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Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh - thread 2.0

  • 31-01-2021 9:56am
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 4,922 ✭✭✭ zg3409


    Coming in Next week the cheapest Ioniq Electric !!

    € 13999
    2016
    Fully Electric,
    Full service history, 98k miles
    Full NCT,
    Silver,
    Premium spec,

    Free Nationwide Delivery
    This is from electric autos.

    I would nearly downgrade from my 171 for the price difference. With 160,000km on the clock I would not be that worried still. I assume its a UK import.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 58,874 CMod ✭✭✭✭ unkel


    Very cheap! That just devalued all the 2016 / 2017 Leafs out there by a grand or two.

    "Wind is Ireland's oil" - An Taoiseach, 25/05/2022



  • Moderators Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭ Black_Knight


    There were 2016 ioniq EVs?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,922 ✭✭✭ zg3409


    There were 2016 ioniq EVs?

    Yes, probably 162, Main battery warranty until 2024 (8 years I think) but limited to 160,000km, so this car has none. You need to discount for this car compared to say 171 ioniq with 100,000km and many more years before new owner hits 160,000. 40,000 km average km covered per year since bought too might mean more wear on general parts, around 200km per weekday since new but new (first) nct and other warranty is 5 years and still valid. I would check all recalls done, but they can be done later under warranty. I would like to see if battery reports less than 100%, particularly if this was used as taxi in uk and routinely fast charged.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭ Kramer


    Seems all existing Ioniq threads are in level 5 lockdown :).

    Regarding the 162 Ioniq coming up for sale mentioned previously............
    zg3409 wrote:
    Main battery warranty until 2024 (8 years I think) but limited to 160,000km, so this car has none.

    I'm pretty sure the original Ioniq came with a 200,000km/8yr battery warranty, so it will have another 40,000km warranty left - probably 2 years for new owner.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭ Kramer




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  • Moderators Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭ Black_Knight


    10k posts! Impressive! Why did the 2.0 thread get nuked? Considering ioniq is going to be a range for Hyundai we should give this thread a better title.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 6,086 Mod ✭✭✭✭ liamog


    The problems with splitting posts from a closed thread, should be sorted now


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭ BigAl81


    liamog wrote: »
    The problems with splitting posts from a closed thread, should be sorted now

    Don't think we'll have any such problems with the 38 kWh thread ;)


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 31,030 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭ Mickeroo


    Battery dead again, went out to plug the car in for the night and it flashed the hazards and opened out the mirrors but didn't actually unlock the doors. So it's sitting on the drive now with the hazards on for the night. Not arsed jumping it in the rain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,907 ✭✭✭✭ ELM327


    That Ioniq from Phil is a bargain not seen for some time.
    If anyone asks me for a suggestion for an EV that's where I'll send them. That's a 2.0 gen EV for 1.5 gen (leaf 30) money.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 58,874 CMod ✭✭✭✭ unkel


    I actually secretly did some sums in my head, do I need a second EV? It's a tempting proposition :p

    "Wind is Ireland's oil" - An Taoiseach, 25/05/2022



  • Moderators Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭ Black_Knight


    Would it be coincidence that the day after the nct my car throws a "check electrical system" warning?

    Disappeared next time I started the car, but I'd assume this is the 12V being 4 years old coming into play. Last thing I want is to visit kearys and be told I imagined it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭ Kramer


    Would it be coincidence that the day after the nct my car throws a "check electrical system" warning?

    Hope they didn't over rev the engine during the emissions test :eek:. I've heard stories of how they blow up cars & destroy timing belts too :D.

    Probably the battery - gone cold enough again the last few days.


  • Moderators Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭ Black_Knight


    Kramer wrote: »
    Hope they didn't over rev the engine during the emissions test :eek:. I've heard stories of how they blow up cars & destroy timing belts too :D.

    Probably the battery - gone cold enough again the last few days.

    Funny it only alerted at the end of my within 5km drive. No sign of it since (5 drives later - today has been busy). If I thought there was any chance kearys would give me an electric courtesy car while they check it out I might book it in, but no doubt a) they'd have no electric courtesy car even though several sit in their forecourt, b) they'd have no courtesy car at all for another few weeks, c) they'd find absolutely nothing to report about the warning.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 58,874 CMod ✭✭✭✭ unkel


    Next time check the voltage on the 12V lead acid. Probably ridiculously low like below 12.2V ( which is lower than a lead acid should ever be)

    "Wind is Ireland's oil" - An Taoiseach, 25/05/2022



  • Moderators Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭ Black_Knight


    unkel wrote: »
    Next time check the voltage on the 12V lead acid. Probably ridiculously low like below 12.2V ( which is lower than a lead acid should ever be)

    I'll have a look in the morning (romantic day with me Ioniq), though the car is in charge tonight so the 12v will get a top up there. Only a few km in the tank this evening.


  • Moderators Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭ Black_Knight


    Skipped that. Had to run to do the shop today, so said I'd grab some free juice at Lidl... Or so I thought. 3 flashing lights. Error while charging. Could be the 12v again, though it charged for a couple of hours ok on the home charger last night.

