Heavyweight Boxing

I think the doctor was checking the hand more than anything. Wilder grabbed it mid round.

As others said Wilder tactics left after 3 rounds, from there and as soon as he got the knock down there was no listening as his ego took over and he thought he had it in the bag.

In saying that for the second knock down the refs counting seemed weird, andre Ward picked up on it aswell ( i havent watched the fight back) but he counted to 5, then told wilder to get back in the corner ( for what seemed at least 2 seconds, maybe 3) he then went back to fury at 6.... I could be wrong but I picked up on it before ward even said it.

Hat tip to Sugarhill he really has given Fury a killer instinct he didnt really have, Fury was jabbing Wilder all night and could have seen out the fight but Sugarhill ( possibly still weiry of the big right) told Tyson to get him out of there which he obliged.

For me that is Fury done till end of summer, both men need a log break, through the Joshua on/off again crap to this fight getting cancelled Tyson in his words has only been home 2 weeks in 6 months.

He will get through Dillion and hopefully Usyk then that will be him done.

I'v never seen anyone take such huge shots & once they get back on there feet its like the punch never happened, Just so calm fighting really is in his blood,

One thing he needs to be careful because no human can keep taking shots like that, he needs good rest & make sure he isn't getting caught flush in his next fight, Only so many times you can take them without your chin & resolve disappearing ,

I'd love to see Wilder v AJ but i don't think AJ would ever take that fight,

Wilder was beaten before he entered the ring.

He was still dangerous, but itnwas as clear as day on his face entering the ring he was done

AJ isnt done in my opinion, yes they made a bad choice trying to outbox usyk but someone in the the camp must have thought they could succeed.

Rob mcracken was missing with the olympics for most of the camp, maybe the camp needs a shuffle or total change but i wouldnt be surprised if aj came back to claim the win in a rematch using rough fighting tactics.

btw i am not a fan boy, i cant stand the bloke

People are rightly saying the best way for AJ to beat Usyk is to be more aggressive but doesn't AJ have the gas thank & probably more of the problem does he have the balls to get hit himself to land big shots I don't think he has

People say Ruiz changed him but maybe it was Wlad who started it & Ruiz just rubber stamped it , He just doesn't take shots well anymore at all,

The world titles (WBA, WBO, WBC and IBF) will soon be splintered again. No doubt each of the sanctioning bodies will be hounding Usyk in particular to fulfill his mandatories after he beats Joshua again, and this is a hard thing to do when you are not a huge name (he is a big name but not big enough, see what happened Fury after the Wlad win, IBF stripped him pretty much immediately for not fulfilling his mandatory, even though Wlad had a rematch clause). Its a joke really, there will never be an undisputed HW champ on paper holding every title, Usyk beating Joshua has put paid to that.

Sanctioning bodies are very selective about whom they give an easy ride to. Some fighters holding their titles will be allowed avoid mandatories, but others are given no option but to defend and vacate. Rematches don't even come into equation (i.e let me fulfill my rematch and i'll see to mandatory defence after, this isn't even enough).

Dillian Whyte must be WBC number 1 contender for the last 3 or 4 years no? I'm sure the Povetkin loss knocked him down.

As it stands Usyk holding WBA, WBO and IBF titles has the following guys in mandatory positions:

WBA: Regular champ is Trevor Bryan

IBF: Charles Martin

WBO: Joe Joyce

The WBA are probably going to insist on Usyk fighting Bryan, no US HW champ now so they will want a title back in the states and maybe doesn't have the clout Joshua and Eddie Hearn had, in terms of getting guys to step aside. Usyk will have to pay the likes of Bryan to wait his turn and may simply vacate instead.

Fury as WBC title holder has:

WBC: Dillian Whyte

Likewise, Fury may have no interest in fighting Whyte just in order to hold onto his WBC title, he may vacate, claim he is the man, his ring magazine belt is enough for him, take a warm up fight and wait for Usyk or Joshua as the big money fight in UK. WBC have already ruled that Fury has to fight either Usyk or winner of Whyte V Wallin next. So, as AJ has his rematch, this will have to be Whyte or Wallin.

Chance of ever getting the one guy holding every belt is very slim IMO.

I think if Usyk beats AJ & Fury beats Whyte we will see an undisputed fight ,

I reckon Fury wins and walks away ,

I'd have to agree with that, went on at least a couple of rounds too long for me.

If Fury vacates why would he get the AJ v Usyk winner ? He wouldn't have the WBC belt or be a mandatory ,

Whyte would want be getting the shot because the winner of Aj v Usyk would want the WBC title & see Whyte are the easier fight for the bigger prize,

Fury will fight Whyte (if he beats Wallin)

It will surely come down to money. Fury v AJ/Usyk is worth alot more money.

Not sure Dillian Whyte v Usyk for all the marbles is a money spinner.

All this is mute, as Whyte has to navigate his way past Wallin first. Which seems like a strange matchup given Wallin is not even a top 15 guy with WBC, so its obviously a voluntary defence of Whytes interim WBC title.

Point i'm making is I don't see Fury bending to any pressure that he has to fight Wallin/Whyte. I'd say he is the type of lad who would bin his belt rather than take a fight against one of those guys, he is pretty much the lineal world champion so a fight against Usyk/AJ wouldn't be far from his grasp.

Point is he was being seriously damaged, should have been stopped earlier.

Fury looked out if it both times.

I'm not saying the fight should have been stopped, I'm saying that if a guy believes it should have been stopped in 7 then the same applies in round 4.

Fury got up and was sound on his feet, you must have been watching a different fight.