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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    markmoto wrote: »
    You don't have to. My recommendation for over 35yo who at some point decide to change lifestyle and go to the gym first time in years.

    And if you think 35 is random I am sure you can do little research. Perhaps start with bodybuilding.com forum.

    Full stop no further replies for the same question, sorry.

    If that’s your answer, I’m going to dismiss your opinion as nonsense.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    markmoto wrote: »
    People only hear what they want to hear. Your life your choice.

    I hear lots of things. Which is why it’s important to challenge all opinions and look for supporting evidence. You don’t have any, so what you say can be dismissed easily.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,432 ✭✭✭bladespin


    My orthopaedic consultant recommended recommended a higher rep range for joint health, she said 5-10 was fine, nothing like 20, she also said I could happily train until I didn't want to - age was not a limiter.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭calfmuscle


    We start to lose muscle mass from 30 years of age onwards.
    Weightlifting and resistance training is absolutely indicated and advisable to counter act this. To suggest you can't lift heavy (which as said is subjective) is ridiculous and frankly bad advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,139 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Brian? wrote: »
    If that’s your answer, I’m going to dismiss your opinion as nonsense.

    Fair play for not dismissing his opinion sooner. Some daft stuff written here the past few weeks.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Mars Bar wrote: »
    Fair play for not dismissing his opinion sooner. Some daft stuff written here the past few weeks.

    Sometimes people struggle to get their point across, but they have something worth listening to. Not in this case it seems.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,771 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Noted source of scientific literature, the bodybuilding.com forums.

    Makes a change from linking studies that they didn't understand and said different things to the point they were trying to make.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,771 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    new2tri19 wrote: »
    I don't ever remember my knees been so noisy , just squatting down or walking down the stairs it's like a series of small crackling sounds . Is this a side effect of weight lifting , it wasn't that bad before lifting. There is zero pain in any position . Does anyone else suffer from this ?

    I was with a physio for something else a few years ago and was doing a squat and my knees were like bubble wrap being trampled on. He said unless it's sore, there's no issue.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I was with a physio for something else a few years ago and was doing a squat and my knees were like bubble wrap being trampled on. He said unless it's sore, there's no issue.

    Conversely, my knees are silent and I’ve had 2 surgeries on the left

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,771 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Brian? wrote: »
    Conversely, my knees are silent and I’ve had 2 surgeries on the left

    My right knee is noisier than my left and it's the left side I tore my LCL and MCL on.

    So basically noisy knees are healthy knees.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,380 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    I was told about 12 years ago that the snap-crackle-pop noise in my right shoulder that comes and goes when I'm pressing was probably to do with cartilage, and that I should probably stop pressing overhead. Well, 12 years later, it still comes and goes, and still no pain. If the pain comes along in the next 12 years I will re-evaluate my position on overhead pressing I guess.

    I feel like there's content for a thread about misdiagnoses I have been offered by physios over the years. I think the most depressing was when a chap told me I was developing osteoarthritis in my hip. I think he must read the naked scepticism in my face, he kind of awkwardly trailed off and we finished the session in polite chit chat, half-entertaining the fiction that I was going to contact him to arrange for the multiple sessions of treatment that I "urgently" needed. Still waiting for that hip osteoarthritis to kick in. Maybe I'll get it when I'm 65 and he'll be like "I told you, mother****er..".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Cill94


    I was told about 12 years ago that the snap-crackle-pop noise in my right shoulder that comes and goes when I'm pressing was probably to do with cartilage, and that I should probably stop pressing overhead. Well, 12 years later, it still comes and goes, and still no pain. If the pain comes along in the next 12 years I will re-evaluate my position on overhead pressing I guess.

    I feel like there's content for a thread about misdiagnoses I have been offered by physios over the years. I think the most depressing was when a chap told me I was developing osteoarthritis in my hip. I think he must read the naked scepticism in my face, he kind of awkwardly trailed off and we finished the session in polite chit chat, half-entertaining the fiction that I was going to contact him to arrange for the multiple sessions of treatment that I "urgently" needed. Still waiting for that hip osteoarthritis to kick in. Maybe I'll get it when I'm 65 and he'll be like "I told you, mother****er..".

    Sad how many people (myself included) have had these experiences. To the extent that “go see a physio” as advice, can sometimes do people more harm than good.

    Only recently heard of one puncturing someone’s lung with a needle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭calfmuscle


    One of the biggest misconceptions people have is that arthritis or wear and tear equals pain.
    It doesn't.
    As long as you keep joints mobile and strong you can avoid a lot of pain despite what is seen on imaging.
    Orthos don't offer joint replacements because of what they see on imaging its based on the amount of pain a person has.
    Noises are meaningless unless there is pain with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 530 ✭✭✭new2tri19


    Sorry opened a bit of a can of worms with that question .thanks for the replies the consensus seems to be no pain no worry.
    The 20 rep suggestion for over 35's seems odd for many reasons enough that I'd have to discount it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭calfmuscle


    Is anyone else finding it hard to get motivated back in the gym? I'm just not interested anymore, but I normally love going and especially lifting!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,771 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    calfmuscle wrote: »
    Is anyone else finding it hard to get motivated back in the gym? I'm just not interested anymore, but I normally love going and especially lifting!

