Random EV thoughts.....

innrain · 06-09-2021 09:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117855547#Comment_117855547

Probably they try to avoid the case when a smart influencer is connecting both CCS in the same time and wonder why fireworks.

Joke aside when shopping and charging I prefer Kona which has the port in front. Usually AC chargers are on a wall and with Tesla you reverse in the parking spot then you have to manage getting your bags around. Also it doesn't matter which side the socket is.

cannco253 · 06-09-2021 11:36PM

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/06/vw-ford-daimler-fear-chip-shortage-could-persist-for-some-time.html

“Ford Europe's Herrmann, meanwhile, estimates the chip shortage could continue through to 2024, adding that it's difficult to pinpoint exactly when it will end.”

the_amazing_raisin · 07-09-2021 10:25AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117856331#Comment_117856331

As someone who used to be in the business, I can see where he's coming from. It takes years to build up new factory capacity and get everything operational

One other issue for the automotive industry is that the chips they use ate often tested to a much higher standard. Typical consumer electronics are allowed a failure rate of 500dpm (defects per million) whereas automotive components are allowed a failure rate of 50dpm for non critical components, and effectively 0dpm for critical ones

All this extra testing means you tend to end up binning a lot of good parts because they wander outside the process limits

So yeah, even if the global chip shortage gets solved soon it'll take a while to waterfall down to the automotive market

the_amazing_raisin · 07-09-2021 10:35AM

Bosch have joined the charging cable business with an adaptable type-2/3-pin charging cable. The plug at one end can be swapped for a regular type-2 or a 3-pin adapter

https://www.bosch-presse.de/pressportal/de/en/bosch-does-away-with-the-charging-brick-232659.html

It seems like a nice idea, but if I'm honest an adapter that can go on the end of an existing type 2 cable would be more useful IMO

I feel like the Metron cable is the golden standard here that other brands need to beat

DrPhilG · 07-09-2021 04:21PM

All this semiconductor hassle will surely keep second hand prices high for the foreseeable. Such a drag in new EVs means nobody is selling their old ones.

the_amazing_raisin · 07-09-2021 09:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117859141#Comment_117859141

Used car prices in general have been going up, some cars have even appreciated in value, I could see the same applying to EVs

One thing I've never been able to find is a price history for cars in Ireland. As in, put in a model and year and it shows the new and used asking prices for every year up to now. It obviously exists since it's used to calculate depreciation, but it could be locked up by SIMI

Incidentally if anyone can find something like this then please let me know 😄

cannco253 · 08-09-2021 11:05AM

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/intel-s-kildare-plant-to-produce-chips-for-car-makers-in-bid-to-boost-supply-1.4668202

Intel’s Kildare plant to produce chips for car makers in bid to boost supply

Intel to convert some of plant’s output to producing other companies’ designs

the_amazing_raisin · 08-09-2021 11:17AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117862466#Comment_117862466

They've been doing that for a few years in the US, farming out extra capacity to other companies. They're always careful not to produce chips in a market they're actively competing in, initially a lot of the outside business came from the FPGA market

This might be a sign that Intel is pulling out of some areas of the automotive market. I don't think any of their low cost chips were ever doing well

R.O.R · 08-09-2021 03:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117860574#Comment_117860574

SIMI are useful for one thing - https://www.simi.ie/en/motorstats/recommended-price-guide

They are the new car RRP prices, going back to 2004. Not as easy as choosing a make/model and year, but you can open the workbook for whichever year (more recently its done by month as well) and that gives the RRP of the car at the time.

Used vehicle "book" pricing was available to the motor trade at a subscription cost, so I'd presume all that data is held somewhere. I used to get a physical book each month that listed the recommended sale price of used cars, depending on age & mileage. We stopped getting it around 2014 I think as it was pretty useless - pricing just didn't reflect what cars were selling for, so we cancelled the subscription. I haven't see a book since, and can't remember the name of the publisher to google and see if they are still around.

the_amazing_raisin · 08-09-2021 04:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117863993#Comment_117863993

Thanks for that, I can now see how much value my Leaf has lost 😪

I used to work with a former car salesman (he switched to electronics design, bit of a career jump!) and he mentioned that nobody uses the blue book prices anymore because the cars never sell for that amount. It's a good guideline to estimate thing like depreciation though

cannco253 · 09-09-2021 08:35PM

https://www.advertiser.ie/galway/motors/

Volkswagen presents its ‘Mayo’ camouflaged prototype of its new ID. 5

For the weekend that’s in it!

cannco253 · 12-09-2021 12:49AM

https://electrek.co/2021/09/10/england-will-be-first-country-to-require-new-homes-to-include-ev-chargers/

is there anything like this in the recently announced government plans for residential new builds here? If not why not?

the_amazing_raisin · 12-09-2021 07:41AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117879114#Comment_117879114

I believe all new homes here are required to be cabled for a charger

However it's good to see the UK is extending this to offices and apartments, that's sorely needed here

JohnC. · 12-09-2021 01:30PM

From the UK Sunday Times

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e-car-chargers-will-turn-off-to-prevent-blackouts-jnm2m86pz

https://i.imgur.com/kSxwfYo.jpg

Kramer · 12-09-2021 03:06PM

So you'll be unable to charge your car at home, for possibly 9 hours? That's nuts!

