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Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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  • Quin_Dub wrote: »
    I've said this before , but a key difference is that we are hearing ABOUT Trump , but we're really not hearing a whole lot FROM Trump anymore.

    He is still very relevant in terms of the current State of the GOP and of course the multiple court cases and the recent exposure of the DOJ subpoenas etc.

    But what we are not getting is the constant barrage of his lies and obfuscation multiple times a day.

    The silence is good for the senses, even if his shadow still lies on the land and the GOP.

    I'm thinking that the fact so far in the breaking story of the Trump DOJ subpoenas that neither of Trump's Attorneys General nor the Deputy AG seem to have been involved with them makes it seem that some-one lower down the DOJ authority level was involved in the authorising for the subpoenas.

    With former AG Barr denying any knowledge of the subpoenas which [given his position] sounds like a implausible deniability excuse, it looks like some-one will be thrown under the bus - maybe already has tonight listening to CNN reporting on the early retirement of a senior DOJ staffer. An obvious question is who in the DOJ would place themselves in the position of giving the go-ahead for subpoenas without a permit from either Barr or Jeff Sessions, or the Deputy AG of the time to do what looks like Trump's bidding from a distance.




  • With reference to a report by The Daily Digest on the net that Jared Kushner has beaten Don Trump Snr to the punch with a "tell all" book deal, I'd like to know how reliable The Daily Digest is for new stories and their content reliability; is this likely to be just a story with nothing behind the headlines? There is no mention made about whom the publisher is to be.




  • Mike Pence is still in the sights of US conservatives as he was heckled and called a traitor at a Christian religious conference earlier today when he took the stage to address the conference. The hecklers, curiously enough wearing red baseball caps, were escorted out of the audience by police. The heckling might indicate a reduced vote for him to be a GOP candidate for the presidency next time around.




  • aloyisious wrote: »
    Mike Pence is still in the sights of US conservatives as he was heckled and called a traitor at a Christian religious conference earlier today when he took the stage to address the conference. The hecklers, curiously enough wearing red baseball caps, were escorted out of the audience by police. The heckling might indicate a reduced vote for him to be a GOP candidate for the presidency next time around.


    There's more chance of me becoming US President than Mike Pence. Traditional Republicans will hate him for hitching to the Trump Train, and Trumpsters hate him for stabbing the Orange One in the back. He'd be as well disappearing entirely and if he wants to, making a comeback in about ten years while hoping that people can't quite remember where they saw him before.




  • I wonder if Trump will now turn on DeSantis as he's no longer #1 or simply call it fake news and rigged election...
    Florida governor Ron DeSantis outstripped former president Donald Trump as a favourite choice for 2024 presidential contender in a straw poll of conservative voters this weekend.

    The Republican governor edged out Mr Trump with 74 per cent of voters approving him as a presidential candidate as against the former president’s about 71 per cent votes.

    The results of the polls which were conducted online using the approval voting method were announced during the Western Conservative Summit which saw 500 people attending it and tens of thousands of watching it live.


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  • Nody wrote: »
    I wonder if Trump will now turn on DeSantis as he's no longer #1 or simply call it fake news and rigged election...

    Trump will demolish any contender if he's still going!




  • Nody wrote: »
    I wonder if Trump will now turn on DeSantis as he's no longer #1 or simply call it fake news and rigged election...

    In Florida even, where Trump is now domiciled. Has Trump done something to annoy his base there?




  • PropJoe10 wrote: »
    There's more chance of me becoming US President than Mike Pence. Traditional Republicans will hate him for hitching to the Trump Train, and Trumpsters hate him for stabbing the Orange One in the back. He'd be as well disappearing entirely and if he wants to, making a comeback in about ten years while hoping that people can't quite remember where they saw him before.


    Pence is so dull and lacking in personality that there is a very outside possibility of this working. But, in reality, I don't know why he'd bother. He's a political no-account and was virtually invisible during the Trump presidency. A presidential bid would go precisely nowhere. He would have to know that, surely, and you'd think he'd have had his fill after a mob broke into the Capitol looking to harm him and other assorted politicians the mob believed were against their beloved president. Has to be good money out there for an ex-VP as the chairman of some PAC or conservative think tank.




  • Nody wrote: »
    I wonder if Trump will now turn on DeSantis as he's no longer #1 or simply call it fake news and rigged election...

    If that's a new one its the second time its happened.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."





  • Rudi just lost his lawyers license in New York due to lying about the 2020 election results; I guess he can move down to Florida and take the bar exam there instead.


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  • Nody wrote: »
    Rudi just lost his lawyers license in New York due to lying about the 2020 election results; I guess he can move down to Florida and take the bar exam there instead.

    We can expect a "statement" from 45 any minute now screaming about how this is just another part of the Dem "witch hunt" against him.




  • I see that rudy or someone on his behalf meant to be in court over the dominion voting lawsuit.

