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Clerical Officer 2020

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  • Registered Users Posts: 28 QuestionTime18


    Hey, does anybody know what batch and oom they on for Dublin after interviews?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,116 ✭✭✭job seeker


    That's so strange! In previous years it was never a 1-year competition as far as I know..



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 gooseyloosey


    That's great news. Well done! I was placed in top 10 in Batch 8. Not sure how many are in each batch for Offaly. Good luck with been placed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭shmeee


    Yes, they count towards your increment scale. And taking time off before starting as a CO will not affect this.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16 Lightfareye


    Hi folks,

    It's my first time to post here, the group is supper helpful.


    I received an email requesting, "We require the preceding 12 months of your career history to be covered, so from September 2020 to September 2021. If you have been unemployed or if there are any gaps in your employment in the last year, we will require evidence from the Office of the Revenue Commissioners or Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection."

    How do I get the Office of the Revenue Commissioners evidence? Can I do it myself online and how?


    Thanks



  • Registered Users Posts: 354 ✭✭Wonderstruck


    Were you signing on (e.g. getting Jobseeker's Allowance / Jobseeker's Benefit / PUP)? Get something form Social Welfare on headed paper to that effect. Just ring or email whoever you dealt with during that time, I'm sure they assist you, this is a very common query they get. I presume they have Revenue as an option as if you were working, even very causally, you could show them your P21 as proof.

    If you weren't, get a letter from them that you were not entitled to sign on (e.g. because you didn't have the prsi stamps or you're married to someone with income too high etc). What were you doing at the time?

    If you have NOTHING but you were in the country (you weren't on PUP, you were living off savings and have no record whatsoever of what you were doing) get someone semi-official like a doctor / garda to state they know you personally and what you were doing during that time. And maybe get it sworn by a peace commissioner too and chance your arm with that.

    Make sure it explains //every day required// so ask whoever is writing it for you to specifically say this document is for the period 01/09/2021 - 23/09/2021.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16 Lightfareye


    @Wonderstruck Thank you for the advice. I have just called the DSP and the lady said they can't help me as I just started to sign with them since last week.

    For the past year I was on Traineeship and paid by ETB the amount I was supposed be getting from DSP. So I wasn't on the DSP files. The lady asked to try with the Rent Unit as I was on rent allowance.



  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭EO2019


    Get a letter from the ETB to say you were on a full time training course.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16 Lightfareye


    @EO2019 Yeah that's what I thought of as well, but I managed to print a statement of my payments from the My Welfare website. I hope it will do the work.



  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Sweetiesloth


    this panel was for only 12 months as stated in the booklet but it has been extended until when, no one knows??



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  • Registered Users Posts: 16 Lightfareye


    For CO 2020, do we get  assigned to a position or we are offered a position?

    Can someone help me to understand?



  • Registered Users Posts: 103 ✭✭LittleBoBeep


    once they reach your oom after interview you get an email saying you are under consideration for a position and you’ve to fill in some forms, provide a contact for a reference from your current employer and start Garda vetting. Once all are completed you then get assigned a position.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16 Lightfareye


    Okay, I see. So I should wait for the notification. Is it acceptable to not take the assigned position and wait for another one or it takes you out of the competition?



  • Registered Users Posts: 103 ✭✭LittleBoBeep


    As far as I’m aware of you reject a position it removes you from the campaign completely. There might be a way around it if the distance is over 45km but even then I’m not sure.


    I’ve found the staff in PAS to be lovely so you could always ask the person assigned to carry out your pre clearance checks when the time comes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16 Lightfareye


    Thank you. That's very helpful information. I will check with the PAS.



  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Sweetiesloth


    just pop in to your social welfare office any they will provide you will a letter to say you were out of work whatever period of time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 35 Shar!


    Hi im hoping somebody can help, My OH received news today hes completed stage 2 of CO and will wait to hear from revenue regarding next part of application. I would presume it is Vetting, medical etc. Did anybody need to provide proof of leaving cert? This was done over 25 years ago, and has been in employment since.

    Looking for a change of scenery now as the age is creeping up.

    Thanks in advance, He is 37 in order of merit batch 7.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16 Polly50


    I listed my LC results on the form but they didn't ask me for proof, I just remembered them! Has he been offered Customs?



