Home charge points (purchase/problems/questions) (See mod note post#1)

2022 VW ID.3 Business.

If your contract with Energia is finishing before the end of December, my advice would be to first cancel the meter install and new contract with Energia in the cooling off period. Call them again within a week of the end of your contract to request the day/night meter but without renewing your contract. They may tell you have to enter a new contract, you don't. This means you will be paying around 29c day and 15c night😲. Contact your dealer to pass your details onto Airtricity. They will contact you as a new customer with similar rates to Energia but with €675 credit to your account provided the car is registered between July and December.

Have a look here:

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058203066/switching-energy-supplier-and-to-a-day-night-meter#latest

It only costs €50 to break your contract. Certainly worth considering, it's a very good offer. I find switcher.ie very good to help with seeing if it's worth the hassle as long as you know what your usage in units is.

No honor among thieves or energy supply companies 😁.

I am getting the meter installed through my current provider (Energia). Be aware that Energia will tell that the only way they can get you the meter installed is to setup a new contract, this is absolutely not true. I am getting the meter installed next Monday and I'll be out of contract and paying their exorbitant rates while I wait to switch to Airtricity. My dealer has already passed my details onto Airtricity so I expect to hear from them by the end of the week and start the process of switching to them. It's a bit of a pain I know but while I was tempted to just stick with Energia for less hassle, €675 is not to be sneezed at either.

You can choose from any of the switch offers below, in addition to the €675. I will go for the 30% as we are a high usage household. 30% of Airtricity standard rates is barely more expensive than 40% off Energia's standard rates.

https://sseairtricity.com/ie/home/products/switch-to-sse-airtricity/?utm_source=Paid_Search&utm_medium=Google_PPC&utm_campaign=Conversion&utm_content=Pure_Brand&gclid=CjwKCAjw3_KIBhA2EiwAaAAlij6hCR-Ab9h3eMMHW5gijwGsp6xso6yyWEaa7lwdtnojWLIsLlyEaxoCpUUQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Good plan to let Energia go ahead with the install if you will not lose out paying the higher day rate before you get the benefit of the night rate when that car arrives. I'm currently on a 13c 24 rate which is excellent so I waited until the end of my current contract to switch. I'm also on school holidays so doing very little driving at the moment.

My dealer passed on my details yesterday and Airtricity just rang me a few minutes ago. I'm getting the meter installed on Monday morning, Airtricity will ring me on Tuesday morning to switch and that will take effect immediately. With my usage of approximately 7,500 units day and 6,000 units night I will save €733 with Airtricity over Energia.

I'd say there's a slim enough chance you'd get it in the next 2 days. Last one I did in May took 6 days via email and I never got a hard copy. I'd suggest contacting them directly if your timeframe is that tight.

Whatever you do, don't allow the work to go ahead until you have the letter of offer as they won't cover any cost incurred before the letter is issued.

This will not resolve your main issue which is undersized cables

whilst your meter may be replaced ,a notice of potential hazard may be issued. You’ll need a rec to install the new mains cables and upgrade earthing and new earth rod and provide a certificate for Esbn. There’s a charge also from Esbn (@€180) to do their connecting.

I know that. My REC was the one who said the meter tails upgrade (which he’ll be doing) would be facilitated by a new meter and isolation.

Good to have you post that information for any others in a similar position.

Apologies if this has been answered already, but with the new rules, is an isolation switch a requirement or can you get away without one? Not sure it matters but the house is five years old and we have an air to water heat pump. Thanks

Thanks Garo. Do you know if there are any chargers which have it built in, to hide it? I'm guessing not...

Hi are you sure you need to install a wall charger..For PHEV the standard 3 pin Granny charger that should come with the car should do..A friend of mine got the Ford Kuga PHEV and was told no need to install a charger as the 3 pin would do..Someonelse on the forum may be able to shine a light on PHEV home charging.

Might save yourself a lot of hassle on an install

Thats pretty much it alright.

The convenience of having a proper charger with proper wiring and weatherproofing to be able to take "high" current for extended periods. A granny cable isnt a long term solution.

And if they have a PHEV now there is a very good chance they will have a BEV in future in which case they will need the proper charge point then and you'd be as well to get the charge point in now while the grants are still in play. They wont last forever.

Anybody got information in regards how to be compliant in regards pen fault detection requirements if using a Tesla wall charger with a TN-C-S electricity supply? From what I can gather it doesn’t have anything built in.

or what would the recommended wall chargers other than zappy that would have this built in safety built in?

No haven’t bought anything yet. I was about to purchase it (gen 3) & had been reading the install manual to see what protections and features were built in & noticed a warning about additional protection required if installed in a TN-C-S type system. Seems an additional earth rod dedicated for charger or separate pen fault unit installed at consumer unit is required to make the Tesla charger compliant to be installed in Ireland. looking at the wall box & Anderson A2 units now as they seem to have this pen fault protection built in. Thanks for link