GAA need to step up

downcow · 13-10-2021 6:00pm #1

I opened a thread recently asking is the GAA in the north sectarian, following an couple of county teams chanting support for the IRA. It was closed after a short time, but I will risk raising this issue again.

here is a photo taken this month inside the grounds of a GAA club. A parade by the republican group who killed Lyra NcKee. The GAA said in advance that it would not happen. So what is going on?

we have a few Protestant individuals in the north taking a big step and starting to play GAA sports. Is it not time the GAA had the balls to move on from this sectarian stuff

maccored · 13-10-2021 6:11pm

Things like this shouldn't be happening.

windy shepard henderson · 13-10-2021 6:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058212992/gaa-need-to-step-up

not condoning it but its not new , it happens in several gaa clubs around the country , but in reality its no worse then what you see from soccer clubs up north in terms of sectarian stuff , the 'national team ' up there is doing a great job to hide it too , its always going to happen when politics and sport are mixed together

downcow · 13-10-2021 6:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118015524#Comment_118015524

That is ridiculous. The ‘national team’ up there is doing nothing like this.

Professor Moriarty · 13-10-2021 6:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058212992/gaa-need-to-step-up

They look like hard men.

topmanamillion · 13-10-2021 6:23pm

The GAA is a nationalist organisation and taps into the gaelic culture to drum up support for its own games.

The positive side of that is bumper attendances at games and participation. The negative is above, every hardline republic para military group will naturally gravitate towards the GAA as a symbol.

To be honest i can see very easily how the above situation would happen. You're talking about what is fundamentally an amateur athletics organisation with ordinary local volunteers. I cant image there were too many of those people volunteering to tell a para military organisation what they can and cant do.

lawrencesummers · 13-10-2021 6:23pm

I wasnt aware a republican group had taken reaponsibility for the murder of Ms.mcKee

corner of hells · 13-10-2021 6:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058212992/gaa-need-to-step-up

Second from right looks about 14 , third and fourth from right look like they're fond of their grub.

downcow · 13-10-2021 6:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118015559#Comment_118015559

Yeah that’s understandable

dudley72 · 13-10-2021 6:33pm

A couple of clowns, in reality they are an embarrassment to the GAA and everyone else in Ireland.

The GAA does need to take a stance against these clowns and kick them the f**k out. Great work has been done not only in the North but all over Ireland to try and integrate people and seeing this rubbish put them back years.

Choochtown · 13-10-2021 6:49pm

A non-story and yet another pathetic attempt by the OP to demonise the GAA.

Let's deal in FACTS.

Here is the actual statement from Bellaghy Wolfe Tones GAC:

"The club would like to clarify that no request was received from or on behalf of any organisation and the club had not granted permission for the use of our premises for any event entitled 'Saoradh National Hunger Strike Commemoration.'

"We further wish to clarify that no event other than those relating to official GAA activity or training will be taking place at club premises at that date."

I don't think there's any ambiguity in that statement whatsoever.

dudley72 · 13-10-2021 6:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118015653#Comment_118015653

Still you see a picture of 4 clowns at the club?

Brucie Bonus · 13-10-2021 6:56pm

I've very little time fir the GAA but they didn't arrange this. They should ensure this doesn't happen though.

Choochtown · 13-10-2021 7:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118015665#Comment_118015665

Yes but the original post is using the picture to accuse the GAA of sectarianism.

The position of the club couldn't be clearer from the statement that they released.

dudley72 · 13-10-2021 7:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118015722#Comment_118015722

It should be a picture of kicking those 4 people out the door.

The statement above reads of covering their ass after the fact. Should be saying they never want those people again and if they can find out who it is they get a lifetime ban

By the way it wouldn’t be hard to work out who the clowns are if you are from the area

Choochtown · 13-10-2021 7:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118015772#Comment_118015772

No asses to cover Dudley.

The march was nothing to do with the GAA and the club in question released a statement saying exactly that.

If we're going to use unwelcome distasteful parades to berate places or organisations where they gather, this will be a long long thread of whataboutery.

The club in question has released an unambiguous statement stating that the gathering happened without their knowledge or permission.

Not good enough for you?? "Kicking those 4 people out the door" You are actually suggesting that a sports club's volunteers should initiate violence with these people??

dudley72 · 13-10-2021 7:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118015837#Comment_118015837

The GAA is a sporting organisation which is pushing for more inclusion across ireland. This carry on should end up with a life time ban for the people. The same as the guy who racial abused Zebo at the Ulster game.

Unless that happens the statement is just arse covering and the same will happen again

Plenty of people get kicked out of GAA match’s, why can’t they kick these out? You realise they don’t have to physically kick them

listermint · 13-10-2021 7:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118015837#Comment_118015837

You're not going to find must respite in addressing this with facts. Dudley and the OP are hoping to up the outrage anti. That's all the thread is about. The GAA now is a crack squad of hardened police activists who should put it up to disguised republicans in their car park ....

