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The Irish media hysteria

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  • Registered Users Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Pdoghue


    As someone who broadly supports the concept of public service broadcasting, I've become increasingly irritated by RTE's coverage of the pandemic.

    There's now no question in my mind that ALL RTE presenters have been directed to take an editorial line that does not question the NPHET advice. I'm not necessarily being critical here, but how does a broadcaster like RTE with a public service remit provide balanced coverage of a pandemic? In a general election or referendum, it's probably easier to provide balance and equal time to all sides, but in a pandemic? How does RTE decide what's credible or not? But having said that, their assessment of risk in relation to Covid-19 seems to have become skewed far too much on the side of being ultra-cautious.

    RTE starts in the morning with Morning Ireland where Aine Lawlor and Mary Wilson's breathless hysterical coverage has become increasingly grating, in particular with regard to the Delta variant. There was an item a few weeks ago about an 'outbreak' from a party outside on the banks of the Shannon, and it was presented as a doomsday scenario with dire consequences. I'm not sure those dire consequences have materialised. The coverage presented by the likes of Claire Byrne and George Lee has been discussed at length.

    Where the coverage extends outside the current affairs department is where you can really notice the editorial policy. I was listening to Sunday Sport on Radio 1 a few Sundays ago, and there was a discussion between Darren Frehill, Jackie Hurley and John Mullane about the restrictions on fans allowed to attend the Clare v Waterford Munster championship match. Mullane was saying it was crazy that only 200 were allowed to attend, or maybe there were none allowed at all. The RTE sports presenters hummed and hawwed, and basically said that we must listen to the experts and that if NPHET recommended that attendance, then they must be right. So even the non-current affairs RTE presenters can't express a contrary opinion to the government/NPHET. It was quite revealing I thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Ha, RTE sport have a story about the England cricket team as one of their top stories this morning. The Ireland cricket team barely gets a look in from RTE, have never seen them publish a single story about the England cricket team (I'm not complaining, why would they). Today's story? Covid outbreak in the England squad currently preparing to face Pakistan in England this month leading to them picking an entirely new squad. All of a sudden English cricket is newsworthy to them.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ha, RTE sport have a story about the England cricket team as one of their top stories this morning. The Ireland cricket team barely gets a look in from RTE, have never seen them publish a single story about the England cricket team (I'm not complaining, why would they). Today's story? Covid outbreak in the England squad currently preparing to face Pakistan in England this month leading to them picking an entirely new squad. All of a sudden English cricket is newsworthy to them.

    July 3rd 2021
    https://www.rte.ie/sport/cricket/2021/0703/1232864-robinson-can-resume-england-career-after-
    June 9th 2021
    https://www.rte.ie/sport/cricket/2021/0609/1227073-england-cricketers-committed-to-improving-as-people/
    june 6th 2021
    https://www.rte.ie/sport/cricket/2021/0606/1226385-robinson-suspended-for-historic-racist-sexist-posts/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Lol, you found the cricket section on rte sport I see. Fair play to you, I never even knew they had one because I never click past the front page of rte sport and they absolutely never have England cricket stories as headline news items.

    None of those stories you linked to are actually about cricket by the way, they're about a social media scandal. England have just completed both an ODI and a T20 series against Sri Lanka, see any mention of those on the rte cricket section? Why do you think anyone in Ireland cares about England's preparations for their upcoming Pakistan series if they don't even want to read about the team's recent results? It was a blatantly obvious editorial decision to push the story as headline sports news here because of its relation to covid rather than its sporting content.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain


    KaneToad wrote: »

    Are you questioning the ESRIs methodologies? If so, what specifically are they doing incorrectly?

    In March or so he was claiming that his surveys were indicating that a vast majority of the population were fully complying with all restrictions. As in living like complete hermits, no going beyond 5km, no visiting friend's homes etc etc.

    His surveys have found that a majority of people think Micheal Martin has done a good job with the whole thing.

    It's hard to find anybody within the FF parliamentary party who thinks MM has done a competent job, but this lad has found a majority of them among a population who have been deliberately, for the sick pleasure and humour and career aspirations of individuals in NPHET and the cabinet, been abused, mocked, deprived of income and liberty, who have been repeatedly thrown scraps of hope on reopening only to have them taken away again (the pubs have now been snatched from us at the brink of re opening twice, once in August last year, then last week, plus closed on Christmas Eve when they were meant to open until at least New Years Day).

