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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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    #10022
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 939 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117829806#Comment_117829806

    Their 65% was of total population, by that metric we're at about 68%. So no huge difference.



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    #10023
    Dempo1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117829888#Comment_117829888

    We'll agree to disagree but I'll end by saying, it's safe to say the most vulnerable and older population fully vacinated there and its them that vacinne protection is reducing, I'm only say this is a serious concern regardless of what percentage of population is vacinated, even Leo referred to Israels success and now serious challenge in tonights press conference.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    #10024
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,295 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117829823#Comment_117829823

    they said peaking in a week or so I thought?



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    #10025
    Dempo1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117829917#Comment_117829917

    They seem to have suggested tonight late September, early October hence the 20th October date for lifting last restrictions. In reality I don't think anyone can be 100% sure of anything when it comes to covid

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    #10026
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭brickster69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117829762#Comment_117829762

    To be fair Israel are testing 10 times as much as Ireland and Scotland 3 times as much, so no surprise to see them have a higher rate of cases really. I suppose the good thing is about finding cases is that you take them out of action instead of them running around spreading to even more people.

    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



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    #10027
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,043 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117829917#Comment_117829917

    Stephen Donnelly said mid-October on Newstalk this evening based on three out of four projections.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar, The Scratch

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Stereolab, KNEECAP, Sugar, Clutch, Big Thief, Jon Spencer, The Cure, Forest Fest, IDLES, Electric Picnic, Public Service Broadcasting, Levellers, Suede/Manic Street Preachers, Korn, Fat Dog, Ash



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    #10028
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭brickster69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117829982#Comment_117829982

    True like. Puts Ireland 3 months behind the Uk if correct.

    https://twitter.com/NewstalkFM/status/1432769045699481605?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1432769045699481605%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newstalk.com%2Fnews%2Freopening-plan-comes-with-heavy-caveat-about-covid-19-rates-donnelly-1245895


    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



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    #10029
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,439 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117828260#Comment_117828260

    Let them at it by all means, but they should not be allowed in public buildings or on public transport with responsible people.



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    #10030
    daydorunrun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830077#Comment_117830077

    This is about protecting the health service now. Why should unvaxxed not be allowed on a train while an obese person is allowed into a McDonald’s? Where do you draw the line? Both can catch and transmit covid- still a good chance the obese person will have more likelihood of complications.

    I know 3 people who are classified unvaxxed after bad reactions to their first jab- one ended up in hospital for 11 days- they obeyed every rule of this pandemic from 2k rules to masks, one has had to close his business (company providing security for pubs/nightclubs) he got minimal supports. Should these people have their civil rights removed?

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



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    #10031
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,365 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117829890#Comment_117829890

    Who's fault?

    I'm not looking to blame anyone here. We are just getting conflicting information is all.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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    #10032
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,043 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830326#Comment_117830326

    It's desperate to think that people believe that junior infants may have to wear face masks...

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar, The Scratch

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Stereolab, KNEECAP, Sugar, Clutch, Big Thief, Jon Spencer, The Cure, Forest Fest, IDLES, Electric Picnic, Public Service Broadcasting, Levellers, Suede/Manic Street Preachers, Korn, Fat Dog, Ash



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    #10033
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 695 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830346#Comment_117830346

    Do you think they wont.

    HIQA to consider recommending lowering of age group for masks.



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    #10034
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,043 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830356#Comment_117830356

    I think they won't.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar, The Scratch

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Stereolab, KNEECAP, Sugar, Clutch, Big Thief, Jon Spencer, The Cure, Forest Fest, IDLES, Electric Picnic, Public Service Broadcasting, Levellers, Suede/Manic Street Preachers, Korn, Fat Dog, Ash



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    #10035
    Relax brah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    I wasn’t sure on this FF/FG/G government when they initially came into power. Today, that changed for me.

    I shed a tear listening to Michael considering all we have been through as a country. We should be very proud of what we have achieved and this government have been excellent.



