Off-Topic Thread V3.0

Anyone any experience with vetroo? They have a white 240 AIO on Amazon for £60 and have 5 star reviews so they're tempting me a little:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08P5DBMG1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_dl_26YYBJ564KVTB3D0Z5B4?psc=1

I wouldn't bother, for the sake of 40 quid or so you can grab an h100i from Corsair or an arctic freezer and have a much lower risk of a dodgy aio pump or leaking and destroying all your components

Ya I'll probably just settle for the Auraflow 240 or a Galahad 240

Just wondering, so the past few weeks I've been pricing various parts for a new build, I only considered a Ryzen processor, and was also recommended Ryzen by others in their suggestions (initially I was thinking of 5800x but that was overkill and 5600x is sufficient for PC for gaming/general use).

The reason being that tbh I thought the current generation of Ryzens was supposed to be superior to Intel's lineup.

Out of curiosity, I looked up Intel chips today, seems their most recent generation mainstream is the i5-11600k, same number of cores and threads as the 5600x and slightly higher base clock speed (3.9 Ghz vs 3.7 Ghz)

Seems to have very similar performance to the ryzen chip from what I googled too, but it's £30 cheaper on Amazon (also has the added benefit of integrated graphics which at least makes the PC useable if I don't get a GPU straight away).

Is it worth considering this, or will the higher wattage negate the price saving?

For 5600x vs 11600k:

https://youtu.be/L0qaZ85CpUM

11600K will use 109W+ more than the 5600X in multi-threaded applications just to match performance.

Which means not only do you need a better PSU, but your cooling system needs to be beefy too.

Also, the 11600K has to lower clockspeed once more than 4 threads are active, going from 4.9GHz -> 4.6GHz. The 5600X can sustain its max core boost at all times (mine hits 4.7GHz all-core with ease).

Finally, the B550 motherboards are REALLY good for mid-range, e.g. MSI MPG B550 Gaming Edge WiFi / Asus TUF Gaming B550-Plus WiFi around 155eur which have all the features you could want and will run a 5600X at max boost all day.

Anyone know of a service like mailbox.de in Spain?

Edit: Found one, Shipping address spain

Have you considered trading in your GPU's and/or any other spare equipment you have into CEX for vouchers and getting a used GPU from them? Their prices aren't great for second hand but come with 2 year warranty and if you got a few quid off by trading in old stuff you might get a decent card for your needs.

Going for a new card the AMD direct lottery is the only show in town with regards to MSRP, unfortunately no Nvidia FE options directly available to Ireland. Some AIB cards are dropping in price but these are still well above MSRP as I'm sure you know

Really Bad Idea ? That's a bit OTT.

He'd possible get €100 plus in vouchers for the GPU's which he has but don't fit his needs and probably more if he had any other old stuff like phones/consoles just lying around doing nothing but gathering dust. After vouchers the cash outlay on a 1660 with the added bonus of a warranty from CEX could be less than the cash outlay on a card from adverts .

He could of course try to sell his current GPU's and offset any cash made against the cost of a second hand card from adverts but that could take some time.

CEX is quick and painless, they'll do online buying if a store isn't near you. They provide you with a tracked prepaid insured postage label for anything you're sending into them and will return it free of charge if you're not happy with the final offer.

They're by no means cheap but it's possible to get good product with warranty from them for little or no cash outlay if you've stuff to trade. I've traded thousands of euro worth of stuff to them I'd never be able to sell due to time constraints or limited demand. It may not be an option for all but for some it will, it's certainly not a bad idea to consider using them.