  • Registered Users Posts: 931 ✭✭✭furrybones


    I don't imagine they would be asking for them at this late point if they were relevant to his application.

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts"



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  • Registered Users Posts: 35 Shar!


    Hiya thanks, he listed what he can remember of his results, He did the EOI for customs so hoping he gets it as it would really suit his personality. He is quite fit and needs to be kept very busy or will be bored so this is 100% right move for him. The next part is to wait for revenue to be in touch.

    I have no patience but so excited for him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Vologda69


    I was offered customs previously. Turned it down at the time and regretted it big time. Bored senseless in the current role....so hoping mobility will be my escape route



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭Caoimhe2


    Hi I have searched everywhere is there an threads for HSE panels for 2021 pls



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 borntobewild


    Did you hear anything since? I heard they are on batch 8 but don’t know how far down.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 borntobewild


    Did you hear anything since? I heard they are on batch 8 but don’t know how far down.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 gooseyloosey


    Got news last week. Just waiting on Garda vetting and references now. Hope it goes well for you.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 16 Polly50


    Anyone having trouble tracking their Garda Vetting? Everytime I input my information and click "submit", I get a message saying "Server Error on '/' application?



  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭DarkJ


    I got that when I entered my COCO2020 ID instead of the vetting ID. Could that be your issue?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Lou147


    was anyone assigned to AGS and if yes how long did the security clearance take?



  • Registered Users Posts: 354 ✭✭Wonderstruck


    A few years ago it took literal months, might be quicker now. If you're in Dublin you could chance emailing them and ask for somewhere else worked for someone I knew - she was born abroad so it would have taken a very long time for her vetting to come back and someone else ahead of her had just pulled out of a role for a dept with normal level vetting so they were more than happy to accommodate. If you have a close relative who is a criminal / undergoing a criminal investigation I would just ask now not to go to AGS as you'll have to wait until vetting is done and you won't be going there anyways so waste of your time.

    If you've only ever lived in Ireland / don't know any criminals it should be quicker though. If you've ever lived abroad prepare to be waiting a while!!!

    TBH I'd do anything to get out of an AGS placement if you have plans for mobility or interd promotion...

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/union-opposes-moves-to-conscript-civilian-staff-into-garda-1.4579496



  • Registered Users Posts: 28 QuestionTime18


    Does anyone know how long vetting takes?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 931 ✭✭✭furrybones


    It depends on where you are being placed. Mine took approximately 18hrs. For AGS it can take a long time as there is an extra layer of vetting.

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts"



  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Saulgudman


    That was very fast.

    Anyone know is it actually possible to turn down/defer a position based on distance from home and wait for another position? Or is this just an urban legend?



  • Registered Users Posts: 28 QuestionTime18


    Thank you, I’ve no idea where I’ll be placed all I know is that I was told it would take a couple of weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,921 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly




  • Registered Users Posts: 931 ✭✭✭furrybones


    You can turn it down without losing your place on the panel if the placement exceeds 45km from your home.

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts"



  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭Nicbuc


    Was vetted for a TCO role in AGS, took 7 days for vetting to complete and then 3 weeks again until I heard from AGS HR. Was told vetting can take up to 12 weeks. Depends on the person and they’re addresses etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Saulgudman


    Thanks . I was searching for this info online and couldnt find anywhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭Calmcookie84


    Hello all, would anyone have an update on the Cork panel, please?

    TIA



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Rally109


    Guys I really need some guidance as I’m very annoyed and upset right now. Sorry for the long comment but if anyone can help I’d appreciate..So I got a job offer a few weeks ago via the Irish language stream.  I was assigned to a certain dept in Dublin, which is the county that I applied to. On my first day (working remotely) I was told that everyone in my office is from Galway and that their office is based in Galway and that I’m one of the only people from Dublin working in this section. I’m being told by my manager that she doesn’t know what’s going to happen to me once we’re all back in the office, but that she assumes I’ll be working remotely from a random office in Dublin when things go back to normal.

    Am I in the Right to be pissed off about this? I would never have accepted the job if I’d known that even though I stated DUBLIN, I’d be put in a section that’s based in a completely different county and that all my coworkers would be outside Dublin. 