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    #10036
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,138 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Sarah McInerney interviewing Leo

    All about did NPHET agree to ease restrictions

    The cult of NPHET is alive in rte



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    #10037
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830440#Comment_117830440

    What have we achieved? Wrecked mental health, ruined businesses, a two tiered society, constant threat of lockdown, and the latest is talk of masking children.



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    #10038
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,043 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830440#Comment_117830440

    Hard to tell if serious.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar, The Scratch

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Stereolab, KNEECAP, Sugar, Clutch, Big Thief, Jon Spencer, The Cure, Forest Fest, IDLES, Electric Picnic, Public Service Broadcasting, Levellers, Suede/Manic Street Preachers, Korn, Fat Dog, Ash



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    #10039
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,291 ✭✭✭growleaves


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830346#Comment_117830346

    The fact that its being seriously considered means.. that its being seriously considered. Not a figmet of people's imaginations. They [the authorities] could refuse to consider the question entirely and declare it out of bounds but they don't do that. So it is a live possibility however unlikely you deem it.



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    #10040
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117829872#Comment_117829872

    New modelling. A shallower but longer wave



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    #10041
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,043 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830467#Comment_117830467

    For junior infants? Where has it been said that it's being seriously considered?

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar, The Scratch

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Stereolab, KNEECAP, Sugar, Clutch, Big Thief, Jon Spencer, The Cure, Forest Fest, IDLES, Electric Picnic, Public Service Broadcasting, Levellers, Suede/Manic Street Preachers, Korn, Fat Dog, Ash



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    #10042
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117829994#Comment_117829994

    If the uk has peaked. It is growing again there



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    #10043
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,365 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830477#Comment_117830477

    Oh right, hadn't realized this was released. Haven't seen it in the media.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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    #10044
    Dempo1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830290#Comment_117830290

    My sincere Apologies, I misread your post.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    #10045
    Vaccinated30
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Vaccinated30


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830467#Comment_117830467

    Its been seriously considered numerous times and hasn't happened.

    More touching of faces may occur, including by those supervising children (eg teachers) where they need to assist a child with a face covering; this may lead to closer contact and potentially touching of high-risk secretions,” said Hiqa in its advisory paper on the issue.

    That issue will never change.



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    #10046
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830384#Comment_117830384

    Donnelly stated this evening that HIQA already gave their feedback to nphet and it recommended no change. NPHET have yet to incorporate into the recommendations to government though



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    #10047
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,043 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830538#Comment_117830538

    But, but, but...junior infants...permanent...

    ...*sigh*

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar, The Scratch

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Stereolab, KNEECAP, Sugar, Clutch, Big Thief, Jon Spencer, The Cure, Forest Fest, IDLES, Electric Picnic, Public Service Broadcasting, Levellers, Suede/Manic Street Preachers, Korn, Fat Dog, Ash



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    #10048
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,179 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    What is defined as a private setting where masks are not required



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    #10049
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830573#Comment_117830573

    Someone's home.



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    #10050
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,291 ✭✭✭growleaves


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830537#Comment_117830537

    Right. So it won't happen for technical reasons.

    However deciding whether or not to force very young children to wear masks is not merely a technical issue, it also has moral and ethical implications.

    If HIQA recommended it I still wouldn't allow it and if a restrictions-apologist zombie told me that its best to trust the experts I would laugh in their face or tell them to go to hell. Or both.

    Bureaucratic neutrality is worn as a costume.

    Individual members of committees dodge moral responsibility for their decisions both through the committee structure itself (which divides out decision-making among a group) and through the pretense that their words and actions exist on a plane of neutrality above the comprehension of, and overruling, un-credentialed non-scientists. Not so.



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    #10051
    kerrycork13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭kerrycork13


    When are we going to open late night bars for music? And please when are the closing times gonna be changed from 11pm. Killarney is a **** joke at present last orders at 10.15-10.30 depending on where you go.



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