Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh - thread 2.0

AhHaor · 14-06-2021 2:57pm

zg3409 wrote: »

Is this not covered under dealer warranty?

I just wanted it fixed and someone here advised it isn't covered. So I just got it done and paid for it.

Not always on in auto, typically 2 or 3 bars at 17.5C. And leave the heat button on. If o-rings perished then under rather than over use would be the issue. Anyways, apart from actuator issue not much else seems to go wrong with them so I'm not getting too annoyed!

turnfan · 14-06-2021 5:37pm

I'm surprised at EV owners who said on this very thread that range didn't matter / savings etc etc, all now upgrading, and handing over even more cash (or future cash) for bigger range (but often less efficient ) models.

Is the ID3 actually a better EV than the Ioniq, KWH for KWH? EUR for EUR? I'm not sure. I'd love to hear the honest opinions of owners of both. Leaving the "new toy" feeling to one side.
I know there is more to it depending on use cases etc

The more charging infrastructure improves, the better the classic Ioniq will get in the next few years, as it has that sweet spot of efficiency and fast charging.....well at least that's what I'm telling myself!

jprboy · 14-06-2021 5:40pm

turnfan wrote: »

.......
The more charging infrastructure improves, the better the classic Ioniq will get in the next few years, as it has that sweet spot of efficiency and fast charging.....well at least that's what I'm telling myself!

Constantly having the exact same conversation with myself ! :pac:

adunis · 14-06-2021 7:53pm

turnfan wrote: »

I'm surprised at EV owners who said on this very thread that range didn't matter / savings etc etc, all now upgrading, and handing over even more cash (or future cash) for bigger range (but often less efficient ) models.

Is the ID3 actually a better EV than the Ioniq, KWH for KWH? EUR for EUR? I'm not sure. I'd love to hear the honest opinions of owners of both. Leaving the "new toy" feeling to one side.
I know there is more to it depending on use cases etc

The more charging infrastructure improves, the better the classic Ioniq will get in the next few years, as it has that sweet spot of efficiency and fast charging.....well at least that's what I'm telling myself!

In my case very simple,and it's not the range thing if you've read my previous posts.

0%
It's costing me the same out going albeit with a 3year decision attached
100kW charging
I got 16k for my Ioniq from a dealer
160k of warranty vs.65k remaining
It's substantially faster,quieter,a bit more refined
I'm buying the boggy version cos I just don't see the value in the uppity models.
I'm still doing 36k a year.
I still have a 37year old and a 28 year old car for when I feel nostalgic.

Black_Knight · 14-06-2021 9:57pm

turnfan wrote: »

I'm surprised at EV owners who said on this very thread that range didn't matter / savings etc etc, all now upgrading, and handing over even more cash (or future cash) for bigger range (but often less efficient ) models.

Is the ID3 actually a better EV than the Ioniq, KWH for KWH? EUR for EUR? I'm not sure. I'd love to hear the honest opinions of owners of both. Leaving the "new toy" feeling to one side.
I know there is more to it depending on use cases etc

The more charging infrastructure improves, the better the classic Ioniq will get in the next few years, as it has that sweet spot of efficiency and fast charging.....well at least that's what I'm telling myself!

Range was my wife's reason we upgrade. Boot space was my reason we upgrade. We've driven outside of ioniq range twice now (in the id4), and one of those times we ended up stopped at a charger (but didn't charge) by happenstance. Don't get me wrong, the extra range is nice, but the storage cannot be emphasized enough. The "value" of the id4 1st over other similar sized EVs pushed me to get it sooner rather than wait until we couldn't live with the ioniq any longer. The smaller battery could of been an option, but the price difference between it and the 1st meant the 1st was totally worth it.

Nothing but praise for the ioniq 28 though. Smaller family or older family it's a great buy.

turnfan · 15-06-2021 9:42am

Interesting points, the boot space is always a deciding factor for me with any car, and the Ioniq had the best usable boot out of the options a few years back.
In some ways there is a relationship to range - i.e. the further away you drive, the more stuff you bring with you!

I guess I want to enjoy a good few years of no car payments and low cost driving before I'd consider any upgrade. As a father of very young kids, you can't travel too far anyways.

E-Niro probably being the next most sensible option.