Choochtown · 13-10-2021 7:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118015856#Comment_118015856

Are they members of the Bellaghy club?

How can a club ban someone who's not a member?

Did the club get a request to use their car park? No

How can a club throw someone out of their car park when they have no idea that they are there?

It's an amateur sports club.

Choochtown · 13-10-2021 7:47pm

I get the feeling that some people HATE the many GAA cross-community initiatives in the North and would like nothing better than to stir up division and return to the days when Gaelic games were for "them-uns" only.

dudley72 · 13-10-2021 7:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118015923#Comment_118015923

Very easy, they ban them from all games, as far as I’m aware the Ulster fan was not a season ticket holder

Did the fan ask Ulster if he could racial abuse players first?

I don’t get your point, it’s a list of excuses which no one in the real world will buy. It doesn’t matter if it is amateur or not, it’s part of the GAA and the people would be clear to locals, ban them from the ground for life. Job done

maestroamado · 13-10-2021 7:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118015524#Comment_118015524

So you think gaa are political? politics has no role in sport...

maestroamado · 13-10-2021 8:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118015944#Comment_118015944

The famous "ban" was only gaa invention i think....

Choochtown · 13-10-2021 8:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118015969#Comment_118015969

"They ban them"

Who bans who?

I don't know anything about an Ulster fan. What relevance is that?

I don't really understand the point you are trying to make.

You are vexed by a parade so you are blaming a GAA club who are nothing to do with the parade and have released a statement disowning themselves from it.

But that's not good enough for you. Now you want the club to somehow track down these individuals and ban them from GAA games!

The march was NOTHING to do with the GAA

I hear a couple of them bought a cheese roll and a packet of Taytos in the local Spar. Why not find out who they are and ban them from all Spar shops as well?

Choochtown · 13-10-2021 8:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016016#Comment_118016016

What ban?

dudley72 · 13-10-2021 8:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016050#Comment_118016050

The parade happened at the club so it has to do with them. The club is responsible and should be a place that everyone can come to enjoy sport.

The club & the GAA ban these people from the ground and maybe all grounds in Ireland. That gives a sign to anyone that tries to do this again it isn't on. A statement like the above means nothing, the same thing will happen again because if I know anything about clowns like these they will continue to push till someone stops them.

The ulster fan is just an example of a club not allowing fans to carry on without respect for other in its grounds. Do you think shouting racist abuse was anything to do with Ulster? they took a stand and banned the supporter.

The GAA need to take a stand, simple as that.

downcow · 13-10-2021 8:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118015653#Comment_118015653

this statement was in advance and was carefully worded. They knew the group was using their premises and they know that some of those involved are members. They could have been there on the morning and asked them not to use their premises.

tjis is just the most recent of repetitive sectarianism which gets a blind eye turned to it. Whether county teams chanting ira, clubs holding wolf tonne concerts with ira chants or paramilitary colour parties using their premises. I think they will eventually stop this but it shouldn’t take another decade. No other sporting body would torelate it, volunteer or not

maestroamado · 13-10-2021 8:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016095#Comment_118016095

There was a time when gaa players could not play cricket etc...

Choochtown · 13-10-2021 8:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016102#Comment_118016102

Why do you keep mentioning Ulster and racist abuse?

The parade was nothing to do with the club. Absolutely nothing.

A few people used the club car park without permission.

Those are the facts.

Unlike you I welcome the statement from the club.

maestroamado · 13-10-2021 8:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016050#Comment_118016050

So it happened on gaa property and nothing to do with gaa... get real...

downcow · 13-10-2021 8:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016139#Comment_118016139

The club could have stated clearly that the paramilitaries were not welcome to use their facilities, but they clearly didn’t and have not condemned them retrospectively either.

downcow · 13-10-2021 8:33pm

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/crime/gaa-club-pressed-to-give-explanation-about-photos-of-dissident-event-3416749

dudley72 · 13-10-2021 8:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016139#Comment_118016139

Its an example of how an organisation deals with unsavoury fans.

I am not saying the parade did have anything to do with the club. I am saying the club and the GAA need to act and the best method is to ban the people.

The list of excuses so far is long. In the case they made none and just banned the fans

downcow · 13-10-2021 8:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118015562#Comment_118015562

Pay more attention then.

After her death, Saoradh issued a statement saying she had been killed “accidentally”.

downcow · 13-10-2021 8:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016177#Comment_118016177

Not the slightest chance, I reckon. Not even a word of condemnation

FrancieBrady · 13-10-2021 8:38pm

GAA address the issue.., what do the usual suspects do...try to undermine the statement.

