WWE Raw Superthread

The Bollocks · 31-08-2021 3:27am

Omos clearly has the skills. I can see this is building up to Omos vs. Brock at Hollywood Mania 2023

The White Wolf · 31-08-2021 6:50am

I see Charlotte and Nia had a breakdown in communication putting it mildly. I'm not a Nia but watching Charlotte have a meltdown like that is just embarrassing. Reminds me of what she did to Kairi.

Agent Coulson · 31-08-2021 8:17am

Just looking at Nia throwing what looks like shoot fists at Charlotte on Twitter she was close to a knock out if the 3rd one landed square.

CastorTroy · 31-08-2021 9:38am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117825984#Comment_117825984

Poor Kairi. the "she" in your sentence could apply to either of the 2 women unfortunately. I guess you mean Charlotte in the tag match. What happened last night anyway? Looked like Charlotte went for yet another headlock but Nia just shrugged it off. I must've missed what happened before that.

Did they even address why the Lashley/Sheamus thing didn't happen? I know "plans change" but that's usually the excuse from wrestling news sites. Since Drew took the pin, that could've been a 1 on 1 match. Maybe was because Vince decided last minute that he wanted RK-Bro on there and didn't have opponents to justify putting them in the main event.

J. Marston · 31-08-2021 9:50am

Looks like Nia lost the head after Charlotte slapped her.

Charlotte is the better and more experienced wrestler and should've tried to rescue it but then she lost the head after Nia's punches.

It didn't even look like a good shoot fight, just two petulant little girls getting angry. What a shìtshow

titan18 · 31-08-2021 10:17am

Tbf Nia had a huge botch before that where she dropped Charlotte. Charlotte gave her a receipt for it (justly, as in typical Nia fashion it was very dangerous) and Nia lost her head then. Even the powerbomb at the end she gave Charlotte was ridiculously dangerous.

Lord TSC · 31-08-2021 11:29am

You've one woman who constantly botches, to a dangerous level.

And another woman who does not react well at all when something goes wrong in a match, and lashes out when it goes south.

The two of them have absolutely zero chemistry together, and both seemed to make mistakes. Nia seems constantly booked to be a powerhouse, despite having very little strength by the looks of it ("big" does not mean "strong", and that's coming from someone who knows). And Charlotte sandbagging her is utterly unprofessional as well; even if she's pissed about the accidents, trying to start a shoot fight on TV is never the proper direction to go. Plus she nearly got put down by Nia, quickly.

Utter disaster that both should be reprimanded for, but neither will for various reasons...

The White Wolf · 31-08-2021 11:39am

Nia was coming close to landing a serious blow which is the gas thing. Charlotte would have known all it about had she gone down like a ton of bricks on live TV, as her star power would have taken a serious hit.

Lord TSC · 31-08-2021 12:20pm

https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1432547478138757120?s=20

...

J. Marston · 31-08-2021 12:33pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/SkullsMedia/status/1432528503170162689

Nia is just lazy. Proper wrestler goes down with that move too and drops the other wrestler safely.

Not Nia though, she couldn't be arsed standing up again.

The White Wolf · 31-08-2021 1:05pm

Just looking at Morrison and Omos, looked like some uncomfortable bumps for Johnny. Hopes he's not forgotten.

The White Wolf · 31-08-2021 1:12pm

Just seen Nia clocking Rhea as well last night. :D

CastorTroy · 31-08-2021 1:18pm

Looking quickly through that match again, it looked like anything could've started it. Was messy throughout

ThePott · 31-08-2021 5:56pm

Had to check out a few of the things from Raw after all the hubbub.

The triple threat for the US title was pretty good, just let these big lads tear strips off each other every week and it would be class. Omos vs Morrison, yikes! They're doing no favours to the big man putting him in a match like that. He's green as grass.

Ofc the main talking point Nia vs Charlotte. I can't help but just laugh "My Hole" off watching this. What a tremendous flub of a match. I don't know what happened but even when it was on the rails it was a trainwreck. Both looked terrible out of it. Even putting a pin in the apparent shoot aspects of it, Nia is so bad. Like even putting aside the times she was dangerous and reckless. She didn't look good. Slow and boring and showing absolutely no improvement at all. Was the plan that they would put on a match so bad that we would be crying out for the return of Alexa doing voodoo for the title?

CastorTroy · 31-08-2021 6:45pm

Wonder if Asuka is looking elsewhere for work

JP Liz V1 · 01-09-2021 12:53am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117795746#Comment_117795746

Asuka was getting new teeth

CastorTroy · 01-09-2021 1:06am

Think it's the age old "creative has nothing" for her.

As I saw pointed out somewhere, she was Raw women's champion for pretty much all of the Thunderdome era and as soon as the crowd comes back the title's taken off her and she's taken off tv. Nice reward.

J. Marston · 01-09-2021 1:41am

Or it could the age old "arm in a sling".

https://twitter.com/wweasuka/status/1432837555498618880?s=21

Just last week...

On the latest Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Dave Meltzer reported that Asuka is fine. The reason behind her on-screen absence is simply that WWE doesn't have any creative plans for her right now.

When are people gonna stop believing that fúcking spoofer?

CastorTroy · 01-09-2021 10:48am

Ah, I just googled and saw a couple stories saying the same thing. Of course they probably all going by the same report. If only I'd waited a day.

But good to see her smiling and hope the injury's not too serious. The fact we can look directly at the picture shows she didn't go to Roman's dentist

Headshot · 01-09-2021 3:35pm

I've seen the youtube videos of Nia and Charlotte

There was some real animosity in this match and who would blame Charlotte on this.