    Can't say I've found that. I did wonder if I would considering I've had to avoid squatting and deadlifting (avascular necrosis in the femoral head has left me with a lot of muscular imbalances to address) so training is very different and not really geared toward a goal of testing/competing. I thought I would struggle with that.

    But I'm a creature of habit anyway so I go cos it's the day i go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭calfmuscle


    Can't say I've found that. I did wonder if I would considering I've had to avoid squatting and deadlifting (avascular necrosis in the femoral head has left me with a lot of muscular imbalances to address) so training is very different and not really geared toward a goal of testing/competing. I thought I would struggle with that.

    But I'm a creature of habit anyway so I go cos it's the day i go.

    So sorry to hear you've necrosis, that must be tough!! And thank you for the reply!
    Well done on keeping up the routine. Maybe I need to do the same !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,771 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    calfmuscle wrote: »
    So sorry to hear you've necrosis, that must be tough!! And thank you for the reply!
    Well done on keeping up the routine. Maybe I need to do the same !

    It's more the APT and assymetrical hips because of it that I have to address the next while :)

    Now training is just a lot more bodybuildery and I've always felt having a quantifiable goal to aim for.

    But, if I just plan to go Monday, Wednesday and Friday I'll just go because without having to think about it. Might go another day at the weekend but kinda unplanned

    And I've always found training/working out to be like a form of mindfulness for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 530 ✭✭✭new2tri19


    calfmuscle wrote: »
    Is anyone else finding it hard to get motivated back in the gym? I'm just not interested anymore, but I normally love going and especially lifting!

    Yeah not so much the gym but I'm finding it hard to get back to the routine I and pre covid , this is the lowest amount of training I've done in years . But a closer look at my life I realised things have changed I haven't got the time I had previously mostly due to kids sports and hobbies , when I get home from work it's kids training the weekends are taking up with their matches. Then I've a toddler aswell so I just have to accept the limitations to training and that some days I'll be too tired to do what I want .
    So id say look at your life if your sitting around with nothing to do and don't feel motivated then maybe get a new plan or a goal .but if your just too tired from life Maybe don't be hard on yourself .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,586 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    calfmuscle wrote: »
    Is anyone else finding it hard to get motivated back in the gym? I'm just not interested anymore, but I normally love going and especially lifting!

    I'm very motivated to go - but weirdly enough (for me at least) I've had 2 sessions now where I get to the gym, start lifting, and just have no interest or motivation to finish. This morning was the second of those sessions. I just wasn't feeling it at all, stopped mid-set and just did a bit of cardio instead and went home.

    This type of things has never happened me before - now it's happened twice in the space of a week. Usually the battle for me is actually getting out bed and getting to the gym. Once I do that, the rest is (or was) never a problem.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Are there any higher rep hypertrophy routines people would recommend?

    On Westside for Skinny B*stards at the moment but 4 rounds in fancy a change


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,390 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    20 reps working sets. Jesus wept.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    I'm very motivated to go - but weirdly enough (for me at least) I've had 2 sessions now where I get to the gym, start lifting, and just have no interest or motivation to finish. This morning was the second of those sessions. I just wasn't feeling it at all, stopped mid-set and just did a bit of cardio instead and went home.

    This type of things has never happened me before - now it's happened twice in the space of a week. Usually the battle for me is actually getting out bed and getting to the gym. Once I do that, the rest is (or was) never a problem.

    thats a pity alright, I find it useful to write everything down as Im doing them and tick them as done. Also I incrementally add weight to at least one set so in my head going home I can say to myself did more than then the previous session, onwards and upwards yada yada

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  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Finding leg day a bit weird with my rack at home.

    Barbell squat
    Barbell lunges
    Barbell calf raise
    Barbell kneeling squat

    Basically a bar on my back the entire routine. Are there some obvious exercises I'm missing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Finding leg day a bit weird with my rack at home.

    Barbell squat
    Barbell lunges
    Barbell calf raise
    Barbell kneeling squat

    Basically a bar on my back the entire routine. Are there some obvious exercises I'm missing?

    If you have a Barbell stick it in the corner of your room and use it as a landmine, good for squats, RDLs, rows and pressing

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    silverharp wrote: »
    If you have a Barbell stick it in the corner of your room and use it as a landmine, good for squats, RDLs, rows and pressing

    Oh yeah I forgot all about that. Will buy a tennis ball to cut open and cover the end of the bar before next leg day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Oh yeah I forgot all about that. Will buy a tennis ball to cut open and cover the end of the bar before next leg day.

    why have I not heard the tennis ball suggestion before? :pac: I was using a bunch of tea towels but still managed to mark the skirting

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,875 ✭✭✭Patsy167


    Are there any higher rep hypertrophy routines people would recommend?

    On Westside for Skinny B*stards at the moment but 4 rounds in fancy a change

    Any number of great programs out there that you can transition to. Might be worth having a read through the descriptions here and see what catches your eye https://liftvault.com/programs/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Cill94


    Are there any higher rep hypertrophy routines people would recommend?

    On Westside for Skinny B*stards at the moment but 4 rounds in fancy a change

    Boring But Big

    https://www.jimwendler.com/blogs/jimwendler-com/101077382-boring-but-big


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Cill94 wrote: »

    Yeah did that earlier in the year, might do a few rounds of it, cheers.

    It's an enjoyable, simple workout

    I am an absolute **** for not pushing hard enough though


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