    If you have met any of these people I'd love to hear about it. Let's be honest, a lot of people wish they had died of Covid than lived through the last 15 months. What has been the point in even existing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,225 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    Pdoghue wrote: »
    As someone who broadly supports the concept of public service broadcasting, I've become increasingly irritated by RTE's coverage of the pandemic.

    There's now no question in my mind that ALL RTE presenters have been directed to take an editorial line that does not question the NPHET advice. I'm not necessarily being critical here, but how does a broadcaster like RTE with a public service remit provide balanced coverage of a pandemic? In a general election or referendum, it's probably easier to provide balance and equal time to all sides, but in a pandemic? How does RTE decide what's credible or not? But having said that, their assessment of risk in relation to Covid-19 seems to have become skewed far too much on the side of being ultra-cautious.

    RTE starts in the morning with Morning Ireland where Aine Lawlor and Mary Wilson's breathless hysterical coverage has become increasingly grating, in particular with regard to the Delta variant. There was an item a few weeks ago about an 'outbreak' from a party outside on the banks of the Shannon, and it was presented as a doomsday scenario with dire consequences. I'm not sure those dire consequences have materialised. The coverage presented by the likes of Claire Byrne and George Lee has been discussed at length.

    Where the coverage extends outside the current affairs department is where you can really notice the editorial policy. I was listening to Sunday Sport on Radio 1 a few Sundays ago, and there was a discussion between Darren Frehill, Jackie Hurley and John Mullane about the restrictions on fans allowed to attend the Clare v Waterford Munster championship match. Mullane was saying it was crazy that only 200 were allowed to attend, or maybe there were none allowed at all. The RTE sports presenters hummed and hawwed, and basically said that we must listen to the experts and that if NPHET recommended that attendance, then they must be right. So even the non-current affairs RTE presenters can't express a contrary opinion to the government/NPHET. It was quite revealing I thought.

    I made a similar point in the radio forum.

    RTE went from making a loss of €20m in 2019 to making a profit in 2020. The overriding reason was Covid.

    They had a massive jump in advertising (for the HSE) and had reduced overheads as there was no events to cover, no OBs, no Olympics, Euros, Champions League, Eurovision, hardly no new programmes made etc.

    That's why the presenters keep banging the same outdated message we've been hearing ad naseum for 16 months now.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Lol, you found the cricket section on rte sport I see. Fair play to you, I never even knew they had one because I never click past the front page of rte sport and they absolutely never have England cricket stories as headline news items.

    None of those stories you linked to are actually about cricket by the way, they're about a social media scandal. England have just completed both an ODI and a T20 series against Sri Lanka, see any mention of those on the rte cricket section? Why do you think anyone in Ireland cares about England's preparations for their upcoming Pakistan series if they don't even want to read about the team's recent results? It was a blatantly obvious editorial decision to push the story as headline sports news here because of its relation to covid rather than its sporting content.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/cricket/2021/0306/1201367-englands-batsmen-wilt-again-as-india-seal-series-win/

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/cricket/2021/0209/1195916-anderson-swing-leads-england-to-big-win-in-india/

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/cricket/2021/0125/1191891-england-seal-series-win-over-sri-lanka-in-galle/

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/cricket/2021/0118/1190373-england-claim-seven-wicket-win-in-sri-lanka/

    A small bit of research avoids all these unnecessary fact checks


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 jayp2020


    Forgive me for starting a thread if one already exists - I’ve read so many different threads and posts I’ve probably missed the obvious however...

    It seems everyone is waiting daily for the 6pm figures to find out the latest cases and deaths situation. It’s scary to see how every single media outlet in this country is putting all their attention on this (yes, gloom sells). Not just RTE, but the other stations and every single paper has the latest on the front page in some form or another.

    Contrast this to European media - search any of the national news channels or newspapers and you’ll find its never (usually) the top story. They are over the initial panic and are I guess realise they are in for the long haul with this virus.

    People here are only obsessed with three things; deaths, cases and the “R” number. I’m not a Statistician or epidemiologist but a few weeks ago when there was concern and hype raised over the R number increasing beyond 1 on the basis of 20 odd cases or so made me completely lose faith in the strategy of the government/NPHET. 10mins reading about R numbers will prove it’s not an effective measurement with low numbers yet this was peddled across the media.

    The fear-mongering of the Irish media is seriously starting to affect the mental health of the population - I’m sure everyone has witnessed it on a personal level either themselves or their friends/family. If you’re get stressed I highly recommend deleting the news apps, distract yourself around 6pm when you know the figures will be released, and try enjoy the last of the long days and sunshine because if the current media narrative continues, it’s going to be a miserable winter.

