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What MPG are you getting from your vehicle?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,281 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Have a 2010 E220 Coupe, on the motorway the other day, she was averaging 5.4l/100km (43mpg), but because I'm rarely on the motorway and it's mostly primary or secondary roads, I average 6.4l/100km (36mpg). The little digital bar that shows real time consumption shooting up to 10+ when I put the foot down does make one reconsider it sometimes! But I love the car, and it's the most economical I can remember having. These yokes are designed for motorways, and I do like to drive at the legal limit. She's also only a 5 forward gear auto, which I thought was a bit strange as the saloon has the 6 forward I believe.



  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    E200 Kompressor- petrol- never got more than 33MPG no matter how carefully I drove it- was getting 20% less throughout lockdown due to the multiple small journeys - while mines the previous model the”re such a comfortable car though and a joy to drive - with no car loan and car in good working order I can justify my low MPG but I can only dream of some of the figures listed on this thread



  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭pafro


    Depending on the weight of my right foot.

    8.5L/100km at 120km/h with cruise control but also, almost 75L fuel tank gone after 23 laps at Mondello.

    Porsche Macan Turbo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    Skoda Superb 2.0 diesel 150hp. 201. 36,000 km up on it now. 4.3 L/100KM average since new. That's about 65mpg. Couldn't fault it. All sorts of driving. Had 1,200 km done on the one tank last Summer, and there was still a range of 100km left.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    My car normally runs about 7l/100km in the city, about 5.6l/100km out on the roads, I do the latter more often



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    You may remember the discussion we had some time back about adding 2T oil to the diesel when refilling. So maybe milers is working on the same principle, keeping all the fuel system clean and free of carbon build up. I used it unreservedly in the 1.9 A6, it did a great job, stopped it having limp mode attacks, but I'm not so sure about using it in the MB 220. We will see. Fuel consumption in the Merc is nothing like as good as it was in the A6......that was some miser on fuel (even though it was sports configuration } Fill to fill averages out at 8.2 Ltrs / 100 Klms. Best case is 7 Ltrs/100, worst was 10 ltrs / 100, ( but that was when using a trailer) I must pull the air cleaner and see what it is like. It was one of these Mercs which has had its ECO's "upgraded" on its last service, and this so called upgrade really reduces performance and invreases fuel consumption.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    It all depends, mine is the 722.9 7speed automatic transmission, and according to the dash fuel consumption figures, it can vary from 1 of 2 Ltrs/100klm, to as you say 20 Ltrs / 100Klms in the blink of an eye......and these are perfectly true figures, for that particular point in time. Its when it gives out its averages, that you can have conflict between fill-to-fill actual figures and the computer generated ones. Mine gives a 7 ltr/100klm, but actual real consumption figure's are much higher. 8.2 to 10 ( and sometimes 11 ) when I use the trailer, and most of my driving is on hilly secondary country roads, which does not help either But now that we are free to roam again, I'll do a proper motorway test on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Just get a additive designed for petrol engines and you're sorted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Filled yesterday, got 5.5l/100 started using the half dose of Millers just to see does it make a difference to consumption, car doesn't feel as smooth...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Those supposed upgrades are a pain especially when they make the car worse.

    The Millers smells very like the model aircraft fuel my father used to mix himself. Amyl nitrate, ether, Castrol R in exact amounts into kerosene, nothing as nice as getting a new engine running and everything behind it destroyed in unburned Castrol R. My poor mother hated the sound of them, no wonder I'm as deaf as a post now!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    I bought a tub of it...... :-) I dont really keep a track of what ltrs per 100km I do apart from the onboard but sure will see if any good



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Amyl Nitrate.....I hope that you did not inhale too much of it???? Model airplane's were not the only things that went to great heights on it. The only additive that I've used so far in the w212 is the old reliable Red X diesel, and so far, I have not noticed anything better or worse, but then again, up to this travel has been restricted. We will see how the consumption goes when I can start seeing 6th and 7th gear appearing on the dash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Obviously not we knew the dangers involved using these chemicals. Tried Redex on various cars over the years and never noticed any difference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,986 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    5.4 litres per 100kms is over 51mpg