    I want to be able to work in an office with my coworkers physically there, have lunch with them, get to know them and stuff but I won’t be able to do any of that if they’re all based in the office across the country. Is there any way I can get a transfer or even internal transfer to a section that’s actually based in Dublin? I know about the mobility scheme but I have to be working there two years for that and I’m only there a week! I’ve been really stressing about this because I had such high expectations for working in the civil service but this has been a really bad start. I feel really cheated to be honest and that my contract has been very misleading.



  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Moomooland


    Hi Rally. I’d email the HR department of whatever part of the civil service you’re based in and ask them if there was a mix up or something and that you had stated Dublin on your application. Mobility is a pain in the backside having to wait the two years.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Rally109


    Hi, thanks for the response. I don’t think it’s a mistake, I think their plan is to keep me remote in Dublin which I feel like is very unfair and misleading. I was going to email HR but I ended up emailing PAS this morning explaining situation because they’re the ones who assigned me to this role, so I figured it might be better. My guess is they needed Irish speakers and they had no one in Galway so they had to go with me, but if they don’t have enough Irish speaking candidates in Galway that shouldn’t be my problem. My heads a mess I’ve been waiting for this job for a year and a half and it’s been such a let down!



  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Moomooland


    You’re welcome. Ah I see, I’ve always had HR of different departments call me when I was working as Temporary Clerical Officer to offer me a placement. Working remotely is not fun and it’s not for everyone, sometimes it’s nice to have camaraderie of colleagues to have a natter and a cup of tea with. They are being very sketchy with the details though, is this what I have to look forward to if I get offered a permanent post 😟😟



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Happygal12


    Does anyone know what number they are upto for Louth?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 AaronJ1


    Hi folks,


    I am in a predicament, if possible some help would be great .


    Just been giving my start date for Customs Dublin, which is great however it would mean travelling daily. I understand that 2years in the position a transfer can be made.

    My question is if I reject the offer how would I try get a job in the same field closer to home ?

    many thanks



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 XU1212


    is it airport or the airport ? when is the start date?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Skippette


    I have heard recently that CO's were hired in Dublin for different areas ie Galway. They will not be hiring just 1 Irish speaker, it will more than likely be 3 of ye. I have also heard of another section that have hired remote Irish speakers, so there is a chance that ye all will be based in a remote hub as such. I would be thinking possibly 6 between the 2 teams.

    The dreams of everyone working together like pre covid is a long way off. I honestly can't see a full return to the office anywhere in the near future. So while it's not ideal it's still a good opportunity.

    Another way to look at it is, if you were not on the Irish panel and were on the general stream, would you be in this position? Would you have progressed so quickly? (I can't answer that, only you can) Would you be working remotely? ( More than likely in the short term at least) Would you be working for an office in the West (probably not)

    Go and give it a chance, but go in with a positive attitude. I'm sure your new colleagues aren't exactly thrilled with the situation either but you have to make the best of it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭kittyc2018



    When you say the same field, do you mean Customs or the Civil Service in general?

    Did you accept the Customs position knowing you would have to travel? I think if the distance is greater than 45km from your home you can turn it down and remain on the panel.

    You must do 2 years in Customs before you can apply for a transfer, however expressions of interest for other divisions/areas do come up from time to time as well.

    Drop me a pm if you have anymore specific questions



  • Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭daffodill50


    Can Permanent CO's apply for the next Clerical Officer Panel as a means of possibly by-passing the 2yr mobility wait for transfer?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Rally109


    I wanted to know this too! I only started but I already want a transfer out of my section



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Rally109


    You’ve made very good points. I just feel like there was no transparency with what was happening with me in the hiring process. I was never informed once that I’d be remotely working for an office in another part of Ireland, I was told I’d be in an office in Dublin. Feel like I was lied to . I’m honestly thinking of starting a job somewhere else and just applying for the next competition without putting the Irish preference in because I honestly don’t think it’s worth it now and I’m finding it hard to stay positive when I’m just annoyed with the whole situation. Do you think that would look bad on my next CO application though ? (Leaving current CO role after only 2 weeks)



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