    Too wet to investigate. Cuppa tea for now


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭ Kramer


    Too wet to investigate. Cuppa tea for now

    Time to get rid of it - all the signs are there - dissatisfied with your dealer, unreliable car - a scratch you need to itch................

    https://www.tesla.com/en_IE/inventory/new/m3?arrangeby=plh&zip=&range=0

    :P.


  • Moderators Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭ Black_Knight


    Kramer wrote: »
    Time to get rid of it - all the signs are there - dissatisfied with your dealer, unreliable car - a scratch you need to itch................

    https://www.tesla.com/en_IE/inventory/new/m3?arrangeby=plh&zip=&range=0

    :P.

    I'll just go check my money tree.

    The fault isn't bothering me. It's the 12v I'm sure. The dealer though, yeah, guaranteed disappointment when I visit them. Even now if my car won't charge, I know they'll do nothing to give me a replacement, only tell me to contact the AA to tow my car and then they'll miraculously have a replacement car for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,357 ✭✭✭✭ NIMAN


    The Ioniq on Deal of the Week looks the part, except for the upholstery.
    Its a 'premium' spec yet has that ghastly fabric design.
    What spec of Ioniq do you have to buy to get leather?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,754 ✭✭✭✭ emmet02


    Premium SE


  • Moderators Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭ Black_Knight


    unkel wrote: »
    Next time check the voltage on the 12V lead acid. Probably ridiculously low like below 12.2V ( which is lower than a lead acid should ever be)

    Checked it there after it sat up for a few hours. 11.8v. motorfactors gave me a new one (€84) and reading around 12.4v now. Old battery was reading 12.2v after the short drive there and back. I'll tip down to Lidl later and see can I get a successful handshake.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,209 ✭✭✭✭ KCross


    Checked it there after it sat up for a few hours. 11.8v. motorfactors gave me a new one (€84) and reading around 12.4v now. Old battery was reading 12.2v after the short drive there and back. I'll tip down to Lidl later and see can I get a successful handshake.

    If you put in a new battery you should get it fully charged up from a mains charger as you will find yourself in trouble again in a few days, particularly if the car isnt driving much.


  • Moderators Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭ Black_Knight


    KCross wrote: »
    If you put in a new battery you should get it fully charged up from a mains charger as you will find yourself in trouble again in a few days, particularly if the car isnt driving much.

    I'll be charging the car tonight, so the 12v should get a good charge from that


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,209 ✭✭✭✭ KCross


    I'll be charging the car tonight, so the 12v should get a good charge from that

    One overnight charge may not be near enough.

    Do you have a trickle charger? I'd put it on that for 24hrs if you have.
    If not, then definitely keep an eye on it, particularly if its sat in your drive for a few days not moving.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭ k123456


    I had an Alfa, battery was excellent after 14 years
    Ioniq, battery giving trouble after 2.5 years

    I would love to know the root cause of these battery issues

    Sub standard battery
    something draining the battery
    Battery not receiving adequate charge, while car is driven
    etc


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,209 ✭✭✭✭ KCross


    k123456 wrote: »

    I would love to know the root cause....
    Sub standard battery
    something draining the battery
    Battery not receiving adequate charge, while car is driven
    etc

    Combination of those. Mainly not being charged enough.


  • Moderators Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭ Black_Knight


    KCross wrote: »
    One overnight charge may not be near enough.

    Do you have a trickle charger? I'd put it on that for 24hrs if you have.
    If not, then definitely keep an eye on it, particularly if its sat in your drive for a few days not moving.

    Might do that so. I've a trickle charger alright, and likely the car will just be sitting idle in the drive for the week.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 58,874 CMod ✭✭✭✭ unkel


    Checked it there after it sat up for a few hours. 11.8v

    11.8V is ridiculously low for a lead acid, should never ever go that low. I'm frustrated and disappointed that Hyundai doesn't recognise this as a bug and apply a fix. They've had recalls where the charge port was replaced free of charge where I'd say 95% of owners never had a problem. This is just a software fix, just need to fix and upgrade the firmware

    Anyway, a brand new battery is not really a fix as KCross hinted. You will need to keep an eye out and check the voltage regularly

    "Wind is Ireland's oil" - An Taoiseach, 25/05/2022



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  • Moderators Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭ Black_Knight


    unkel wrote: »
    11.8V is ridiculously low for a lead acid, should never ever go that low. I'm frustrated and disappointed that Hyundai doesn't recognise this as a bug and apply a fix. They've had recalls where the charge port was replaced free of charge where I'd say 95% of owners never had a problem. This is just a software fix, just need to fix and upgrade the firmware

    Anyway, a brand new battery is not really a fix as KCross hinted. You will need to keep an eye out and check the voltage regularly

    Ah lockdown isn't helping. Car just get a weekly run to the shops and that's it. Once creches open up again that'll be a daily drive, and once the country opens up again there'll be trips here and there. Ideally upgrading car this year too, though anything over €30k is met with disbelieve from my wife. I agree the ID4 is damn pricey, but I don't see the alternative. <---- Talk for another thread.


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