How Nia continues to be allowed to wrestle is beyond me. Some day she's going to hurt someone really badly. The other women in the roster most really worry for being in the ring with her as you're relying on her to take care of you and she's not capable of doing it

J. Marston · 01-09-2021 3:46pm

If I was a woman with any kind of pull or standing in WWE I'd just refuse to wrestler her.

The White Wolf · 01-09-2021 4:12pm

Bubba Ray Dudley did a rundown of what he thinks happened, basically started with Nia's rough treatment of Rhea Ripley before the match and Charlotte was gunning for her after that.

Probably bollox but seems logical, mind you Charlotte's treatment of Kairi Sane doesn't scream locker room leader to me.

JP Liz V1 · 05-09-2021 1:29am

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1434290184313528324

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CastorTroy · 05-09-2021 10:57am

Will it be a Brawl for All type match? 🤔

If that's the match they're using to sell the episode then they really are struggling.

Were Miz and Morisson meant to fight. Saw it mentioned in the replies.

The White Wolf · 05-09-2021 2:34pm

Wouldn't be surprised if Nia wins.

Furious-Red · 05-09-2021 3:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117849628#Comment_117849628

Id say the only reason Shayna is in the match is to take the fall

CastorTroy · 05-09-2021 4:09pm

It's not a triple threat or handicap. Shayna is included as probably being in Nia's corner. So likely cost her the match in some way.

Furious-Red · 05-09-2021 4:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117850011#Comment_117850011

Oh sorry I read that it as flair vs jax vs shayna, yea I'd say shayna will try help but end up costing her the title

JP Liz V1 · 06-09-2021 4:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117850166#Comment_117850166

I thought triple threat also

Is Reggie gone from Nia and Shayna? I expect Alexia and Lilly to also interfere

Is Nikki and Rhea looking for any rematches?

PTH2009 · 07-09-2021 1:03am

AEW jesus you made opening promo look like dog ****

JP Liz V1 · 07-09-2021 10:16am

What happened Sheamus world title shot against Bobby?

ThePott · 07-09-2021 5:29pm

Jesus, two whole posts on the Raw thread. What a trainwreck.

The White Wolf · 07-09-2021 6:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117859434#Comment_117859434

Tbh I don't think they can do anything to get me back into it beyond watching the odd YT clip. Definitely won't be getting the network back.

Even Smackdown that people rave about is only marginally better IMO. I've given more money to NWA and Impact this year which says it all.

orecir · 07-09-2021 7:13pm

In fairness it was a solid enough Raw.

Orton vs Lashley is at least something different.

ThePott · 07-09-2021 7:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117859639#Comment_117859639

I do wonder is there much that will get me watching Raw, aside from a complete teardown job. Although I'm sure I'll give it a look in near a big PPV or maybe for the brand split. I won't lie, I really enjoy Smackdown. NXT was where my heart was with WWE for a long time but they've slowly killed my interest in it and the rebranding of it will probably be the nail in the coffin for me I'd imagine.

beakerjoe · 07-09-2021 7:20pm

It was a solid enough Raw by Raw standards.

Its pretty poor in compared to what AEW are dishing out. Even AEWs weaker weekly shows are head an shoulders above a the best Raw has offered in the last decade.

This show, judging by the clips, was the usual decent enough to poor action with storys that fail to suck you in which is hampered by over production. I gave it a chance, it didn't pass the test.

beakerjoe · 07-09-2021 7:21pm

And its a shame as they have such a talented roster.

Loughc · 07-09-2021 8:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117859860#Comment_117859860

Orton top of the card is not something different though.

~Rebel~ · 07-09-2021 10:54pm

Raw is only really decent these days when there's some sort of tournament thing going on... was decent in the run up to Money in the Bank too.

I hate that they're doing exactly the same thing with Rhea and Nikki as they did with Orton and Riddle. Like, down to the personalities even - it's the same contrast "chatterbox one" and "tired but just about still tolerant one". They could have used the characters own personalities better, making it the happy light one, and the dark brooding one, with playful arguments and juxtopositions building off that.

JP Liz V1 · 12-09-2021 12:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117859860#Comment_117859860

Their title match scheduled for Raw and Extreme Rules PPV

JP Liz V1 · 13-09-2021 4:47pm

Some of the matches announced for Raw include WWE Champion Bobby Lashley defending against Randy Orton, Natalya vs. Rhea Ripley, Charlotte Flair vs. Shayna Baszler, and Damian Priest issuing an open challenge for his United States Title

CastorTroy · 13-09-2021 4:55pm

I'm assuming Doudrop will get the night off

https://twitter.com/DoudropWWE/status/1436651063088648202

Agent Coulson · 13-09-2021 5:09pm

Vince hotshoting matches for tonight's RAW after losing in the ratings to AEW last week.

Oh that can't be he doesn't consider AEW any competition.

Lord TSC · 13-09-2021 6:18pm

https://twitter.com/WWEBigE/status/1437458929198542850

so, guess I’m watching raw

Agent Coulson · 13-09-2021 6:25pm

Definitely trying to counter program a show on another network on another night of the week.

Lord TSC · 13-09-2021 6:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117886264#Comment_117886264

That, and Monday night Football starts tonight in America. Always hire them hard.

ThePott · 13-09-2021 6:53pm

Does anyone think he'll actually cash in though?

Been burned too many times. I'm guessing shenanigans.

Lord TSC · 13-09-2021 7:08pm

Oh, yeah, it’s defo not happening. The fact we all know it won’t is what turns me off the product overall.

it’s more curiosity of how they backpedal.

J. Marston · 13-09-2021 7:16pm

Double swerve. They'll actually go through with it but he'll lose.

This is the start of their patented "Make fans of X miserable for a half a year before we throw them a few crumbs" play.

CastorTroy · 13-09-2021 7:48pm

He'll attempt to cash in before being beat down.

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