Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Sounds like he's in opposition to me 😁

At least he's finally raising it, he'll probably get chastised by some of his cabinet colleagues for even mentioning it and going against the narrative NPHET want to show. It's especially important now because vaccinated people are now showing up in hospital numbers which is scaring a lot of older people. It would be great if it could be shown that a lot of these vaccinated people are in there for other reasons and their covid symptoms are mild.

Only asking for this now... This should have been asked for a year ago

It makes sense to have visibility on both, acute CoViD patients who need active in-hospital treatment and those being treated for something else but needing isolation because of a coincidental but not needing treatment CoViD infection, so there is visibility on the overall impact on hospital resources.

How much information does the general public need before information overload makes it difficult to see the wood for the trees?

But he's not Taoiseach and getting to this point might have taken a level of persuasion of Martin. There are at least 3 wings in government, the worriers in the Martin camp, those more open to looking more closely at what NPHET says with Leo and then a flip-flopping bunch who mostly can't make up their minds.

Someone with a broken arm or leg wouldn't have been included as they would be treated as an outpatient.

Inpatients being treated for something else who coincidentially had very mild or asymptomatic CoViD would have only contributed a small error to the reported figures.

Mark Cagney is what my Dad would refer to as an amadán , an eejit .

No - this came up months ago also, and some figures were available for a time about hospital acquired infection and hospital admissions with infection. The figures showed a substantial number of "covid patients" tested positive after admission, but were listed as covid patients in general reports. No doubt same is happening now.

As virus becomes more prevalent (higher cases), people who admit to hospital for other reasons are more likely to test positive simply because the virus is circulating in the community. It doesnt mean they were admitted with covid, or that they need covid specific treatment. There absolutely needs more transparency on this as it should drive govt response.

Sure there's contradictions everywhere in government policy

Just this weekend, we sat dining outside a guesthouse while the bar and restaurant inside were full of residents enjoying themselves. Of all ages and unknown vaccination status..

It's a complete clownshow.

The only angle that makes sense to me is a puritanical anti alcohol position that seeks to reduce alcohol consumption for as long as possible.

That is not true for Connolly Blanchardstown Hospital.

nobody tested for Covid in A+E.

Interesting statement regarding the Saolta hospital group:

”Tony Canavan, CEO of the Saolta Hospital Group, told RTÉ's Morning Ireland last week that "nearly all the [coronavirus] cases" in the group's hospitals "are being admitted for other reasons" than Covid-19.”

“Of those that do test positive for the disease, "the majority are exhibiting mild or moderate symptoms".

I was in A&E recently, thankfully didn’t have to be admitted and was not tested for COVID while I was there