Black_Knight · 15-06-2021 10:21am

turnfan wrote: »

Interesting points, the boot space is always a deciding factor for me with any car, and the Ioniq had the best usable boot out of the options a few years back.
In some ways there is a relationship to range - i.e. the further away you drive, the more stuff you bring with you!

I guess I want to enjoy a good few years of no car payments and low cost driving before I'd consider any upgrade. As a father of very young kids, you can't travel too far anyways.

E-Niro probably being the next most sensible option.

That was my plan all along, until I tried the boot. It didn't seem big enough to warrant the change. Maybe when we're buggy free it might be, but the way we seen it we would only have some of the same storage issues as we had with the Ioniq if we went with the eNiro. Nice car, great zip out of it, but glad we went with the ID.4 for the boot - a week up to my parents we filled the ID.4 boot (about 100l more capacity than the eNiro).

turnfan · 15-06-2021 10:40am

Black_Knight wrote: »

That was my plan all along, until I tried the boot. It didn't seem big enough to warrant the change.

That's really good to know, I guess the E-Niro is more comparable to the ID3 then. In any case I'll keep the Ioniq as car number 2. My wife loves EVs now, so the chance of us being a future 2 EV house is growing day by day.

irishgrover · 15-06-2021 10:52am

turnfan wrote: »

I'm surprised at EV owners who said on this very thread that range didn't matter / savings etc etc, all now upgrading, and handing over even more cash (or future cash) for bigger range (but often less efficient ) models......

My decision to change was based primarily on economics...
I spent €28k 3 years ago on the premium SE, and it did a wonderful job.
However I was concerned that the addition of all these new options on the market would have a very negative impact on ioniq re-sale value in the next year or two.

My trade cost me my ioniq + €14k. In return I got a very well spec'ed Soul demo that had been registered by the dealer 4 days previously and had a mere 9km on the clock. So dependent on what you value a 4 day old car at with no milage, I got what I think is a very good deal.

2nd consideration was convienence that going from highly efficient 28kW to less efficient 64kW still means that the vast majority of our frequent & less frequent trips can now be done without charging, which was not the case in the Ioniq.

Since we go it my wifes 530e has barely left the driveway.

Black_Knight · 15-06-2021 2:16pm

turnfan wrote: »

That's really good to know, I guess the E-Niro is more comparable to the ID3 then. In any case I'll keep the Ioniq as car number 2. My wife loves EVs now, so the chance of us being a future 2 EV house is growing day by day.

My wife suggested we keep ours as her car (2 car household), but since her car has been untaxed and sitting idle since August I thought we'd leave the lesser valued car (her existing one) deprecate on the driveway rather than the Ioniq. Don't get me started as to why we "need" 2 cars.

Petetheroadie · 18-06-2021 1:44pm

Quick question Ioniq owners - when you hold down the left Regen paddle, does it bring your car to a complete stop?

Silent Running · 18-06-2021 1:47pm

Petetheroadie wrote: »

Quick question Ioniq owners - when you hold down the left Regen paddle, does it bring your car to a complete stop?

Remembering back to my Ioniq, I don't think it does that. The e-Niro definitely does though.

Mickeroo · 18-06-2021 1:53pm

Petetheroadie wrote: »

Quick question Ioniq owners - when you hold down the left Regen paddle, does it bring your car to a complete stop?

No I think it just puts it straight into full regen, you still need to use the brake to stop.

Petetheroadie · 18-06-2021 4:10pm

Thanks both,

Yeah was just checking. Thought I saw something in the manual that said it was meant to bring the car to a stop, and it does on my wife's eNiro, but good to confirm it doesn't on the Ioniq

BigAl81 · 18-06-2021 5:21pm

Petetheroadie wrote:

good to confirm it doesn't on the Ioniq

It does on the 38kWh Ioniq, but not on the 28kWh Ioniq.

slave1 · 18-06-2021 6:39pm

Does on the Kona too

BigAl81 · 18-06-2021 9:26pm

BigAl81 wrote:

It does on the 38kWh Ioniq, but not on the 28kWh Ioniq.

It doesn't on my Tesla and it's one of the things I really miss after a few years in the Ioniq!

Still find myself pressing for the now non existent paddles ðŸ€£

23-06-2021 10:22pm

Has anyone here had a go of getting into the engineering menu? Quite fancy the ability to watch netflix whilst charging.

