Unless the reason for the war in Iraq was in order to kill off US citizens it is irrelevant to the discussion.
Don't dodge what we're talking about.
Everyone (should know) that countries act in self-interest.
Probably the most stupid post in the thread.
Outright lies at this stage.
You are still dodging my questions.
You may disagree with what I've said in this thread, but pretending I've dodged questions is a load of curried bollocks.
No. It's been explained to you many times.
You don't accept those explanations. That's fine.
Explain to us why this happened in your conspiracy theory.
Why do you believe the BBC said the building collapsed early?
I don't think you can answer this as there's no plausible reason to do this, so you will ignore the question.
I protested the Iraq war. Is there any conspiracy theory you are discussing or are you just here to selectively rant about one country's history and your personal political views of it?
You have dodged questions man. It's been shown. You've been called out on it several times.
You demanded that the questions be presented to you in a numbered list. I provided this to you. You ignored most of the questions and incorrectly answered the ones you acknowledged.
It's there in the thread for all to read.
You are very dishonest and bordering on delusional.
And don't forget argue against a strawman position that no one holds.
there's a great stargate SG1 episode which uses this idea; a hokey sci-fi series appears on TV clearly based on the stargate program and the 'real' stargate people leave it alone because it will make denial easier.
Given that you are the authority on stupidity, that's quite the compliment.
So having amazed us all with your 12 year old's understanding of geopolitics, are you going to address the questions put to you? You come across as a walking advert for the Dunning Kruger effect.
Boards.ie is crying out for a debate.
Debate what man?
A position you admit no one holds?
Why would any debate that?
If you're available, go back and address the questions you're running away from:
You said you were going answer them. Why didn't you answer them? Why did you lie and claim you answered them?
You're talking out of your hoop, here, pal.
You were asked a number of questions and ignored people. when this was pointed out, you asked for them to be re-submitted, in bullets/number formatting.
This was done, and the poster kindly listed their four questions, plus another 3 that were outstanding.
You answered 3 out of the 7, if I remember correctly, so fewer than 50% of the potential pool of questions.
You cannot seriously stand over that strike rate and claim that you're not dodging them.
KM already said this, so apologies.
Not even as two of the responses he gave weren't actually answers to the questions he was asked.
And the remaining one was an answer that he was repeatedly shown to be factually wrong about.
Complete dodging as I knew he would. He'll dodge them again now and pretend he wasn't called out.
I have answered every single question of me.
You may think I'm talking bollocks, but don't pretend I'm dodging questions.
I ask again, if you think I'm dodging questions, ask me the question, in the Queen's English. I'm here and ready to answer it.
Here is the questions you were asked, and your answers. I make that questions 3 and 4 outstanding from the first set (4 you didn't answer, you just doubled down on the lies) , and 2 and 3 from the second set.
They'll still accused you of not answering it..
It's almost a tactic..
Did you ever think it would get to the stage where you were supporting Nazis?..
Why would you so obviously lie. The post directly above yours shows one post with a list of questions, followed by another one with 2 out of the 7 questions answered.
Is it just a habit of conspiracy theorists to ignore and misunderstand the evidence when presented directly in front of you and claim something entirely different?
In fairness, every thread in this forum is the same few posters hurling questions at anyone foolish enough to come here until they leave, when they then have a circlejerk laugh at said poster until they get bored..
Ignoring any answers and accusations of lying are constant..
I honestly wonder about the mental health of people who take arguing about conspiracy theories on the Internet so seriously..
Accusations of lying because people will make false claims and refuse to answer any questions on said claims.
You think you're the first to come in and make this same idiotic statement? What is it about conspiracy theorists that they have to lie and can't back up thier claims?
That dingbat came in, started insulting people, tried to amaze us with his sophmoric knowledge of world affairs, and refused to address incredibly basic questions time and time again.
If you have fringe beliefs, that's fine - but don't get upset when other people ask you to justify them. If you can't defend your beliefs on matters of fact, then it probably makes sense to concede that they are actually an unfalsifiable religion.
You're right. Any opinion or viewpoint they don't like or agree with is a lie. "Masks will be required indefinitely on public transport, in retail and in healthcare settings", which is true, is somehow a lie. And lately I've noticed people saying "apart from masks and social distancing, it was all very normal".
And even when put on ignore they continue to reply to your posts. Unfortunately you get notifications saying they've replied. Don't have to be a rocket scientist to know whom I'm talking about. I expect a reply in 5, 4 ...
I think it's more the tone the poster is referring to. The constant "you're lying", "loons" etc. But this is a problem in every English-speaking country in the world, and it getting worse, unfortunately. Neil Oliver says that in the US, for example, people are no longer opponents, but are now enemies.
Go to any forum and post BS, you'll be kicked/banned in seconds.
Yet that's all that happens here. 13 years of it. Leeway is given because it's a "conspiracy theory" forum, but that doesn't negate that fact that it's 99.999% BS. (If anyone disagrees, feel free to show us poster's conspiracies or conspiracy predictions that turned out to be completely true)
I would argue that brianhere was spot on when he spoke about formerly free countries becoming extremely authoritarian. Look at Australia, France, Germany, to name but a few.
But you're missing my point. I'm arguing about the tone being toxic. Why not just debate things civilly? PintofView does, for example. It makes for better debate and discussion.
That's an interesting observation. I'm a John Oliver fan too. But - and I think Mr. Oliver would agree with me here - we are in real trouble if we aren't operating from a position of accepting that there is an objective reality out there. I can explain all day why the 9/11 conspiracy was a bunch of Al Qaeda terrorists flying planes into buildings. It's actually pretty straightforward because a) it makes logical sense, b) it matches with the physical evidence and c) it doesn't rely on any outrageous leaps of logic that defy common sense. I'm very happy to argue that case. But what you tend to find is that the folks arguing for the outlandish mega-conspiracies get very frustrated and react very angrily when you point out the big holes in their arguments. I can't speak to why that is - I'm not a psychologist or psychiatrist. It's just something that I've noticed.
I have several French friends and French colleagues, I was staying there just a few weeks ago, there's nothing "extremely authoritarian" about it, jesus christ. This is the fantasy BS I am talking about here.
If you think someone who rants about Ireland being taken over by secret Communists has something to say, cool. Very telling how you always latch onto the baseless stuff without questions, but ignore all the straight forward evidence-backed information patiently provided to you here.
I always find his posts to be extremely well written and educational. It's a pity he doesn't post here more often, but his posts are always well worth reading, I find.
The health pass is an extremely authoritarian measure. There have protests against it for 9 weeks straight in France. Italy is just as bad (I don't mean to single out France) with its green pass. They're talking about mandatory vaccines there too at the moment.
I doubt most people could ever have imagined they'd live in societies that ban unvaccinated people from doing what were previously everyday activities, curfews, the government deciding how many people you can have in your own home, arrests for not wearing a mask (while guys with 100 previous convictions walk the streets), the government deciding how far from your own home you can go, the government deciding whether your business is essential or not, doctors and scientists scaring people non-stop in media interviews, public health celebrities like Tony Fauci threatening mandatory vaccines, talk of 3rd and 4th doses etc.
Yes, virus, I know, but is there any part of you that worries about liberty or worries that the reaction is disproportionate? Perhaps the most frightening thing of all is that what's gone on, and what's going on, is actually popular.
Conspiracy theorists constantly lie and dodge questions.
You are doing both right this moment.