Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings

Red Silurian · 28-06-2021 10:24AM

eigrod wrote: »

McConkey on Claire Byrne (a big surprise, I know) actually advocating a cautious re-opening next week. I think I need to lie down.

He would probably have access to todays figures on hospitals... Could be some good news coming later today

28-06-2021 10:25AM

Stheno wrote: »

Apparently they will make an announcement on reopening/not reopenjing tomorrow

Also if they delay indoor dining allegedly they will increase wedding numbers to 50 and up to four households can gather together

I'm not seeing that logic

At this point is anyone even adhering to the housholds rule anyway? If you asked 10 people on the street I'm not sure they'd even be able to tell you how many households are allowed to mix at once.

BringBackMick · 28-06-2021 10:25AM

UK debating bringing forward final unlocking despite rising delta cases which are not transferring into notable if any increases in hospitalizations

Meanwhile in Ireland we likely to delay opening restricted indoor dining

The caution has gone too far

Baggly · 28-06-2021 10:25AM

Mod

Engage in a civil manner or dont post. Respect other peoples point of view - there is no need for sniping. Thanks.

average_runner · 28-06-2021 10:26AM

Its time to move on, Europe has moved on.
Get people back out enjoying themselves, let us back into Croke Park this weekend

stephenjmcd · 28-06-2021 10:27AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

I suggest you read back on your OP, the childishness was infact your attempt to suggest I somehow resent easing of restrictions, you've clearly not a clue how the hospitality sector works let alone appreciate the hurdles it faces even after reopening.

I'll leave it that.

Even though you seem to have come up with that yourself because nowhere did I say you resent the easing of restrictions

Anyway I'm done won't waste anyone else's time with pettiness , have a good day

_Kaiser_ · 28-06-2021 10:28AM

Red Silurian wrote: »

He would probably have access to todays figures on hospitals... Could be some good news coming later today

I think the Government have to be aware that public support for a delay just isn't there. If even McConkey is advocating reopening then it's clear the tide has turned.

The only ones who seem to be complaining about that are those who are still texting radio shows to complain about what others are doing, or those who are completely unaffected as they're happily working from home and saving money.

M_Murphy57 · 28-06-2021 10:28AM

eigrod wrote: »

McConkey on Claire Byrne (a big surprise, I know) actually advocating a cautious re-opening next week. I think I need to lie down.

Ah here!

stephenjmcd · 28-06-2021 10:30AM

eigrod wrote: »

McConkey on Claire Byrne (a big surprise, I know) actually advocating a cautious re-opening next week. I think I need to lie down.

Is he feeling ok ? Perhaps he should be referred for a covid test just to make sure

M_Murphy57 · 28-06-2021 10:31AM

Stheno wrote: »

You said they said we could have 1000 cases by July 5th, not the end of July

"Abundance of caution" reason as usual I suppose?

I thought the comments by that NPHET person were more positive than I expected after your post

Do you interpret it as a positive? Ok, that's interesting. Maybe I'm just conditioned to assume anything rte print by anyone sciency is designed to frighten grannys.

Someone just posted that even Sam McConky thinks we should open so perhaps there is a tear in space time continuum and we might be on the brink of doing the sensible thing for once.

Stheno · 28-06-2021 10:32AM

M_Murphy57 wrote: »

Do you interpret it as a positive? Ok, that's interesting. Maybe I'm just conditioned to assume anything rte print by anyone sciency is designed to frighten grannys.

Someone just posted that even Sam McConky thinks we should open so perhaps there is a tear in space time continuum and we might be on the brink of doing the sensible thing for once.

Well he seemed positive about the impact of vaccines and lower hospitalisations as a result of delta

zackory · 28-06-2021 10:34AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Thanks for the essay. You said demand isn't there and people won't be rushing out. It quite clearly is and they are going out in numbers that was the point made, the rest I'm not all that interested in. You might not like the current dining experience, hence the it might not be your cup of tea comment, but that doesn't mean that demand isn't there

Do you understand the concept of an initial demand of people wanting to all go out and then after a couple of weeks it eases off?

Also plenty of places closed so others are busier.

And what about the manky evening when the misty rain comes in and its game over.

RoryMac · 28-06-2021 10:35AM

I think it will come down to if they sign off on giving the Astra Zeneca to younger people to speed up the rollout, if they allow that there is no valid reason to hold back on re-opening

zackory · 28-06-2021 10:43AM

So it looks like another 2 weeks but there won't be another "review" NPHET / media / leak / circus before that, it will be a confirmed date.

So today is Holohans last day to make himself feel relevant and important and we are done with him.

Finally.

BigMo1 · 28-06-2021 10:48AM

zackory wrote: »

So it looks like another 2 weeks but there won't be another "review" NPHET / media / leak / circus before that, it will be a confirmed date.

So today is Holohans last day to make himself feel relevant and important and we are done with him.

Finally.

Is it two weeks yeah? I have a selfish interest as I’m to be married on July 24th with 50 guests. If the delay is 3 weeks that’d scupper our plans.

KrustyUCC · 28-06-2021 10:50AM

That's the delay for indoor hospitality

The leaks recently seem to think that the increase in numbers for weddings will go ahead as planned

M_Murphy57 · 28-06-2021 10:51AM

zackory wrote: »

So it looks like another 2 weeks but there won't be another "review" NPHET / media / leak / circus before that, it will be a confirmed date.

So today is Holohans last day to make himself feel relevant and important and we are done with him.

Finally.

No he can still throw a spanner in the works on international travel on the 19th for starters?

We also have never been given a "freedom day" date ie when all restrictions are lifted - nightclubs return, theatres at full capacity, public transport, offices, no more social distancing or rules about household visitors.

All those decisions don't even have a timeline for when they might be considered.