Am also perplexed that Hyundai don't allow OTA updates / ability to update at home and require us to get a Hyundai Dealer to download a .img file and follow the simple firmware update steps.

adunis · 24-06-2021 4:32pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Has anyone here had a go of getting into the engineering menu? Quite fancy the ability to watch netflix whilst charging.

Am also perplexed that Hyundai don't allow OTA updates / ability to update at home and require us to get a Hyundai Dealer to download a .img file and follow the simple firmware update steps.

Yep,look up Mr sonic spinner on you tube for the filelinks

loopymum · 29-06-2021 9:11pm

What's the latest software please? I'm finally able to get the car serviced.
I mentioned on the phone today about getting the latest updates and they were going on like it was going to be a right pain in the bum.

The actuator was giving gipa few ages ago and they are supposed to be having a look tomorrow but if course it has been working fine for the lady week or so arghh.
Any advice?

Black_Knight · 29-06-2021 9:35pm

loopymum wrote: »

What's the latest software please? I'm finally able to get the car serviced.
I mentioned on the phone today about getting the latest updates and they were going on like it was going to be a right pain in the bum.

The actuator was giving gipa few ages ago and they are supposed to be having a look tomorrow but if course it has been working fine for the lady week or so arghh.
Any advice?

If it's regularly not locking the cable in place, and they're being a pain about it, record it happening next time, then tell them there's a "modified charge port actuator" part they should order to replace your faulty one.

Not sure what the latest version is. Ioniqforum.com is a decent resource, you might get an idea from there. Hyundai hate updating the software, I believe they copy it from Korea every time so it takes an age.

loopymum · 30-06-2021 12:31am

Thanks blacknight

adunis · 30-06-2021 6:33am

loopymum wrote: »

Thanks blacknight

I'll have a look and see if I have a copy of my last update,I just download them and do it myself,cos Hyundai are universally @#*king useless.
If I find it I'll share it on Dropbox.

RonnieL · 30-06-2021 10:32am

Hi folks,

I bought a second hand 2018 ioniq last week, but the dealer realised before I collected it that it wasn't charging, and sent it to the hyundai dealer to have the actuator replaced. They told him that worst case the part would arrive on Tuesday (aka yesterday) but it didn't and now he's being told it "should" arrive tomorrow. I found the car through the ev bargain thread, and someone on there mentioned a workaround to get charging going if the actuator fails. Would that be an option for me while I'm waiting for the part to arrive?

Thanks!

adunis · 30-06-2021 12:43pm

RonnieL wrote: »

Hi folks,

I bought a second hand 2018 ioniq last week, but the dealer realised before I collected it that it wasn't charging, and sent it to the hyundai dealer to have the actuator replaced. They told him that worst case the part would arrive on Tuesday (aka yesterday) but it didn't and now he's being told it "should" arrive tomorrow. I found the car through the ev bargain thread, and someone on there mentioned a workaround to get charging going if the actuator fails. Would that be an option for me while I'm waiting for the part to arrive?

Thanks!

Try jiggling the charge cable while tugging the emergency release cable in the bootLHS rear under the flap ,chances are you get it to lock and charge,btw did I mention Hyundai are useless,believe the part will turn up when it does.best if luck with it they are an excellent car

loopymum · 30-06-2021 12:57pm

Is it easy to change out the 12v battery yourself? Took some readings last night and 12.12 without the car running. Dunt really want to pay main dealer prices.

ELM327 · 30-06-2021 2:04pm

That actuator is actually a warranty item AFAIK as its known issue

RonnieL · 30-06-2021 2:28pm

adunis wrote: »

Try jiggling the charge cable while tugging the emergency release cable in the bootLHS rear under the flap ,chances are you get it to lock and charge,btw did I mention Hyundai are useless,believe the part will turn up when it does.best if luck with it they are an excellent car

Thanks a mill for the reply. I don't actually have the car (never have), but if the part continues to be delayed I was thinking I could go and collect it, and use the workaround while I'm waiting. I'll see if the part does arrive tomorrow, but good to know they can't be trusted (I'd already started to sense that!).

loopymum · 30-06-2021 3:06pm

It's very easy to manually activate it. Just a pain

loopymum · 30-06-2021 3:07pm

I can stick up a video of it if you need it or there was a guide in the old thread

Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh - thread 2.0

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