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Brian? · 21-06-2021 06:31PM

Cill94 wrote: »

I don’t personally use btn press but I wouldn’t say its inherently dangerous. It will just require some verrryyy light weights for most people in the beginning. Preference would be standing OHP though.

I didn’t say it was inherently dangerous. Risk v reward is the phrase I used intentionally to avoid that.

It falls under the category of not worth it.

21-06-2021 07:16PM

Because I'm proud of it, and I'm hammered, I was very happy to find out I can do five pull ups with my new half rack wearing gloves. Was always scared of them before and only tried in the gym after a full pull day and just failed. While waiting for the barbell, I've been doing those for the last week.

Friend gave me the band for free and my girlfriend is going to use that to get going. I used the band today for accessory chest work and it was really good. When I get the adjustable dumbbells, that will help a lot. And then for bigger pushes, I'll get the dumbbell rods that work with Olympic weights and buy some 1.25s, and more 2.5s and 5s.

Really like the home gym thing. My own music. No waiting. No one watching. Easy to experiment. Unlimited water. Play with the cat between exercises.

Dtp1979 · 21-06-2021 07:30PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Because I'm proud of it, and I'm hammered, I was very happy to find out I can do five pull ups with my new half rack wearing gloves. Was always scared of them before
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Fair play to you for overcoming your fear. I don’t think I’d have the balls to wear gloves lifting.

21-06-2021 07:34PM

That's actually a question I wanted to ask.. How long is too long between exercises?

Like today, I did flat bench, then overhead press, and then incline bench. All strength focused and I kept good time. After that, I relaxed for a while and went for hypertrophy stuff.

Is it ok to wait an hour or whatever, or should you bang out the entire workout in one go? Can I do low rep strength work before work and high rep hypertrophy stuff after work without losing much efficiency?

21-06-2021 07:36PM

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Fair play to you for overcoming your fear. I don’t think I’d have the balls to wear gloves lifting.

They were gifted along with the band for free. A good friend left Hanoi and he gave me a bunch of stuff.

atilladehun · 21-06-2021 07:37PM

Some people spread their workout over the day.

Dtp1979 · 21-06-2021 07:48PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They were gifted along with the band for free. A good friend left Hanoi and he gave me a bunch of stuff.

If a person gave me lifting gloves I wouldn’t consider them a friend

21-06-2021 07:58PM

Dtp1979 wrote: »

If a person gave me lifting gloves I wouldn’t consider them a friend

Well he only used for them for his kettle bells, and I only use them for pull ups on that bar/support beam in the photo, which is rough as all hell. Get what you pay for. Hard to find quality stuff here. Thankfully, my barbell is ok.

Black Sheep · 21-06-2021 08:04PM

Deleted User wrote: »

That's actually a question I wanted to ask.. How long is too long between exercises?

Like today, I did flat bench, then overhead press, and then incline bench. All strength focused and I kept good time. After that, I relaxed for a while and went for hypertrophy stuff.

Is it ok to wait an hour or whatever, or should you bang out the entire workout in one go? Can I do low rep strength work before work and high rep hypertrophy stuff after work without losing much efficiency?

Within a workout, I think there's some evidence to support the idea that you are almost as recovered as you will be once you are at the 3 minute rest mark. For very heavy sets though, I have rested 5 minutes. There are people in the Starting Strength community who have advocated for resting 5-10 minutes at times, but I feel that not only would you start to cool down, you also stretch workouts to impractical durations at that.

For assistance work then my rule of thumb is if it's something demanding I will still allow 2-3 minutes rest between sets.

For accessories at the tail end of a workout I will do 1.5 minutes rest. If I'm really in a rush I might do 1 minute or better yet superset the accessories.

When you talk about spreading the workout out over a longer period, there are a few things to think about. For your work sets they should be hard enough that you have to warm up to actually get to them. If you're spreading your workout throughout the day how does that square with that?

On some movements you might also be looking to go to failure, or very close to failure. It's hard to sustain that kind of intensity several times a day I would imagine. To get those all out work sets you also, again, probably have to ramp up to it beforehand.

Dtp1979 · 22-06-2021 06:18AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well he only used for them for his kettle bells, and I only use them for pull ups on that bar/support beam in the photo, which is rough as all hell. Get what you pay for. Hard to find quality stuff here. Thankfully, my barbell is ok.

I think my humour is lost on you. I was taking the piss out of lifting gloves. As Arnie once said, if you’re going to wear lifting gloves, make sure they match your purse

Brian? · 22-06-2021 07:45AM

Dtp1979 wrote: »

If a person gave me lifting gloves I wouldn’t consider them a friend

You're clearly not a break dancer.

new2tri19 · 01-07-2021 10:50PM

I don't ever remember my knees been so noisy , just squatting down or walking down the stairs it's like a series of small crackling sounds . Is this a side effect of weight lifting , it wasn't that bad before lifting. There is zero pain in any position . Does anyone else suffer from this ?

Mr. CooL ICE · 02-07-2021 08:39AM

By all accounts, noisy knees are not a problem unless there is also pain. Don't know the actual causes of the noise.

