The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

What do the pats have to do with this?

Also you've just told.so.o e there full of crap and in your next post asked someone else to explain instead of going off on one

Foxtrol did a very good job of explaining his logical, fact based position in quite a lot of detail. To accuse him of being "pure crap, full of hate driven agendas" just because you don't like it is pretty childish eagle eye. If you disagree with his points maybe write a detailed response explaining why, instead of throwing a tantrum?

I think at this stage pretty much everyone can see the Tebow signing was an unmitigated disaster. And everything else about Meyer to date isn't far off. I'd be surprised if he lasts beyond March 2022, but if he does its just going to delay the Jags rebuild.

Poor Trevor Lawrence - to go from never having lost a game in high school and college to landing in the mess that the Jags are must be some adjustment.

If you read the post you'll note that I don't rate Meyer personally.

If you read what he said, it's full of agenda drive hate for Tebow and Meyer.

A. Tebow did nothing wrong.

B. He got cut so it didn't hurt anybody.

Like the nfl equivalent of everyone I disagree with is a nazi

Definitely hilarious but also somewhat concerning and sad how warped and paranoid people can get to believe everyone has an agenda against them or their team. I obviously knew the tinfoil hat 'Patriot's hater' was a funny little narrative that was swirling around in that poster's and a few other's heads (as they voiced it often) but I always tried to believe that they discussed in good faith - that was until this last week when the mask slipped twice and this poster openly admitted to the opposite.

Apologies to the board for not realizing this sooner and letting some threads descend into messes. It should have been something I did a long time ago but putting that poster on ignore now and this won't be an issue in the future.

So he says some good things but your dismissing them as a facade because he also says bad things about a team. Imagine not agreeing with everything a team does

He's in a spot of bother now.

"Gruden called the league’s commissioner, Roger Goodell, a “****” and a “clueless anti football pussy” and said that Goodell should not have pressured Jeff Fisher, then the coach of the Rams, to draft “queers,” a reference to Michael Sam, a gay player chosen by the team in 2014."

The New York Times on Twitter: "Breaking News: The NFL coach Jon Gruden used misogynistic and homophobic language for years, a review of his emails shows. He denounced the emergence of women referees, the drafting of a gay player and the tolerance of protests during the national anthem. https://t.co/F3QpqV9yZS" / Twitter

Oof. In fairness, who hasn't looked at Goodell and thought, what a ****. The biggest ****in football.

Willing to bet calling that **** a **** is what really landed him in the ****.

Adam Scheffter going in hard on him at half time in MNF. Feel for Carl Nassib the last few days, it's no wonder that there's athletes afraid to come out when you've cavemen like Gruden in charge.

Sorry, what?! The majority of NFL fans think that Goodell is a "f*ggot"? Well then, they are equally awful people. As for those who backed him, the majority would have done so without knowing the full extent of the situation. I expect plenty will row back on that now.

It doesn't matter if the emails were private or not, he's the figurehead for a sports organisation in a league that as recently as a few months ago announced its support for the LGBTQ+ community. There is no way they can allow this sort of thing to fly, the emails were over a 7 year period and as recently as 2018 btw.

I'll give Gruden some credit, he managed to be very inclusive by targeting gay people, women, black people and protesters. No stone left unturned, good riddance.

I agree with you on one thing - it's sad, sad times. Sad, sad times, when there are still bigots in positions of power.

I also heard them talk about him and you can be one thing to some people and another to many others. Gruden's actions are indefensible.

He resigned and it was accepted by Mark Davis, he hasn't been sacked here. Clearly knew his position was untenable for what he's done.

Why the attempted separation? Is the written word between friends/colleagues not real life?

Again, this does not happen so quickly for an innocent man so I'm not sure why you're trying to defend him here.

I asked you to name anybody who came out and said they were treated that way by Jon Gruden. Have you any names?