Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

One of the Republicans PR Agents going full bore with the 'accuse others of that which you are guilty' strategy.

Their reason for doing is pretty clever if you're of an immoral, selfish, 'power at all costs' mindset.

Messages won't convince any but the completely fully signed up hard right conservatives but what it will do is negate the message of Republicans who are actually guilty of supporting an insurrection.

Lots of people will put it down to 'both sides are at it' without actually peeling back the cover and trying to understand just who did what.

The way the republicans have handled this post January 6th commission stuff has been so stupid. They asked for and got what they wanted for the commission and assumed the democrats would say no, but they didn’t so then the GOP shat themselves and didn’t know what to do so threw their toys out of the pram.

I heard an audio clip that the Washington post have of an interview they did with trump in mar a lago in March of this year. The guy is in alternate universe lads. In addition to what he’s already said, he’s now claiming that native Americans(he’s called them Indians) were paid to vote which is just nuts. It’s not his lawyers fault btw, it’s his judges on the Supreme Court who he’s disappointed in, with particular disappointment for Brett Kavanagh. He thinks because he stood by Kavanagh during that whole mess with the allegations, that Kavanagh owes him, which kind of sums up trump.

It gets even stupider when you have to listen them bleat on about 'Law and Order' like it's a concept they are willing to die for.

Almost as if Trump operates on a "quid pro quo" basis after all... hmmmm....

Little does he know or care how much damage Kavanagh and crew are doing with their conservative majority.

But I guess it was really always Mitch's game, not Trumps

Trump obviously has no idea what a router is

In other news, Kinzinger (R) added to the select committee to Investigate January 6th capitol attacks.

Look he has just learned a new word. He said it lots of times so he would remember it. Next week or next year he will learn what a router is, don't rush him.

I would say the conversation went something like...

Mr Trump, its pronounced 'root-er'

Rooter? I barely touched her, you'll have to speak to Michael about that

At the same time he may have overplayed his hand as really knowing (roughly) what a router does is so basic to most people, including conspiracy theory people who would tend to use computers, that it may have been enough to put a seed of doubt into a few minds. He really wasn't getting much response from the crowd in the video.

A polite way of describing venality?

well does the speaker of the house have any authority over the Capitol Hill police and the metropolitan police ? I doubt that office for all its power has that power. I did see one of the GOP members of Congress blame the Biden administration for the events of January 6th which was some next level time travel. I’d love to know the logic behind an administration that didn’t take office until two weeks AFTER these events can be blamed.

I don’t know if any of ye remember the grandson of president bush 41(and nephew of bush 43) and son of jeb bush, George P Bush went out of his way to get an endorsement from trump, well today trump endorsed his opponent for the election in Texas. It just shows all these GOP politicians will prostate themselves at the altar of Donald trump for his endorsement, when if they’d any bit of self respect they’d realise it’s a one way street.

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"Just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me and the R. Congressmen," Trump said on the call, according to Donoghue's notes"

Seems like the stench of Trump's tenure is seeping out.

Sickening if corroborated.

EDIT:still, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58020969

"The US justice department has ordered the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to hand over former President Donald Trump's tax returns to Congress."

well Trump supporters think the Clinton’s/Obama’s/Bidens are inter dimensional paedophiles so from their point of view Trumps alleged crimes pale in comparison.

I haven't been following this thread for some time now, having stayed away from CNN and other news channels for actual trustworthy info as I thought some hosts on the channels were straying towards Fox News bias-style behaviour in an anxiety to push back against some Fox News hosts pronouncements. I had in mind the CNN "Situation Room" news show as it seemed too close to the scary expression "The Situation Room" used for years by networks on national/international events.

WaPo has a story that the judge hearing the DOJ case against info-wars host Jonathan Owen Shroyer [Alex Jones media outlet] is asking the DOJ to explain its charging decision. The WaPo story has prosecutors saying guidelines involving media were followed involving the charging [I assume this references info possibly being given to the media in advance of the charging]. in other U.S annual events, the NRA has cancelled their meeting in Texas this year. I take it that complications have set in within the NRA on it's policy of holding public mass crowd events. On the right 0f U.S citizens to vote, a court has ruled that South Carolina must allow former felons vote.

I've been wondering what sort of working relationship the CPD has with the GOP elected members of both houses, whether it's mostly cordial but distant or like any with the staunch inhouse 2nd amendment rights members.

On the issue of Trump lawyers, a Detroit area federal district judge has ruled that the lawsuits filed by lawyers to overturn his electoral loss in Michigan were not about legal issues but were political stunts to undermine the integrity of the election AND has referred the lawyers [the Kraken lady and one other] for disbarment.

I'm not sure what to make of this, whether it's a real misunderstanding between Roger Stone and the organizers of a site [GETTR] he's been publicizing on OR fake newsing by Mr Stone for attention. Mr Stone had some strong words to say about his being "suspended" from the site, which also had a large number of fake Roger Stone accounts. Mr Stone used another platform [GAB] to post this: “If you were under the illusion that the new social media website GETTR set up by Mueller informant Steve Bannon and his criminal confederate Jason Miller does not engage in censorship perhaps you can explain why they just suspended my account,” Stone declared, before taking several other shots at both Bannon and Miller.

In another post, Stone complained that Gettr was “allowing multiple Roger Stone imitators to continue posting,” and said Bannon and “buttboi” Miller would soon “sleep with the fishes, figuratively speaking of course” – though he did not elaborate.

Mr Miller responded: In a statement to the media, Miller said that “multiple fake Roger Stone accounts were suspended following user complaints, but his real Gettr account was inadvertently suspended too.”

“His correct account is currently active, and the imposter accounts have all been removed,” he said.

Isn't it the point of these sites to allow "uncensored" right wing discussion? If a million people want to pretend to be Roger Stone to do so, does it matter?

I'm guessing it's really more about getting control of the censor stick themselves.

Congressman Kevin McCarthy has decided to reuse the William Barr playbook and is claiming that the FBI have cleared the former president of all responsibility for what happened on January 6th which I’ll admit I’ve tried to not follow everything surrounding trump since he left office, but have the FBI made any statement remotely close to that in the past eight months ?