But if there is pain, best see a professional. Until then, there's no getting off the gain train

markmoto · 02-07-2021 08:48AM

new2tri19 wrote: »

I don't ever remember my knees been so noisy , just squatting down or walking down the stairs it's like a series of small crackling sounds . Is this a side effect of weight lifting , it wasn't that bad before lifting. There is zero pain in any position . Does anyone else suffer from this ?

This video below will explain better but if you're over 35yo I wouldn't recommend lifting anything too heavy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ccOa_xIQM

Brian? · 02-07-2021 08:50AM

markmoto wrote: »

This video below will explain better but if you're over 35yo I wouldn't recommend lifting anything too heavy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ccOa_xIQM

What do you mean by "too heavy"?

markmoto · 02-07-2021 08:59AM

Brian? wrote: »

What do you mean by "too heavy"?

If you're over 35yo and not train professionally doing less than 20 reps first set that's too heavy.

new2tri19 · 02-07-2021 09:24AM

That video was really good thanks , it seems no pain no problem thanks

new2tri19 · 02-07-2021 09:25AM

markmoto wrote: »

If you're over 35yo and not train professionally doing less than 20 reps first set that's too heavy.

Do you mean warm up with 20 light reps then start working sets ?

markmoto · 02-07-2021 09:33AM

new2tri19 wrote: »

Do you mean warm up with 20 light reps then start working sets ?

Sorry I mean First working set weight, if you cant do 20 reps or more that's too heavy for 35yo and over who never trained professionally.

silverharp · 02-07-2021 09:46AM

How you warm up is one thing, the other and more important side is building up more redundancy in this case knees so that your activities dont lead to knee pain

Cill94 · 02-07-2021 10:45AM

Joints can make all kinds of weird and wonderful noises. Not an issue unless you’re experiencing pain.

35 year olds can lift heavy. 90 year olds can lift heavy. Heavy is relative.

Brian? · 02-07-2021 10:54AM

markmoto wrote: »

If you're over 35yo and not train professionally doing less than 20 reps first set that's too heavy.

I would like to see your justification for this.

Because, IMO is a gross generalisation and nobody likes those.

markmoto · 02-07-2021 11:03AM

Brian? wrote: »

I would like to see your justification for this.

Because, IMO is a gross generalisation and nobody likes those.

Age-related changes in collagen.
Declines can cause ligaments tendons bones and cartilage to become less flexible and more brittle over time.

Brian? · 02-07-2021 11:07AM

markmoto wrote: »

Age-related changes in collagen.
Declines can cause ligaments tendons bones and cartilage to become less flexible and more brittle over time.

That’s correct. But why randomly pick 20 reps and 35 years old?

I’ve been training heavy for 20 years and see no reason to stop

markmoto · 02-07-2021 11:23AM

Brian? wrote: »

That’s correct. But why randomly pick 20 reps and 35 years old?

I’ve been training heavy for 20 years and see no reason to stop

You don't have to. My recommendation for over 35yo who at some point decide to change lifestyle and go to the gym first time in years.

And if you think 35 is random I am sure you can do little research. Perhaps start with bodybuilding.com forum.

Full stop no further replies for the same question, sorry.

Cill94 · 02-07-2021 11:32AM

markmoto wrote: »

Age-related changes in collagen.
Declines can cause ligaments tendons bones and cartilage to become less flexible and more brittle over time.

Yes, but that simply means that training has to be matched to their ability levels. No evidence to support the idea that older people can’t lift weights that are highly challenging. For an eldery woman that could be an empty barbell. It’s still heavy for her.

the baby bull elephant · 02-07-2021 11:33AM

Noted source of scientific literature, the bodybuilding.com forums.

markmoto · 02-07-2021 11:40AM

People only hear what they want to hear. Your life your choice.

02-07-2021 12:02PM

I really don't understand the "professionally" part. Like what I can workout for two more years and then bam I need to be able to do 20 reps of the weight because I'm not a soccer player or wrestler?

Black Sheep · 02-07-2021 12:09PM

Not only is lifting safe after 35, it is safe at any age provided it is approached in an appropriate manner.

I'd go further than just saying resistance training is safe, I'd say barbell training is safe. You can scale or modify exercises as required and be precise in terms of loading, sets, reps and training frequency.

I am laughing as I type this at the idea that many 35 year old are contraindicated from continuing - or even beginning - resistance training, but actually my experience is that even people 55 and up can do it safely.

There is no more potent way to improve strength, muscular endurance, balance and body composition than include resistance training in a fitness regimen.

The sooner someone begins the sooner they can address major issues for the older population around bone and muscle loss - particularly older women. It's crucial for encouraging independent living and resistance to accident and injury in an older population.

We're all on a trajectory of decline as we get older. Losing muscle mass, losing bone density, our cartilage deteriorating and various changes in hormones and endocrine function. But that's precisely why we should train, comical to suggest that the situation we are trying to mitigate should be the reason we are precluded from training.

What is lacking isn't even evidence that resistance training is safe and beneficial to populations far older than 35, what's lacking is precisely how to train them best, and long term outcomes.

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