Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Deleted User wrote: »

Capacity is what, 5k?

3.5 in a venue that can hold 12-15 so between 25-30%

TomSweeney wrote: »

Jesus H Christ dancing on a pogo stick, just listening to the RTE news there, allready going on about delaying the July 19 data for opening up travel because of the "delta variant" ..

Is the delta variant resistant to vaccines or what ?

Why do they want this to go on and on and on indefinetely, of course there will be people on here defending it ..

Not only that . Indoor dining would be crazy to allow happen in July. The lunatics are running the asylum.

TomSweeney wrote: »

At this stage I see no end to it , they will just keep adding new variants, in 10 years time they will be talking about the ZZZZZZXXX variant and we must "hold firm" ... "there are better days ahead" .... I wonder when the defenders of all this will say "enough is enough" ..

zackory wrote: »

Tánaiste Leo Varadkar has said there is no reason to panic just yet around the further reopening scheduled for July 5 as concerns grow due to the spread of the Delta variant.

In all honesty, can these people just stop.

Can who stop what?

PTH2009 wrote: »

A lot of people won't be able for another big lockdown me included

All and good for NPHET/Government among others who will be unaffected by it and still earn there massive salaries

I intend on bolting out to a normal country, I can't do another one either!! They are demented and our Authorities have used them way to freely for my taste!

Silentcorner wrote: »

Just to point out, there wasn't this time last year either, in fact, as late as October of last year, Leo Varadkar in his public spat with TH stated on National TV that we simply couldn't afford another level 5 lock down.....shortly afterward we went into a 7 and a half month lock down we are only just gradually being released from!!!

There will be a new variant of concern in Sept/Oct, numbers will increase...what remains to be seen is how our Government handles it...perhaps I missed when Senior Government officials categorically ruled out another lock down...but I don't think I did!

Have you notified the W.H.O. about this?

growleaves wrote: »

The ground has already been cleared for another lockdown by both Martin and Varadkar saying there might be one in winter 2021-22.

They never walked back those statements or explained them and the vaccination scheldule for winter 2021 is the same as when they made those statements.

I've been beating this drum since last January because I understand that there is a political logic to the phenomenon of lockdowns.

The likes of yourself will be ridiculing people for expecting a lockdown right up until the second we're headed back into lockdown. Then you'll be blah-blahing about the danger of Zeta variant or whatever the rationale is.

Last summer after the first lockdown, people were ridiculed for saying that the lockdown wouldn't be a one-time event - something which I intuited as far back as April 2020.

Here in England atleast, a Tory MP recently spoke about how he saw government plans for restrictions in Autumn and Winter. He didn't say exactly what these restrictions were and you could argue it's better to be prepared than not, but it's worrying and extremely frustrating to hear. Some might say "oh well social distancing and masks aren't that bad" but businesses can't survive with those and all we're doing is creating some weird society where we're afraid of winter. Patrick Vallance/Chris Witty have spoken about how society needs to learn how to live with covid, just like we do with the flu so I hope they stick to their word.

Scotland have just announced their pushing back their ending of restrictions until August. We're very much teetering on autumn by then. Wales are talking about restrictions continuing despite being far ahead in vaccinations of every other country in the UK aswell as Ireland. (They have 88% with 1 dose and 60% with 2 doses) They've had TWO covid deaths all month and I'm almost certain you're not even legally allowed to visit someone elses house there (open to correction).

Some accuse others of burying their heads in the sand when it comes to this Delta variant, but you could very well accuse those of sticking their head in the sand when it comes to another lockdown or a lockdown in all but name come Winter. Theres talk of "booster shots", will it be a case of "well, we need all the vulnerable to get a booster shot for XYZ variant first". You know for certain the media will be hammering the **** out of articles about hospitals being overwhelmed, whether thats with covid or flu, they don't care once they get their clicks.

I really really hope none of this happens and I try not to go too far over to the negative "this will never end" side but it's tough. Winter will be the real test to see whether this is all over or not.

Allinall wrote: »

Have you notified the W.H.O. about this?

Clever....you're a clever one...have you not being paying attention to variants since the start of this thing or did it just happen when variants were all over the telly sometime last November?

Chivito550 wrote: »

Got to love the cherry picking of when to look to the rest of EU. Where's the benchmarking against EU when it comes to antigen testing, international travel, mass gathering events (e.g. Euro 2020) and the general imposing and easing of restrictions? What a fraud.

https://twitter.com/CMOIreland/status/1407013918405496833?s=19

A bit like when Philip Nolan continued his "schools are perfectly safe" lie by claiming that just because cases started rising again after schools reopened, you couldn't equate correlation with causation.

This after they'd spend most of a year attributing blame based on nothing but spurious correlations. (Because without bothering to do proper contact tracing there was nothing else to go on).

Deleted User wrote: »

Do you understand what they mean by variant of concern and however it differs from 99.9% of variants?

Do you understand that the only variant of concern is the one that hits us during flu season?

Silentcorner wrote: »

lt's beyond obvious what this is....

What is it?