    6.4 is about 43mpg



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yours has the 722.6 transmission, which is the 5 speed box. The 722.9 is 7 speed, so it depends on which box was fitted and to which model. There's lots out there who would be of the opinion that the 722.6 box is the better one, but I guess thats relative to personal experience. My 2010 Eclass had the 722.6 5 speed, and I never had a problem with it, but the newer 2014 Eclass has the 722.9 trans with 7 gears. Problem is where fuel consumption is concerned, with the 722.9 trans, where I drive it rarely see's 6th gear,,its predominantly in 5th, which is 2 gears lower than its top, while the 722.6 would cruise happily in 4th on the same roads, just one gear below its top gear. So it was marginally better on fuel. But for good consumption, nothing beats the 2003 Audi A6 1.9 TDI Sports I had before the MB. On exactly the same roads, same driving, it was returning an ave of 5.5 Ltrs / 100 KLms. The MB fill to fill actual consumption over the last 5'000 Klms was 8.2 Lts / 100 Klms.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,484 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Stuck a hybrid turbo and a new map on my 330d... It can go as low as 9mpg or as high as 38mpg depending on my right foot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,411 ✭✭✭ofcork




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,281 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Sweet! Google was auto using US mpg. Why do they have to be so different! Delighted with that now, far more than I thought I was getting! @jmreire sound for the info. There's so many different types and versions, I do find it hard to find info specific to my one. Good to hear I have the possibly better box!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    There's a simple calculation for fuel consumption. And its 100% correct. Fill tank, note the Klms. Drive on until next refill. Check the Nr of KLms driven, then divide that into the Nr of Ltrs filled and multiply the answer by 100. Result will give you the correct Nr of Ltrs per 100 KLm's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,281 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    That wouldn't work for me, I rarely let it go below a quarter, something I was told years ago about the bottom of the tank having particles that settle down there and letting it go nearly empty brings them into the engine or something. Probably not true, but it's how I work!

    I was just too silly to realise I was using 'Merican conversion!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    That will not matter how much fuel is in the tank to do this calculation...its the fuel used is what counts. In my 220, I can expect the low fuel warning icon after I pass the 600 Klm mark ( but its only happened to me once ) Anything between quarter and half full is refill time. On average, I refill after travelling 500 Klms. You do not have to empty the tank, but you have to fill it 100% on both ocassions for the formula to work. I filled mine last week, and have only driven so far, 50 or 60 Klms, and all secondary hilly roads..4th-5th gear mainly, but later this week I will be doing about 200 Klms mainly motorway driving, so after that, I'll fill the tank again, and do the calculation. I'm expecting better than its usual 7-9.5 Ltrs per 100 Klms. So we will see. And as you mention low fuel levels risking bringing "Risky" fuel up through the system,,,( which is true, BTW. Water can condense and sink to the bottom.....which is why the intank filter will only take fuel from about 1/2 " above the bottom of the tank) But even more important in my view is to pick a fuel station, and only buy from there. Stations with a high turnover are your best bet for quality fuel.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,167 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    AFAIK It's not going to be 100% accurate unless the pump you're filling from cuts off at the same point. IIRC, they detect a pressure buildup to trigger cutoff and I suspect they're not all doing it at the same point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 905 ✭✭✭Joe 90


    You can do it over several thankfulls, just keep a record of how much you have put in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Pops_20


    I might have posted here before but the new boards forum software has erased my memory of previous posts 😅

    I've been measuring by brimming the tank for over 4 years so this is pretty accurate.

    Nissan 180sx 1995 - 24 to 27 mpg consistently.

    Nissan Skyline 1992 - 19 to 22 mpg



  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭JCN12


    The 1.4 Petrol Skoda Octavia is doing even better this week. Averaging between 5.4 and 5.5 ltr per 100 km. 😊

    Post edited by JCN12 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    I can't find my previous post in this thread (if I made one?), but I've had a 2012 Prius Plug-in for about five years and overall I'm averaging 3.44 l/100 km or 83 MPG (my own measurements).

    Somewhere around 35-40% of my driving is in EV mode, range on a full charge is about 16 km - it doesn't seem like much now but was typical for first generation PHEVs, and it might have lost a mile or two over the 9 years.