    Ireland needs to evolve from our sheepish culture and learn to think outside the box and make our own opinions of matters. The media need to tone down the hysteria and the government need to realise this virus is here to stay so have to start making some difficult decisions against the ultra-conservative NPHET advice to safeguard the country.

    Thoughts?

    Completely agree. We're so out of step with the rest of the world and we can't even see it anymore due to the insular, hysterical media coverage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    In March or so he was claiming that his surveys were indicating that a vast majority of the population were fully complying with all restrictions. As in living like complete hermits, no going beyond 5km, no visiting friend's homes etc etc.

    His surveys have found that a majority of people think Micheal Martin has done a good job with the whole thing.

    It's hard to find anybody within the FF parliamentary party who thinks MM has done a competent job, but this lad has found a majority of them among a population who have been deliberately, for the sick pleasure and humour and career aspirations of individuals in NPHET and the cabinet, been abused, mocked, deprived of income and liberty, who have been repeatedly thrown scraps of hope on reopening only to have them taken away again (the pubs have now been snatched from us at the brink of re opening twice, once in August last year, then last week, plus closed on Christmas Eve when they were meant to open until at least New Years Day).

    If you have met any of these people I'd love to hear about it. Let's be honest, a lot of people wish they had died of Covid than lived through the last 15 months. What has been the point in even existing?

    Ok, so you don't understand how surveys work.
    You're confusing your opinion/your mates opinions with that of a representative sample of the Irish population.

    It's similar to the phenomenon where people insist that SF should really be in charge despite 75% of the electorate not voting for them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    jayp2020 wrote: »
    Completely agree. We're so out of step with the rest of the world and we can't even see it anymore due to the insular, hysterical media coverage.

    Just had a look at Le Monde (France) online there. They have an entire section with 19 stories over the past 24 hours, just on C19. Then another section dedicated entirely to vaccines with over 20 stories. Lots of worried politicians and experts.

    On to Der Spiegel (Germany) and the top 4 stories are C19. Another wave, vaccines, people in power are worried. Experts are worried.

    El Pais (Spain) top 5 stories are C19. Pressure on hospitals, experts worried, people asking to government to REINTRODUCE restrictions.

    La Republicca (Italy) C19 top story.

    That’s just Europe. Hysterical obviously.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Just had a look at Le Monde (France) online there. They have an entire section with 19 stories over the past 24 hours, just on C19. Then another section dedicated entirely to vaccines with over 20 stories. Lots of worried politicians and experts.

    On to Der Spiegel (Germany) and the top 4 stories are C19. Another wave, vaccines, people in power are worried. Experts are worried.

    El Pais (Spain) top 5 stories are C19. Pressure on hospitals, experts worried, people asking to government to REINTRODUCE restrictions.

    La Republicca (Italy) C19 top story.

    That’s just Europe. Hysterical obviously.

    The real hysteria are those hysterical voices shouting hysteria


  • Registered Users Posts: 710 ✭✭✭TefalBrain


    RTÉ getting desperate to wheel out anyone who'll pump the doom angle now the end is near. The wet fart that is the Delta variant has hit them hard


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 jayp2020


    I have a good friend living on the Costa, another in Barcelona and the situation is very, very different there now, life going on as normal, pubs and nightclubs open and very few restrictions.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    jayp2020 wrote: »
    I have a good friend living on the Costa, another in Barcelona and the situation is very, very different there now, life going on as normal, pubs and nightclubs open and very few restrictions.

    Can be handy sometimes to keep abreast of the news

    https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210706-spain-s-catalonia-region-reimposes-covid-19-restrictions-as-cases-spike


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  • Registered Users Posts: 710 ✭✭✭TefalBrain


    jayp2020 wrote: »
    I have a good friend living on the Costa, another in Barcelona and the situation is very, very different there now, life going on as normal, pubs and nightclubs open and very few restrictions.

    Most developed counties are just getting on with it now and then there is Ireland, concerned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 jayp2020


    lol, yeah they've brought in some new local restrictions as of this evening - negative pcr tests required for gatherings of more than 500 etc. - no I don't check the Spanish news on the hour - you're kind of missing the point here, even with some new local, regionally-specific controls don't you see just how completely different it all is from Ireland??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    jayp2020 wrote: »
    lol, yeah they've brought in some new local restrictions as of this evening - negative pcr tests required for gatherings of more than 500 etc. - no I don't check the Spanish news on the hour - you're kind of missing the point here, even with some new local, regionally-specific controls don't you see just how completely different it all is from Ireland??