It doesn't matter what is said, something to be outraged about has been found and boys just gotta have fun.

downcow · 13-10-2021 8:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016201#Comment_118016201

The GAA just need to condemn it. Are you in the GAA francie? Would you even personally condemn it?

dudley72 · 13-10-2021 8:40pm

Plenty of example, in this situation “fans” in another country got banned becaus of carry on

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-33622106.amp

across all sports this is happening, if the GAA is letting this carry on happen then its lagging behind and should be left behind

I am a GAA fan by the way, all my kids play GAA but if this is a sign of what the future holds then it puts a huge question mark over that

downcow · 13-10-2021 8:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016206#Comment_118016206

Yeah good point.

can you imagine this happening in 2021 in any other sport in any country in the western world. It is astounding, but because it’s the GAA we are not really surprised. That should tell us everything.

Donald Trump · 13-10-2021 8:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016204#Comment_118016204

Downcow, from the posts above it appears that the club have publicly stated that they did not allow this or support this.

I googled the club and they do have a few pitches and a clubhouse. Their main playing grounds are actually called after an ex-chairman father of 6 who was abducted and murdered by the LVF while locking up the gates less than 25 years ago. Perhaps the club felt they no longer needed to lock the gates given the peace process and the fact that the loyalist paramilitaries very kindly took a break from murdering its members. The fact that some gimps dressed up in fancy dress might trespass for a few photos probably never came to their minds.

Do you have the same indignation when playing pitches are invaded for weeks coming up to July by fellas gathering and stacking up pallets on which to burn hateful effigies and symbols? You know like, not a quick instance that would be easy to run in, take a photo, and leave. But an obvious and massive eyesore that is built up slowly over weeks. Will you be back on here next June and July expressing that indignation and calling out the clubs that use those pitches in the run up to the 12th?

buried · 13-10-2021 8:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016102#Comment_118016102

There's a GAA club down the road from me here that I'm not a member of. I could go down there right now tonight to their car park and sacrifice an auld live chicken to Satan, film it and upload it to Instagram or some other mess. Does that stupid act, taken by me, does that now mean that particular GAA club, down the road from me, now condones Satanic chicken sacrifice?

downcow · 13-10-2021 8:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016277#Comment_118016277

This demonstrates the problem the GAA have. They are still at square one.

In the example posted, Chelsea could have said that this happened on the tube and they had no control over it.

buried · 13-10-2021 9:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016298#Comment_118016298

Square one on what? Do they need 24 hour gaurds outside their car parks now or what do you mean?

downcow · 13-10-2021 9:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016277#Comment_118016277

They hardly sneaked down at night with a chicken

downcow · 13-10-2021 9:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016310#Comment_118016310

No it is simple. They condemn the action and ban members involved. Simple

FrancieBrady · 13-10-2021 9:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016204#Comment_118016204

The suprematist coming out again: 'Do what I say!'.

😁

Gas man.

I am a GAA member as it happens as are all my family. You could hold a 3 day festival in our grounds and not a one might notice if it was during the week. Unlawful trespass is dealt with by the Gardai, not the volunteer members.

I condemn all paramilitary and triumphalist displays where they are not wanted (and this club didn't want it) whosoever takes part in them. Do you?

Donald Trump · 13-10-2021 9:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016298#Comment_118016298

You are free to provide evidence of the identities of the people in the photos and evidence of their GAA membership so that the organisation can act

The GAA might be able to sanction it's own membership insofar as it pertains to their membership of the organisation. But it can't go around dispensing summary justice, up to and including executing random people, up North. I think you might be mixing them up with the British State.

buried · 13-10-2021 9:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016314#Comment_118016314

But sure only the utter fools that follow that mess would know it was going on. How is a GAA club going to know what's going to happen with anything that isn't to do with their sport. As I've said, I could also post some dodgy advertisement picture of my Satanic chicken sacrifice online. Is anybody in the club going to see it? Are they f**k

buried · 13-10-2021 9:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016321#Comment_118016321

They did condemn the action. And I'd wager you 5000 euros that the tubby ladeens in the picture wouldn't be members of any athletics club so unless you have proof that they are, your little anti GAA outburst is fairly redundant.

dudley72 · 13-10-2021 9:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016277#Comment_118016277

If you put a picture of yourself doing it then I would expect the club to ban you for life.

If you hide and didn't show your face then unless someone could prove it was you then no ban

In the picture above, locals would have no issue making out the 4, ban them

buried · 13-10-2021 9:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016359#Comment_118016359

How do you have any clue that they are members? Like I said, I'm not a member of the club up the road from me, nothing stopping me making a show of myself up there in the car park, but how is that the GAA's problem?

GAA need to step up

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