Civil Servant Covid Recognition

I cant believe you have to explain this.

Either some people live in a bubble or are just idiots. Surely everyone knows at least one Healthcare employee and knows the **** they put up with this last 18 months.

You are missing the point, this started as recognition for hospital workers who are state employed, now the government is going to extend it to the private sector. Not every business is struggling, but the last thing needed is for them to be closed another day, or have to pay staff extra to work.

Once a bonus was suggested for one group then every other group was going to go looking for their cut. The government are probably in a no win situation with this. A BH means every worker gets something. Realistically not everyone in health service needs a reward as they aren’t all on the frontline. It gets very messy deciding who deserves it and who doesn’t.

My point was that a BH is hardly going to ruin the country when the rest of private sector in EU can manage just fine. There appears to be many businesses close to the brink and they will go under BH or no BH. Bank Holidays are associated with increased spending.

Did EU countries have the restrictions we had, for as long as we had?

I really don’t see the relevance of comparing other countries and saying if they can afford it, we should, they are not this country. Also, unlike yourself, I think those businesses on the brink and the people working for them should be helped, not given up on.

It is also worth mentioning that a lot of the larger retailers like Aldi, Tesco and Dunnes paid a 10% bonus to staff. What frontline health care workers are looking for is nothing like that scale.

You've already been told more than once that your "point" is totally wrong, so you no longer have the excuse of ignorance to rely on for posting shíte...

I knew this would happen! I wouldnt support teachers on this at all - the level of work that my childrens teachers put in during the lockdowns was a few hours a week ( way less than their normal working week ) - very little interaction just sent a list of work for parents to do with the kids. We as parents became the kids teachers.

Same, half an hour zoom call a week and a few exercises from Twinkl sent on. I mean I don't expect a lot from them as you can't really teach a 6 and 8 year old remotely in my opinion, but they were already well compensated in extra time off over the last year and a half.

This was about civil servants in particular as opposed to public servants? Or perhaps OP didn't know the difference. The two offices of the civil service that stayed open and provided extra service were probably revenue and welfare. But not all of their employees would have been working on covid payments and schemes, so those that didn't should be excluded from any bonus. In fact I'd say a lot of them sat on their arses. They each employ about 7,000 people so no way they all worked on covid relief. However, those who did push through those new schemes so swiftly deserve something.

But what did the department of public reform do, or opw, or foreign affairs, or enterprise and employment, or tourism, or agriculture...etc etc. Most of them should have been on the pup in reality but now a bonus? FFS. No.

As for the wider public service? Teachers? Nope, I did their work for a few months as well as my own and even got snippy replies from one saying not to email him after 2.45pm, being his regular finish up time.... unreal sheltered attitude.

All guards and nurses? Nope. Some, for sure. Prison officers, yes. Local authorities? Lol.... some of these were probably transferred to do contact tracing etc cos the day job ceased to be, so no extra payment deserved there. Defence forces, no.

Irish water... Jesus there are people literally doing nothing there and pulling a wage... still.

Populist shite this idea, backed up by sickening unions... my corner shop minimum wage employees were my heroes. Feck the civil and public service slackers leeching off the few in there who did work harder.

There are approximately 330,000 civil and public service employees (30k civil and 300k public). How many did essential work? 10% max would be my guess, yet they all want a slice? Jesus wept.

Do you not know that what private hospitals was used for or not in the first wave was down to HSE Management, not nursing or other healthcare workers?!

Also if you are going to start a thread it might help to do a bit of research so that you understand what you are ranting about!... Nurses and Gardaí are not CIVIL servants, they are PUBLIC servants.

Very surprised at your claim to work in a hospital given this level of ignorance?

That's not the point....

Again, not the point!

Any body claiming to work in a hospital should know the difference and would not be making or supporting some of the ignorant comments that have been made here.

Blaming hospital staff for the cock up over private hospitals is another obvious clanger.

I don't believe the poster is genuine.

Claiming the hospitals ' were never so quiet', is another load of..... Usually claimed by rabid anti maskers/ Covid deniers.

It was all a myth was it?

Most of us who worked our asses off through this know what we did and how bad it was, unless you were in a private hospital somewhere or some local hospital down the country that didn't see too much Covid.

But even they were few and far between from January this year on.

Thankfully it is not a decision for a few online posters but one that wil or not be made by the government, based on a little more data than tiktok videos or social media, as some here appear to base their viewpoint.

Gosh you are really disingenuous.

Why do you think that trolleys weren't packed in Jan 2021?

And mismanagement of Health Service would be down to HSE , not nurses or doctors or healthcare workers . I consider HSE managers as non healthcare workers by the way . Also it is down to them and the government along with those managing health services all over the world to sort waiting lists , way above my pay grade !

And you claim to be working in a hospital ? I really don't believe anybody could work in a hospital and know so little , unless you have just started and somehow been wfh all through this ?

As you said , quite rudely , to a genuine poster .." put up your payslip !"

Of course I have no interest in who you are , really , so that is rhetorical ...