That's going to copper-fasten many sceptics & act against EV adoption. I guess the carrot time is over & the big stick will be along shortly.

the_amazing_raisin · 12-09-2021 03:08PM

8am seems a bit early, folks could still be pulling charge during that time

I thought smart meters were supposed to prevent this by making electricity expensive during peak time to stop people doing stuff like charging EVs

AndyBoBandy · 12-09-2021 03:46PM

Or just remove that charger and install your own one which no ‘blackout periods’ installed in it….

cannco253 · 12-09-2021 03:51PM

https://youtu.be/Z6BGJy49u4w

These chargers look great (4 mins in).

Nice touch with the app

JohnC. · 12-09-2021 03:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117880806#Comment_117880806

I can't see the full paywalled article, but apparently even the ones with the blackout periods can be overridden.

the_amazing_raisin · 12-09-2021 04:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117880806#Comment_117880806

AFAIK in the UK you had to get a connected charger to get the OLEV grant. Doesn't say anything about it staying connected, I imagine quite a few chargers in the UK are about to suffer some permanent network failure

garo · 12-09-2021 06:20PM

Sounds to me like typical Sunday Times scare-mongering. I wouldn't trust a Murdoch paper to be transparent and truthful about anything related to the environment. The story says something about WTo regulations which sounds pretty fishy to me.

But honestly why would anyone want to charge a car outside of night rate anyway?

the_amazing_raisin · 12-09-2021 06:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117881573#Comment_117881573

Exactly, this is what night rates are all about, they're trying to encourage usage when there's an abundance of power available

I've seen people drive across town to save 5c per litre so I can't imagine too many people are happy to pay 2-3 times the cheapest rate for electricity

The only folks I could see using daytime charging would be folks who regularly use public charging and the few folks who go through 70kWh or more per day and might still be charging outside the night rate

ted1 · 12-09-2021 07:09PM

the story is nonsense, I suspect it’s more to do with a demand side management deal, that a lazy journalist didn’t understand

garo · 12-09-2021 09:35PM

Yeah and public charging is excluded from the supposed ban anyway.

innrain · 15-09-2021 04:15PM

Was this in the news at some point this year?

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2021/si/115/made/en/print

That is major for chargers and hubs. 3.6m3 is something. Even the Delta 150kW which is the bulkiest I know is less than that.

cannco253 · 16-09-2021 12:11AM

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/a6a2f-government-approves-electric-vehicle-policy-pathway-report/#

70+ pages to digest

cannco253 · 16-09-2021 09:43AM

https://www.independent.ie/news/environment/electric-car-grants-tax-breaks-to-be-reviewed-as-cost-to-state-of-continuing-supports-could-rise-to-over-12bn-for-just-100000-evs-40855333.html

Following on from the Government paper published yesterday.

I wonder who will head up the OLEV?

No complaints about the pace of the eCars rollout in the report from what I can see.

AndyBoBandy · 16-09-2021 10:15AM

When new car prices are being advertised, be it in media or at dealerships, they should have to not only put down the purchase price of the car, but also the expected total cost of ownership of said car over a 2, 5 & 10 year period (based on average mileage etc....), and those total cost of ownership prices should be in big bold font..... front and centre.

2 year figures will probably show price parity between ICE & EV, but once you get to 5 & 10 years, folk will see the savings to be had in an EV.

Dealers will never go for this, so they'd have to be forced into doing it.

KCross · 16-09-2021 10:35AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117897731#Comment_117897731

I havent read it all in detail but the summary/recommendations basically say to leave most things exactly as they are until end of 2022 and in the meantime setup a new office within SEAI called OLEV and give them more funding to consider the next steps! 🙄

How long has it taken them to produce this report? 1-2yrs?!

SEAI were well represented in this working group, I suspect.

slave1 · 16-09-2021 11:31AM

I've posted it time and time before, cut and paste the proven Norway model and adapt for Ireland, no more, no less.

The Irish Gov had not implemented proven incentives e.g. free motor tax, and have already withdrawn others years too early given we are clearly in Adoption cycle.

Only word is incompetence, and that will not change given profile of our "electives". A duck with a hammer up it's arse would do a better job.

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