    We all have friends living in normal countries, those who don't need only look at their tellies with packed stadiums everywhere to get an inkling we might be doing something wrong....

    The problem is too many of us can't bring ourselves to admit we are a shambles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭mcsean2163


    Friend in the states saying everything open. Just checked

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/states-reopen-map-coronavirus.html

    Looks like he's right.

    We've over 20% unemployment in Ireland now including pup. Doesn't seem to be much Tal about that...


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 jayp2020


    We all have friends living in normal countries, those who don't need only look at their tellies with packed stadiums everywhere to get an inkling we might be doing something wrong....

    The problem is too many of us can't bring ourselves to admit we are a shambles.

    and Nphet/govt (in my view it's all the one) can't bring themselves to admit they over-reacted and have backed themselves into a corner. Remember March 2020 when we couldn't go beyond 2k of home...guards were parked at the top of my estate checking people going in and out in case we might bring in the virus...Jeepers when I think of it now it's like a crazy alternate reality. Hysterical over-reaction doesn't even begin to cover it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,480 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    TefalBrain wrote: »
    Most developed counties are just getting on with it now and then there is Ireland, concerned.

    Starting to think will it ever end. Not a peep about ever stopping wearing masks, social distancing etc. What the hell are they testing a few hundred people at GAA games and that godawful concert held a few days ago. It's like they're preparing for this to go on indefinately...without so much as a whimper from mainstream media. Just more threats of lockdowns, variants and whatever else they can make up to keep the fire burning. Is anyone asking when it'll end? Will it end when all the good boys and girls get vaccines, like fck it will...they'll invent something else.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    jayp2020 wrote: »
    I have a good friend living on the Costa, another in Barcelona and the situation is very, very different there now, life going on as normal, pubs and nightclubs open and very few restrictions.


    The clubs are closing next week. They were operating at 50% capacity, masks obligatory on dance floor, was illegal NOT TO WEAR A MASK OUTSIDE up until last week. But yeah, normal.

    And now their cases are surging, hospitals already under pressure in first week of July, almost certainly going to have to lock down again.

    Something we won’t need to do if the government don’t bend to the will of the small but vocal minority of ardent indoor diners, most of whom I’m sure dined exclusively in the nearest greasy spoon, or as a treat, the local carvery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    RTE back to form with the India craziness. I love this game. If something suits the fear agenda, you get to stoop to using some 'study' thrown about by a casual research group. Totally legit.

    But anything of that nature pointing the other way gets dismissed as a nutjob conspiracy theory. We are instead redirected to the official figures.

    Think about how nuts this claim below is. They are basically saying that 9 out of every 10 Covid cases was hidden/forgotten/set aside for a later date by doctors, but somehow later disclosed to the study group or the WHO or whoever. Hilarious reaching.

    And again an utter refusal in the case of a populous developing nation to refer to any kind of denominator with their figures. High absolute figures are much scarier.

    The truth when denominators are added to the reckoning is that India is not even in the top 100 of Covid-stricken countries.

    The most galling thing for RTE and the agendaists now is normality in Britain. Very interesting to watch their selective handing of that. Be prepared for some shameless cherrypicking.




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    I had a good chuckle at reading the RTE website and they talk of Portugal going under curfew. I was inside a pub reading it at the time. Hysterical



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,330 ✭✭✭Archeron


    I got really annoyed when Catriona Perry was interviewing gerry Killen recently. He was giving numbers, as he does, and she looked to him and said, so is the delta variant what's keeping you up at night?

    He didn't say anything was keeping him up at night, those are your words ms newscaster, not his. I guess he wasn't scary enough so she had to up the ante a bit.

    Is it time to crack open each other's heads and feast on the goo inside?



  • Registered Users Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Pdoghue


    That's funny. I guess they had Killeen on because he's so extremist and alarmist in his views, and they hoped that would be conveyed to the viewers. it sounded like he was relatively calm, but the RTE presenter tried nevertheless to pre-empt him into being sensationalist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Why don't you load up the RTE Sport Cricket section there again and let me know how the replacement England side got on in their 3 match ODI series against Pakistan? The same series the RTE sports department thought was headline news worthy three weeks ago 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,823 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    RTE have stopped covering the UK situation it seems. They've barely mentioned our neighbours for the last couple of weeks. Why so I wonder? 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    I’d be interested to see RTEs ratings of late. With a lower level of fear amongst the public coupled with looser restrictions there surely has to be fewer people tuning in for the numbers and the daily marination of fear and anxiety.