    Oh if you haven’t seen it go watch general mark milley, the chairman if the joint chiefs of staff was on Capitol Hill yesterday along with the defence secretary lyold Austin and was asked a question by Matt gaetz and it went about as well as you’d expect for gaetz. Btw Matt gaetz either always looks like this or the guy isn’t getting enough sleep.




  • We can expect a "statement" from 45 any minute now screaming about how this is just another part of the Dem "witch hunt" against him.

    Not a peep outta him, he owes Rudy dollars, Rudy will be shat on by the Don.




  • jamule wrote: »
    Not a peep outta him, he owes Rudy dollars, Rudy will be shat on by the Don.

    Don will say its all lies because if Rudi starts singing (and I think he will) then Trump will claim the "deep state" has got to him.




  • Don will say its all lies because if Rudi starts singing (and I think he will) then Trump will claim the "deep state" has got to him.

    Absolutely, and then the Trump base will lap that up. We're in Jim Jones territory now when it comes to the Republican voter and Donald Trump.




  • Bridges burnt.... FORMER US VICE president Mike Pence has defended his role in certifying the results of the 2020 election, saying he’s “proud” of what he did on 6 January and declaring there’s “almost no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president.” Pence, a potential 2024 presidential contender, delivered his strongest rebuttal to date of former president Donald Trump’s continued insistence that he could unilaterally overturn the results of the last election, even though the Constitution granted him no such power.

    Pence, in remarks at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library yesterday, directly addressed those who continue to blame him for Trump’s defeat to now-President Joe Biden, who won the Electoral College on a 306-232 vote. “Now, there are those in our party who believe that, in my position as presiding officer over the joint session, that I possessed the authority to reject or return electoral votes certified by the states,” Pence said. “But the Constitution provides the vice president with no such authority before the joint session of Congress. “And the truth is,” he continued, “there’s almost no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president. The presidency belongs to the American people and the American people alone.” Pence said he will “always be proud that we did our part, on that tragic day, to reconvene the Congress and fulfil our duty under the Constitution and the laws of the United States.




  • NYT reporting that the Manhattan D.A. has informed Trump's lawyers that the organisation could be facing criminal charges in their inquiry. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/25/nyregion/trump-organization-criminal-charges.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

    Journo's currently circulating that an arrest could be imminent for the Donald himself.

    https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1408317135449899013?s=20




  • Jack1985 wrote: »
    NYT reporting that the Manhattan D.A. has informed Trump's lawyers that the organisation could be facing criminal charges in their inquiry. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/25/nyregion/trump-organization-criminal-charges.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

    Journo's currently circulating that an arrest could be imminent for the Donald himself.

    https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1408317135449899013?s=20

    Referencing both the New York Post and The Sun in a single post? They're hardly reliable sources




  • Jack1985 wrote: »
    NYT reporting that the Manhattan D.A. has informed Trump's lawyers that the organisation could be facing criminal charges in their inquiry. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/25/nyregion/trump-organization-criminal-charges.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

    Journo's currently circulating that an arrest could be imminent for the Donald himself.

    I'm refusing to get my hopes up until I see it formally announced that a warrant has been issued for him.

    All this 'could be' or 'expect to' is just newspapers trying to generate traffic on the story.

    I certainly hope it happens, I'm not at all confident that it will.




  • duploelabs wrote: »
    Referencing both the New York Post and The Sun in a single post? They're hardly reliable sources

    The Sun reference is related to an aspect of that post, not in reference to Trump.
    I'm refusing to get my hopes up until I see it formally announced that a warrant has been issued for him.

    All this 'could be' or 'expect to' is just newspapers trying to generate traffic on the story.

    I certainly hope it happens, I'm not at all confident that it will.

    Pretty much same sentiment here, I very much dread to see what reaction would occur to a DJT arrest too in the US domestically.


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  • Gotta hand it to the sun, they know their audience. The picture they choose is absolutely perfect for their needs :D

    The New York Post article thing is interesting if only for the reason that that particular publication would be considered a pro trump one all things considered.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."





  • Jack1985 wrote: »
    NYT reporting that the Manhattan D.A. has informed Trump's lawyers that the organisation could be facing criminal charges in their inquiry. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/25/nyregion/trump-organization-criminal-charges.html?

    The legal eagles asked for estimates by CNN on what is going on there is that some of the Trump employees might have been partly paid in a payment in kind manner with gifts instead of regular taxable salaries without the gifts being declared.




  • I'm refusing to get my hopes up until I see it formally announced that a warrant has been issued for him.

    All this 'could be' or 'expect to' is just newspapers trying to generate traffic on the story.

    I certainly hope it happens, I'm not at all confident that it will.