The decision on nightclubs and travel to country with open nightclubs will be ones Tony will strongly want to insert himself into in particular.

munchkin_utd · 28-06-2021 10:52AM

https://twitter.com/TodaywithClaire/status/1409441518281183233?s=20

flip sakes! Its the likes of him with the zero covid agenda which stifled any talk of a balanced aproach.

Anyhow, its to be welcomed even though I am wondering, whats the catch ?

zackory · 28-06-2021 10:53AM

BigMo1 wrote: »

Is it two weeks yeah? I have a selfish interest as I’m to be married on July 24th with 50 guests. If the delay is 3 weeks that’d scupper our plans.

Well thats the latest leak. The key thing is that Holohan doesn't get another chance to interfere with things.

As has been said above further leaks indicate weddings will be exempt from the this delay.

RoryMac · 28-06-2021 10:53AM

M_Murphy57 wrote: »

No he can still throw a spanner in the works on international travel on the 19th for starters?

We also have never been given a "freedom day" date ie when all restrictions are lifted - nightclubs return, theatres at full capacity, public transport, offices, no more social distancing or rules about household visitors.

All those decisions don't even have a timeline for when they might be considered.

The decision on nightclubs and travel to country with open nightclubs will be ones Tony will strongly want to insert himself into in particular.

They don't have next years calendar yet so can't decide on the date

OwenM · 28-06-2021 10:53AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

McConkey has consistently been more positive than NPHET over the past few weeks.

It's one of the main reasons I think NPHET have completely lost the plot.

I saw him on Prime Time and thought 'oh god here we go' but no he was actually quite positive? Weird....

Micky 32 · 28-06-2021 10:54AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

McConkey has consistently been more positive than NPHET over the past few weeks.

Don’t trust the man, he’s up to something. Ever hear the saying “ easier to catch more flies with honey than vinegar “

:pac: :pac:

Red Silurian · 28-06-2021 10:57AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I think the Government have to be aware that public support for a delay just isn't there. If even McConkey is advocating reopening then it's clear the tide has turned.

The only ones who seem to be complaining about that are those who are still texting radio shows to complain about what others are doing, or those who are completely unaffected as they're happily working from home and saving money.

To put my cards on the table I'm at home making a bit of savings... But opening the pubs for indoors isn't going to stop me doing that so I don't really see your point

I don't know how a 2 week delay is going to benefit unless they want to keep everything the way it is and reopen much more in 2 weeks time. Allowing measures such as no meal for indoors, scrapping the 11pm closing time, social distancing to 1m or increasing the numbers that will be allowed at weddings and funerals etc etc

I think moves like that would get good public support

stephenjmcd · 28-06-2021 10:58AM

zackory wrote: »

So it looks like another 2 weeks but there won't be another "review" NPHET / media / leak / circus before that, it will be a confirmed date.

So today is Holohans last day to make himself feel relevant and important and we are done with him.

Finally.

Got a link to this latest leak saying there'll be no other review in 2 weeks.?

zackory · 28-06-2021 10:58AM

M_Murphy57 wrote: »

No he can still throw a spanner in the works on international travel on the 19th for starters?

We also have never been given a "freedom day" date ie when all restrictions are lifted - nightclubs return, theatres at full capacity, public transport, offices, no more social distancing or rules about household visitors.

All those decisions don't even have a timeline for when they might be considered.

The decision on nightclubs and travel to country with open nightclubs will be ones Tony will strongly want to insert himself into in particular.

No I think its looking like the 19th for travel and hospitality, no opportunity for Holohan to grandstand again before then.

Apart from nightclubs its largely done on the 19th, other than masks, distancing, stuff thats either not really enforced or not a major hassle. I don't mind wearing a mask if I need to be seen to be playing along.

Sports events and indoor concerts etc. are coming back too, and after the Euros the longer they persist with that the sillier they look.

Nightclubs and a few other things will continue to be thrown under the bus for another while I suppose.

finalfurlong · 28-06-2021 11:02AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

Tour Buses? I used to run these out of my place years ago, Tea and scone merchants, shared pots of tea, using toilet facilities and leaving, I even had American tourists asking for two straws with a bottle of coke and sharing a bowl of soup with two spoons, I'm not kidding, I know tourist towns have as good as barred them.

Yeah saw that kind of stuff.Worked in a place where locals would often stick head in door to see the tour bus crowd and leave again .Ironically a few of locals could be downing 3 pints in an hour and greatly surpassed the 2 spoons in soup crowd!

OwenM · 28-06-2021 11:03AM

zackory wrote: »

Well thats the latest leak. The key thing is that Holohan doesn't get another chance to interfere with things.

As has been said above further leaks indicate weddings will be exempt from the this delay.

Holohan isn't the problem, It's Micheal Martin. Holohan / NPHET advice is entirely predictable to be over cautious and not cognisant of other factors. Why are NPHET meeting today, because Martin asked them to and he breathes 'advice', 'expertise', 'reports', 'recommendations' - he has used these for his entire political career in the absence of any actual decision making ability of his own.

Vicxas · 28-06-2021 11:04AM

Most news outlets running with we're pushing back re-opening indoor dining.

Im absolutely disgusted by the cowardice of this government.

namloc1980 · 28-06-2021 11:06AM

Delaying for 2 weeks is just ludicrous in the middle of summer. It makes no sense. 2 weeks will make no difference to the health situation but will further cripple businesses that have to remain closed. Seems to me it's just NPHET flexing their power one more time - they know this spineless government will do their bidding. There's no scientific or economic reasoning to it.

TomTomTim · 28-06-2021 11:07AM

South Africa bans alcohol sales to fight country's latest Covid-19 surge

Maybe we should go all in, and follow the example of the great state of South Africa.

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