    RTEs Achilles heel has always been producing entertaining and escapist television capable of making people laugh and feel good.

    Without Covid they’re like a upturned turtle.

    I’m sure we’ll be treated to a country music Late Late special as a reward for the last 16 months.



  • Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭iffandonlyif


    Can’t be bothered wading through the nonsense, but welcome to the club, OP. Between coronavirus denial and lockdown fanaticism, there is a sensible middle-ground that is almost completely silent in Ireland.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,599 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,773 ✭✭✭brickster69


    They won't mention that, team GB number 1 in Europe in that as well

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain



    Collapsing case numbers, sure who wants to hear that.


    The Irish establishment also can't stand that Boris was right on Brexit, schooled the EU on vaccine roll out, called Freedom Day at the right time etc etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Solobally8




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    If you lads ever decide to make your anger more visible, be sure to get the right building

    https://twitter.com/daraobriain/status/1424747257585442818?s=19



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Anthony Staines appears in the media more often than James Corden.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,823 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Headline on RTE this morning:

    "Number of Covid-19 patients in hospitals increases"

    At this stage how the **** do they not realise that there are few (if any) discharges on the weekends? How are these people journalists?

    Clowns



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart



    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭TP_CM


    Why is that? Because the consultants who discharge patients normally work Mon-Fri or what?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Are you questioning the ESRIs methodologies? If so, what specifically are they doing incorrectly?

    I venture it might be a good place for the ordinary folk to start ?

    The past 18 months has largely been about ordinary folk NOT being seen to,or facilitated to question,ANYTHING to do with the Covid response topic.

    Even here on Boards,the home of open discourse & discussion,conversations inevitably were guided to the need for "Everybody to pull together" as "we are all in this together" and other suitable National Emergency tones.

    I would question whether the Representative groups as described by our Statistician de jour,were drawn form the ranks of the already decidedly compliant and from those with a predeliction for ensureing Everybody else complied as well ?

    I have little interest either way,as the ESRI,being inexorably linked with established Irish Politics,can hardly be expected to swim against an overwhelming National Health Emergency current,given that the 587 ICU beds sought in 2009,have yet to materialise........I wonder would the ESRI bother asking de Publik about that ?


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,823 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    I believe that's the case, there are often a lot of discharges on Mondays as a result



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,599 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    "...The past 18 months has largely been about ordinary folk NOT being seen to,or facilitated to question,ANYTHING to do with the Covid response topic..."

    Hardly. About *0% of all forums and 90% is all abut questioning all of it. Its just a endless flow of everyone and their brother having an opinion on something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain


    A professor on RTE tonight claiming, unchallenged, that 10% of Covid cases in children will become Long Covid.


    Completely and utterly false, but let broadcast unchallenged.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Apologies, don't know how to select a section of a quote...

    Anyways, you are claiming that the sampling methodology of the ESRI is not representative. Quite the claim. What are you basing this on? Solely the fact that you/your family & friends don't agree with the poll results?



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    Gerry Killeen was at it at Easter time on Pravda saying basically every child was going to be wiped out if schools reopened.went unchallenged and still unchallenged by our so called media



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    No Family,No Friends...just myself.

    Thankfully one can still have a difference of opinion on these things without fear of arrest etc.....for now at least 😉


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That's not a difference of opinion. That's published data vs opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    In order for what you're saying to be an "Opinion", you must have collected all relevant data, processed that data, and come to a reasonable conclusion.

    If you haven't done this, and are just making statements based on nothing, then you don't have an opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart



    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭zebastein


    I was listening the news this morning at the radio and heard this:


    "If we continue to see a rise in Covid numbers over the next two or three weeks, I think we won't be in a position to ease restrictions any further, and that will have to wait another two or three weeks," Dr Favier said. "It's going to come down to our personal behaviours and what we do now." She said restriction easing may have to wait until schools, universities and third-level institutions reopen.

    I was a bit schocked that she stated this as a fact as if this doctor was part of the government and was deciding anything about what the country will and will not do.

    Obviously nothing scientific, no numbers of what is an acceptable rise or any scientific explanation or prediction, just a politic statement that this person has decided what will happen and what is the best for the country. The radio did not spend time explaining who they were interviewing, so all of a sudden there is a voice of someone who is not at the core of the decision making process that tells the country what will happen, no question asked. So you listen to the radio and take it as a fact, though it is just a single opinion.



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