    Like most businesses and organised crime if set up correctly trump should be isolated in relation to tax evasion and other forms of fraud. Also like an investigation into a organised crime syndicate, they need Weisselberg to turn and spill for it to have any affect on trump,. Unless Weisselberg thinks trump is going to throw him under a bus*, or the district attorney’s office can prove enough that Weisselberg will see serious prison time along with financial loss, I don't think he will.

    * trump will throw him under the nearest bus as soon as he thinks he needs to, why break the habit of a lifetime.




  • DubInMeath wrote: »
    Like most businesses and organised crime if set up correctly trump should be isolated in relation to tax evasion and other forms of fraud. Also like an investigation into a organised crime syndicate, they need Weisselberg to turn and spill for it to have any affect on trump,. Unless Weisselberg thinks trump is going to throw him under a bus*, or the district attorney’s office can prove enough that Weisselberg will see serious prison time along with financial loss, I don't think he will.

    * trump will throw him under the nearest bus as soon as he thinks he needs to, why break the habit of a lifetime.

    I think Trump is close to zero concerned about this. Did he allude to it at all in his recent rally and media appearances?

    If he was concerned, he'd be calling it a witchhunt and would have already started to undermine Weisselberg.




  • I think Trump is close to zero concerned about this. Did he allude to it at all in his recent rally and media appearances?

    If he was concerned, he'd be calling it a witchhunt and would have already started to undermine Weisselberg.

    Thought I might have heard of him calling this a witch hunt(but whenever I hear him say that I mishear it as "which cnut?")




  • I think Trump is close to zero concerned about this. Did he allude to it at all in his recent rally and media appearances?

    If he was concerned, he'd be calling it a witchhunt and would have already started to undermine Weisselberg.

    But it effectively means the end of Trump.org, this taking away that revenue stream. He can try and play it down but what kind of revenue will he be getting?




  • DubInMeath wrote: »
    Like most businesses and organised crime if set up correctly trump should be isolated in relation to tax evasion and other forms of fraud. Also like an investigation into a organised crime syndicate, they need Weisselberg to turn and spill for it to have any affect on trump,. Unless Weisselberg thinks trump is going to throw him under a bus*, or the district attorney’s office can prove enough that Weisselberg will see serious prison time along with financial loss, I don't think he will.

    * trump will throw him under the nearest bus as soon as he thinks he needs to, why break the habit of a lifetime.

    Big day today apparently with indictments. Hopefully I wont be disappointed and let down it seems that this orange buffoon can almost get away with murder.


    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/30/trump-organization-tax-charges-expected-thursday/5366841001/



    Trump might not himself be charged today but from what I hear once there are criminal charges placed on a company things can start going very bad for that company very fast, as banks and lenders start calling in loans fearing they wont get paid. And I am presuming that he wont have the means to repay theses loans so the Trump Org will go bankrupt again!......


    Regarding Weisselberg I think he knows too much... who has being buying all those condos for cash?? all that Russian money that Trump Jr was bragging about... Most people would say that normal people should have turned by now but would you turn on the Russian mafia..or spend a couple of years in court (he can an afford it) and then maybe only a couple of years in prison. All depends on the severity of the charges. If they are serious and he is not turning then he must know some SERIOUS S**T




  • Definitely a probability that Don will be ignoring Zvonimir Jurlina's YouTube video request to him to pay his trial legal fees over alleged burning and looting charges the FBI have laid against him over his Capitol activities. Jurlina's video: "I am a political prisoner. ... I can't get into any trouble. I can't do nothing bad. I can't do no drugs, no drinking to excess. I can't get into altercations with people. So, I'm a real American patriot. I would like to say, Donald Trump, please pay for my legal fees because this all happened because of you. Okay? How about that? And I did nothing wrong. Let's go. Let's go, I did nothing wrong.".




  • I think Trump is close to zero concerned about this. Did he allude to it at all in his recent rally and media appearances?

    If he was concerned, he'd be calling it a witchhunt and would have already started to undermine Weisselberg.

    The witchunt claim has already started (not that they have stopped since before the election in the first place)

    As other posters have said Weisselberg could well be up to his neck in this, so I think it will need the possibility of serious prison time and financial loss for him to turn, so you won't see trump undermining Weisselberg until he thinks it's going to happen.


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  • aloyisious wrote: »
    Definitely a probability that Don will be ignoring Zvonimir Jurlina's YouTube video request to him to pay his trial legal fees over alleged burning and looting charges the FBI have laid against him over his Capitol activities. Jurlina's video: "I am a political prisoner. ... I can't get into any trouble. I can't do nothing bad. I can't do no drugs, no drinking to excess. I can't get into altercations with people. So, I'm a real American patriot. I would like to say, Donald Trump, please pay for my legal fees because this all happened because of you. Okay? How about that? And I did nothing wrong. Let's go. Let's go, I did nothing wrong.".

    That reads like I can't do all the illegal stuff I love because I was stupid enough to follow trump, and now I'm going broke.
    My heart bleeds for them.


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