    I use Dipetane most of the time as these cars can suffer from blocked EGR valves/coolers and it should help with that (plan is to inspect/clean around 100k miles, it's at about 82k now), though I haven't really observed any obvious difference in fuel consumption.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    I know this site is dying on its feet but hopefully you'll see my question. Is it ok to use dipetane on a petrol engine? I thought it was for diesel/ kerosene only.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,498 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Definitely fine to use dipetane in a petrol engine.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Thanks for replying, I've just recently bought an IV superb, would it be ok with the VW 1.4 engine, I don't know if it has an egr tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,967 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    Brand new puma 1.0 eco boost mild hybrid doing about 8l/100km which is 35mpg I think city driving



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    wtf

    So you buy a very efficient car, then drive the absolute bollocks out of it to get those figures?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,395 ✭✭✭Dartz


    Between 15 and 11L/100km on average. Maybe 10L/100km if I'm doing a steady 80-100kph.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,994 ✭✭✭ambro25


    Alright, I LOL’d 😂

    Jaguar XE 3.0 V6 supercharged, doing about 8l to 8.5l / 100km on a mixed 220km run (some city, some motorway, lot of A road).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭duffman3833


    for city driving, seems about right for a petrol car. Probably a lot of stop/start traffic which will never give good figures



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    It's a myth they aren't super efficient, I was getting the same from a 1 litre dsg Octavia, it was a thirsty sow, best days work I ever did was getting rid of the fcukur. I hated that car with a passion...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    What about all city? Closer to 11 I'd imagine. 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Still cruising in the rotary I see😎, lovely car in fairness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,994 ✭✭✭ambro25


    9 and crumbs. Cruise @ 50-52 km/h works wonders.

    The real killer is the bit of motorway on my commute, if it’s clear. 2 tunnels, and so I just can’t help myself 😉 An easy 15 there, especially if I play with the paddles.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    If I had a hybrid that did even 30 miles on electric the gallon of petrol in the tank would get be 500 mpg



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    My iV is getting just over 40km from the battery, it costs €1.80 for a 13kw charge. Cheap motoring. Even cheaper when I use the free Lidl charger 👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,935 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Fiesta is averaging about 7.8l/100km, or 36 ish mpg.

    It's not bad, considering I make use of the poke it has a fair bit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,967 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    No that’s literally city driving which is probably average speed of 20kms so constant stop start in traffic, we had a 1.5 diesel focus before that was a tiny bit better on juice but not much. A proper hybrid with 30km battery range would be ideal for us but we couldn’t afford one this time around, hopefully next time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭John.G


    Does it not give something like kwh/100kms or something which is more easily compared with ICEs litres/100kms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    The day to day short spins are reported as between 3.9-5.0Km/Kwh. It was brutal when I got it first it was around 2Km/Kwh, the battery meter was giving a MK2 escort fuel gauge a run for its money😣. I'm still trying to work my way through the maze of menus upon menus I'm sure there's a long term electric/petrol figure in there somewhere, when (if) I find it I'll let you know what it's saying.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭John.G


    km/kwh isn't a bad one, If you feel like comparing it to a ICE engine consumption then the calc (litres/100kms) is 100/kmperkwh/10.25 for diesel comparison and 100/kmperkwh/9.36 for petrol. so assuming your figure above at 4.5km/kwh, this equates to a diesel consumption of 2.168 litres/100km and 2.374 litres/100kms for petrol. (130.3 & 119 MPG respectively). Costing can be ~ done by the kwh method. your cons is 4.5km/kwh or 22.2kwh/100km, say 20C/kwh (or whatever) , cost is €4.44/100kms. A diesel might return 5litres/100kms, if diesel at €1.60/litre then cost is €8/100kms so (max) energy cost of your EV is roughly 56% of a diesel?.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    That's a lorra lorra figures there... Had a gander in the Skoda app, over 1384Km Elec was 5.3Kwh/100km and petrol was 4.5l/100Km, is that good or bad? The diesel it replaced was 5.5l/100 on measured tank fills. My unit rate is 18.00c inc vat, petrol on the last fill was 1.589 per litre. Tis all very confusing tbh..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭John.G


    Presume you mean 5.3km/kwh=18.87kwh/100km, at 13.89c/kwh=€2.62/100kms. petrol 4.5litres/100km and €1.589=€7.15. EV energy cost 36.6% of ICE cost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    No it's definitely 5.3kwh/100km with petrol at 4.5l/100km over 1384km. I edited my post as I checked my latest electricity bill and it's 18c per unit now. Bloody price hikes....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭John.G



    You said above that the distances were 3.9-5.0Km/Kwh which is 25.64 to 28.57kwh/100km. that number of 5.3kwh/100km couldn't be achieved on a electric skateboard, the best EVs consume ~ 13kwh/100km and "average" for all would be ~ 14.5 to 20 kwh/100km.

    So again if you are referring to a EV then  5.3km/kwh=18.87kwh/100km, at 18.00c/kwh=€3.40/100kms



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