Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

The claim of the next 1-2 weeks will be verified pretty soon. What is it that tells you he is wrong? Bear in mind that in a few weeks we could have nearly 80% of the total population vaccinated and a good few of those remaining will have had COVID.

The vaccine also leads people to conclude a status that may not be true at this stage as well it would seem.

Sounds like the usual "just 2 more weeks" mantra we have been hearing since March 2020. At this stage I wouldn't be getting my hopes up. At this stage you need to take anything they say with a huge lump of salt. I can see Holahan coming stomping in and putting a stop to this.

This is what annoys me. There is a massive agenda to vaccinate 12+ year olds (because there are almost no adults left to vaccinate?). We are being bombarded with news articles and "interviews" across TV, radio and print pushing for this even though it is largely unnecessary.

This morning on the front pages of RTE.ie, IrishTimes.com and Independent.ie we have the headline news articles below. Regardless of your opinion on the topic, anybody who thinks the media are independent has their head in the clouds.

It strikes me that they are now taking a more dynamic approach to it, despite sticking the government with a fixed set of data points in July. By the looks of things the vaccination rate now plays a far bigger role in the models.

Pretty much every other prediction of his has been wrong.

It's not their being wrong, it is that it is the only measure that the government uses to make decisions.

Some have been out but that may be the limitations of epidemiological modelling and what they include. It was wrong about October last year, Christmas and the level of this surge but it has been within a reasonable margin most of the time. 10-14 days will show if he is wrong here.

Again the usual mantra of "just 2 more weeks". Restrictions need to lifted now and no more of this 2 more weeks BS.

Yeah, most reasonable people understand this, but if he were to actually do that, this thread would be awash with claims that "......NPHET admit they don't know what they're doing bla, bla, bla, they're not fit for purpose disband them etc etc"

It depends on what they're pushing for, vaccinating kids who dont get sick and need hospital treatment doesnt stack up with the argument for not overwhelming hospitals

The vulnerable are already vaccinated. Vaccinated children can presumably (like adults) still catch and spread the virus. Children are (mostly) not impacted by the virus.

Unfortunately some people will succumb to the virus no matter what and we need to accept that. Situation will be no different than seasonal flu each year.

NPHET and the government are now targeting children as the enemy. It's sad to see.

The state has thrown all it's effort into pushing for vaccinating children 12+. One look at the headlines on the main stream media will tell you that. I don't read any other news sites or Twitter conspiracy theory pages. I'm just saying it as I see it. It's the same as travellers coming to Ireland were the previous enemy.

Unfortunately, there will always be some who for one reason or another can't take the vaccine or the vaccine is not effective. We should be proud of the percentage of the adult population we now have fully vaccinated. Applying pressure to squeeze even more out of the population in terms of vaccination numbers has diminishing returns. We need to accept this is about as good as it gets and open everything up and move on.