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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭godzilla1989


    I do care

    Hope I am wrong btw, just don’t see it.

    If he’s wrong it’s another winter of restrictions unfortunately

    Hospitals are filling up now as you know

    347 in them now, 2% case hospitalisation rate, if cases grow past 3,000 we are in trouble



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,291 ✭✭✭growleaves


    What do you think the larger point I'm making though?

    Is there anything principled that would be a red line for you, that you wouldn't go along with but could be linked to a QR code, employment, financial transactions etc.?

    I read all your posts but I see nothing I couldn't read in any newspaper, hear on the radio, see on the TV etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,042 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    That last sentence is nonsense. I wasn't hospitalised...but I was as sick as I've ever been in my life. It wasn't, "effectively a cold."

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar, The Scratch

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Stereolab, KNEECAP, Sugar, Clutch, Big Thief, Jon Spencer, The Cure, Forest Fest, IDLES, Electric Picnic, Public Service Broadcasting, Levellers, Suede/Manic Street Preachers, Korn, Fat Dog



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,291 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Punfailed what was it then? Also has long covid destroyed your life?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,204 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Any leaks ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,042 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    It was waaaay worse than the flu. I'm still not back to full fitness and I still can't taste and smell after nearly six weeks. Effectively a cold my arsé.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar, The Scratch

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Stereolab, KNEECAP, Sugar, Clutch, Big Thief, Jon Spencer, The Cure, Forest Fest, IDLES, Electric Picnic, Public Service Broadcasting, Levellers, Suede/Manic Street Preachers, Korn, Fat Dog



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,291 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Five months it took my mate to get his taste and smell back.

    For many people influenza can be as bad or worse, it depends.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,042 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar, The Scratch

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Stereolab, KNEECAP, Sugar, Clutch, Big Thief, Jon Spencer, The Cure, Forest Fest, IDLES, Electric Picnic, Public Service Broadcasting, Levellers, Suede/Manic Street Preachers, Korn, Fat Dog



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭darconio


    I genuinely would like to know, generally speaking, if this lost of taste and smell is something that is 100%, or is because you have/had a nose/throat infection then the senses are kind of goosed? Like If I gave you a steak or a piece or cardboard would make any difference to you? I know it's very subjective but I've been always curious in relation to this post-covid symptom



  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]




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  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    As I said. It will be gone before we know it. A temporary measure to relax some restrictions earlier than those making decisions were comfortable otherwise. There will be no long term vaccine “passport” other than on the case of specific pathogens in specific locations. Eg Yellow fever



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,042 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    If I'm eating something that I eat regularly, it's kinda like my brain is reminding me what it tastes like. If I'm eating something that I don't usually eat...it's as bland as I'd imagine eating cardboard would be. If I eat something hot/spicy, I still get that runny nose thing but no accompanying taste.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar, The Scratch

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Stereolab, KNEECAP, Sugar, Clutch, Big Thief, Jon Spencer, The Cure, Forest Fest, IDLES, Electric Picnic, Public Service Broadcasting, Levellers, Suede/Manic Street Preachers, Korn, Fat Dog



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,291 ✭✭✭growleaves


    They say six months in official advice. So you're looking at five to seven months.

    I'm sorry I took a flippant tone now. Get well soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,291 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Okay but in Singapore it is becoming mandatory for employment beginning January 2022.

    I don't know what the future holds but it looks as if it is still only being 'rolled out' (hate that phrase) in many places.

    It can't be 'rolled back' fast enough imo.



  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Singapore? Really? Singapore is a repressive state dressed up as a modern country



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,343 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Just for reference, there are 11,000 hospital beds in this country. 347 in hospital is a drop in the ocean.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Without the vaccine we would be at over 5k cases per day assuming 80% effective at preventing infection, which is reasonable. The reduction in hospital rates also has to take account of the infections that never happened



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    I suppose one small benefit is that you don’t get to smell your own f**ts after eating that hot and spicy food - unless your brain also replicates that.

    Post edited by Happydays2020 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,042 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Ah cheers. It's a minor thing in the grand scheme of things I suppose. There's no enjoyment in eating.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar, The Scratch

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Stereolab, KNEECAP, Sugar, Clutch, Big Thief, Jon Spencer, The Cure, Forest Fest, IDLES, Electric Picnic, Public Service Broadcasting, Levellers, Suede/Manic Street Preachers, Korn, Fat Dog



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,042 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Ha! Not so far. One bonus was having no trouble with the portaloos at the festival 😆

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar, The Scratch

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Stereolab, KNEECAP, Sugar, Clutch, Big Thief, Jon Spencer, The Cure, Forest Fest, IDLES, Electric Picnic, Public Service Broadcasting, Levellers, Suede/Manic Street Preachers, Korn, Fat Dog



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭Parachutes


    Yourself going to a festival? Having a great time in close proximity with other people (sacks of pestilence and disease) You must have been petrified the whole time.



  • Posts: 695 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Oh gosh

    Im so impressed by his PHD research, what that has got to do with infectious disease is beyond me.

    why on earth werent people like Jack Lambert of the Mater Hospital on that NEPHET team, ie people that actually studied infectious diseases and work in this area.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,042 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar, The Scratch

    Gigs '26 - Deftones, Sleaford Mods, Stereolab, KNEECAP, Sugar, Clutch, Big Thief, Jon Spencer, The Cure, Forest Fest, IDLES, Electric Picnic, Public Service Broadcasting, Levellers, Suede/Manic Street Preachers, Korn, Fat Dog



  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Reality is not the delusions ye tell yourselves on here every day

    ”Not ranting and raving about restrictions constantly, must be living in permanent fear”



  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Your believe there were no experts in infectious disease on NPHET?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,295 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    I would love to be as confident and optimistic as that. But unfortunately the data doesn’t lead us to that



  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I was talking about the vaccine pass. This virus is with us forever. In a couple of years it will be talked about like the flu and minor ailments will be discussed in the manor of “yeah, needed to ring in sick, sure I had the Covid” when you had no idea what you had



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭Parachutes




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,396 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Taste comes back quick enough some things for example for me was beer took way longer than 6 months for the Taste of it to return to normal.

    Nearly a year on smell of certain things is still strange for certain things for me ,shampoo shower gel deodorant rool on or spray and fruit juices still smell like rotten shity foul water.

    Only able to use dove soap the type with no perfume.

    Positive is even the smell of these is less pungent but still can turn my stomach.

    I wouldn't have even known I had covid if it wasn't for the loss of Taste and smell it was just like a normal run of the mill cold otherwise.



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