Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Which is why we stop calling them certs and start calling them what they are - a licence.

I feel you won't get answer to this and be called a conspiracy theorist.

Even if this happened lots of people who would just double down and call it a choice.

Sadly people have not considered how far they would actually go and are not thinking ahead.

I was called a crazy person for suggesting vaccine passes in 2020 on reddit Ireland so I am too aware of how goal posts can move.

But that is their choice ;)

Honestly it probably wont ever go that far, but we should all do the mental exercise of questioning what we will draw the line at and why.

Fair enough. But assuming you wanted to go to lunch with the girlos lol what would you do?

The vaccine was untested. The exact same reasoning many people nowadays refuse a vaccine.

No the previous poster compared antisemitic propaganda to 'unvaccinated are a source of disease' propaganda - then you complained that unvax'd aren't sent to gas chambers so (in your mind) the point is invalid.

In fact the propaganda and rhetoric has taken on a scapegoating tinge to it but the ordinary Irish person tunes it out and regards it as fake bullshit.

Last winter, if enough had gone along with the scapegoating narrative of some weirdos there could have been violence against people perceived to be breaking restrictions.

Idiots and wastrels including on boards wanted mass arrests, the army rounding people up etc. Thankfully only a handful of wreckers, not the general population, were willing to throw away a century of civil peace like it was rubbish.

Well, we are talking about restrictions here so that was my point that those are the rules.

It's probably down to the data that we have at the moment, scientific studies have shown up to 9 months of immunity from the recovered while no real data exists for that on vaccines

Sometimes I wonder if the vaccines are actually waning or if it's just the weather changing, driving us all indoors and a lack of ventilation arising from that

Yes and I am merely questioning the rules. which to me make no sense in this case.

Yes we have no long term data on natural immunity or vaccine immunity as sarscov2 is new.

What we do know is that people who had SARSCOV1 had some level of immunity 17 years later.

But it doesn't answer why we can be so cock sure of the vaccine immunity and then up an expiry date on the natural immunity?

If the argument is "we dont have enough data" then should the vaccines have a default expiry date as the natural immunity?

Time to stop reading these threads the posting is getting more ridiculous by the hour.

I read your posts a while back before making an account, it did come across as "I see no issues as I hop over the boarder to have a pint"

That was just my take away. From outside looking in a few months ago.

Do you think restrictions should all be removed right now?

Yes I have seen the video where they said we wouldn't be eating meat anymore. Or owning nothing and being happy?

This was in late 2020 I think.

Claire Byrne eating insect burger on live tv recently...makes you wonder if its all just a coincidence.

They do all meet in international leaders conferences with Claus. Who knows..

I'd like to say I'm surprised by the hand-waving of the deaths of a quarter-million children.

Alas.

I certainly will, in a heartbeat.

I would love to say that I am surprised by people posting their own musings and quesswork attempting to sell them as undeniable truth, but alas in your case in particular on Covid and excess deaths that is not even vaguely possible.

Sure, go ahead and correct me, then.

What do you think is the collateral damage of the restrictions we've had?