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On only half a million a week will take its toll on him.

Yup, Trillions of Dollars, four Presidents, and tens of thousands of lives lost all to replace the Taliban with ................

............ erm, the Taliban.

None of us are analysts, we get our information from the same media outlets so I'm curious as to how you came to this opinion or was it something you heard from the news. I know I heard Biden make these claims, but even CNN, MSNBC, ABC, Fox, Newsmax SKY (IOW both side of the political spectrum) are calling BS on varying aspects of these claims.

• Over the past 24 hours many news outlets and media (including mainstream like MSNBC, and smaller internet based sites like Dan Bongino) sources have been contacted by consultants, analysts, and whistle blowers claiming that Biden is outright lying. Their claims include:
• This withdrawal was poorly executed and plans that had been drawn up for months for a slower withdrawal were ignored.
• Afghan President knew days in advance to flee as he took personal belongings, cash, and valueable items in a private helicopter, then plane.
• The Afghan President was not the only one to flee with a large "paycheck". Top generals and officials also took their fortune and legged it.
• The Afghan army had lodged months and months of complaints and requests for fuel, ammo, food, and lastly their paychecks. How does an army fight when their leaders won't supply them and then abandon their positions and expect their men to fight on.
• A claim by an unverified Pentagon whistleblower (so taken with a pinch of salt) claims a document signed by Blinken which has as of yet not been presented to Congress was signed three weeks ago removing the intelligence and air support that was promised to the Afghan army/people.
• There is conflict within the State department and the Pentagon. One side in trying to land the blame for this excrement show on the doorstep of the other.
• A veteran named Matt Zeller was on MSNBC and lambasted President Biden for his speech and actions. Its online, should listen to it. Gives a different side to the claims.

Like I said above I'm no expert, and I doubt anyone on this forum or even site would be such. We have opinions and we're entitled to them and God knows from previous conflicts the Afghans were never an Army to be contended with, but to fold like they did seems odd, even with their history.

I utterly agree thata withdrawal was necessary, they couldn't stay forever, but with both sides of the argument agreeing the way it was done was so far from correct you have to wonder epecially given only 3 to 4 weeks ago Biden was on TV saying they absoutely would not see Saigon like images of people being lifted from the roof of Buildings. Took less than a month for it to happen. So they either lied about how advanced the Taliban were or ignroant of it. Neither are great scenarios.

Speaking of Biden, I didn't know he was a Mayo fan.

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No, just pointing out there are a lot of factors involved, not just lack of fight as claimed by Biden. 69,000 Afghan security forces (police, army, etc) died fighting the taliban over the past 20 years. Thats 20 times as many as NATO forces. Seems like an insult for biden to claim they didn't fight.

It also begs the question is some 70,000 Nato forces were in Afghanistan with such advanced weaponary and support of arms then why after 20 years did they leave with no "victory"?

You seem to be splitting hairs or looking for an argument. Afraid you won't find one [argument] here so I'll leave you to it.

Biden just keeps on digging, so much so that CNN, MSNBC, ABC and other "left leaning" media have even had enough and are calling him out on his lies, bulls**t, deflections, and excuses.

• He claimed there was no Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, yet the director of national security says there are and also isis.
• He claimed Americans can just go to Kabul airport as he has an "agreement" with the taliban. Yet ABC and CNN reporters in Kabul have witnessed, reported on and even been the subject of beatings, harrassment and shown other Americans having their passports taken form them.
• In the one on one he said what happened would bound to happen and could not have happened any other way. When asked why he didn't remove personel first, then affilitates, then those entitled (and vetted) to go, and lastly the military while using them as security, he gave a rambling, incoherent "answer" and drifted off to another topic.
• The Uk is not without blame in this, but given it was an American lead mission their sudden and unannounced withdrawal left the UK and other allies without anywhere to go. So much so the UK Parliment has held biden contempt for not only his actions but according to some MPs his outright lies regarding the Afghan army and their "unwillingness" to fight. johnson also got humiliated and rightly so.
• In his presser today biden said he has seen/heard no condemnation from allies about his actions. Can the man not read a newspaper, watch TV, or is he (and I mean this sincerely) being sheltered from the real world? Are people insulating him from what is really going on?
• Biden fumbled his way through a "one on one" interview and to think what they showed was the best bits is scary. He showed no remorse, no apologies, and little regard for those that died falling form planes, and are dying trying to escape. Also no regard for those left behind while once again lying about how easy it is for anyone who wants to leave, to leave.
• Biden refuses to answer questions instead opting for podium speeches, and then turning his back (not for the first time) and leaving. Press, even his previous supporters, are getting fed up.

One CNN reporter, in Kabul, when told that Biden said this was not a failure responded live "if they don't consider this an utter failure, then I'd hate to see what they do consider a failure". Thats CNN by the way.