Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

zackory

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Teeing up the next fearfest once delta recedes.

VinLieger

KrustyUCC wrote: »

I agree

She's an expert according to RTE

An expert at being a toxic lying fear monger.

shockframe

Martin Feeley is an expert too.

We don't tend to hear from him all that much though. Strange one that.

KrustyUCC

Silentcorner wrote: »

I was wondering how they are going to maintain the fear through the summer months when we all know the numbers will fall flat...how can they maintain that hysteria into Sept, that is the question.

I wonder how many are still buying into the hysteria, whilst simultaneously watching crowded stadiums literally all over Europe!!! And a US which is by and large back to normal now!

It's strange

The RTE presenter was almost wanting the minister to say they'll be delaying the reopening of indoor dining

They're clamouring for it

VinLieger

KrustyUCC wrote: »

It's strange

The RTE presenter was almost wanting the minister to say they'll be delaying the reopening of indoor dining

They're clamouring for it

ISAG have them brainwashed

Sobit1964

TomSweeney wrote: »

https://www.hartgroup.org/covid-19-is-becoming-more-mild/

More good news the media are ignoring ..

Another couple of weeks data from the UK, and we might have the candidate thats worth 'letting it rip', especially as by then the number of vulnerable who arent vaccinated will be vanishingly small.

CruelSummer

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Rte really ramping up the doom and gloom on Drivetime

"Why won't the government listen to Emer McLysart to delay indoor dining on 5th of June?"

I think it’s Aoife, and anytime she’s been on media she’s wanted nothing open. She and her ISAG counterparts tried to keep schools closed far beyond March. She opposed shops, hairdressers and outdoor restaurants / pubs reopening. She was also claiming ‘The Irish public’ wouldn’t be comfortable with this reopening and would continue to live in Covid lockdown mode.
Complete and utter agenda driven lie after lie out of her mouth and those of her ISAG counterparts.
Was she asked about the leaked emails confirming their tactics to mislead the public, increase anxiety and go after people rather than institutions of anyone who opposed their extremist views…didn’t think so.

normanoffside

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Rte really ramping up the doom and gloom on Drivetime

"Why won't the government listen to Emer McLysart to delay indoor dining on 5th of June?"

It's Aoife McLies(aght) of ISAG.
They love getting those ISAG 'experts' on the radio.

Aoife herself is an expert in Genetics, nothing to do with Viruses.

Sobit1964

Sobit1964 wrote: »

Another couple of weeks data from the UK, and we might have the candidate thats worth 'letting it rip', especially as by then the number of vulnerable who arent vaccinated will be vanishingly small.

What we appear to be getting is a clamour to draw conclusions based on data around initial symptoms only, ignoring the country that has had the most delta variant cases, rather than actually getting conclusive data.

I hope the delta variant is a milder virus. Eventually there will be one. But no need to act like there is one until we know. No one, at least no one sensible, is asking for a return to lockdowns due to the variant, or even to slow down. Just to be vigilant.

VinLieger

normanoffside wrote: »

It's Aoife McLies(aght) of ISAG.
They love getting those ISAG 'experts' on the radio.

Aoife herself is an expert in Genetics, nothing to do with Viruses.

As far as ISAG are concerned she's an expert in something medical related with a female voice who can hit her talking points

_Kaiser_

Graham wrote: »

So they continue to spread it ......

And again I'll ask... so what?

If it presents as a cold, is milder generally, and the vaccines work on it, what's the problem?

The actually vulnerable are almost all vaccinated, the rest are at little to no risk from it even if they get it...

So again, so what?

A difference that makes no difference, IS no difference!

Graham

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

And again I'll ask... so what?

If it presents as a cold, is milder generally, and the vaccines work on it, what's the problem?

People need to be vaccinated for the vaccines to work.
People are still being hospitalised by Coronavirus (all be it in lower numbers so far).
The more the virus circulates, the greater the opportunity it has to mutate into new variants.

Anyway, before anyone gets twitchy:

The good news is the plan is still to go ahead with the reopening of indoor dining next month – despite a rise in the Delta variant. I guesstimate somewhere around 700,000 more vaccines will be administered before then.

zackory

Graham wrote: »

People need to be vaccinated for the vaccines to work.
People are still being hospitalised by Coronavirus (all be it in lower numbers so far).
The more the virus circulates, the greater the opportunity it has to mutate into new variants.

Anyway, before anyone gets twitchy:

The good news is the plan is still to go ahead with the reopening of indoor dining next month – despite a rise in the Delta variant. I guesstimate somewhere around 700,000 more vaccines will be administered before then.

13 in ICU ffs.

niallo27

Graham wrote: »

People need to be vaccinated for the vaccines to work.
People are still being hospitalised by Coronavirus (all be it in lower numbers so far).
The more the virus circulates, the greater the opportunity it has to mutate into new variants.

Anyway, before anyone gets twitchy:

The good news is the plan is still to go ahead with the reopening of indoor dining next month – despite a rise in the Delta variant. I guesstimate somewhere around 700,000 more vaccines will be administered before then.

Stop Graham, you are really hanging in there now, your a laughing stock.

Whatsisname

Graham wrote: »

People need to be vaccinated for the vaccines to work.
People are still being hospitalised by Coronavirus (all be it in lower numbers so far).
The more the virus circulates, the greater the opportunity it has to mutate into new variants.

Anyway, before anyone gets twitchy:

The good news is the plan is still to go ahead with the reopening of indoor dining next month – despite a rise in the Delta variant. I guesstimate somewhere around 700,000 more vaccines will be administered before then.

People will always be hospitalised by coronavirus, if you vaccinated 100% of the population, people would still be hospitalised by it.

There’s thousands of variants. The vaccines work on them. There will be thousands more. The likelihood is that it only becomes weaker, not stronger.

Penfailed

Penfailed wrote: »

If it's 'beyond obvious what this is', you should have no difficulty in explaining what 'this' is...

Silentcorner?

I'll just assume you don't want to answer lest you be directed towards the CT forum, yeah?

Silentcorner

Penfailed wrote: »

Silentcorner?

I'll just assume you don't want to answer lest you be directed towards the CT forum, yeah?

Ha ha haaaa...ya, the seasonal effect is a conspiracy theory.

normanoffside

RTE are warning us to be very careful because the symptoms of the Delta Variant are very mild like a cold (or hay fever)


https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1407390746559320070

namloc1980

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normanoffside

normanoffside wrote: »

Might be time yo get out of this country for a few months.

We know where this is going.

https://twitter.com/CMOIreland/status/1407013724372750338

namloc1980 wrote: »

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I knew when Tony posted that tweet yesterday that was where it was going.
Definitely time to get out of here.

pjohnson

normanoffside wrote: »

I knew when Tony posted that tweet yesterday that was where it was going.
Definitely time to get out of here.

Have you not been saying this at least the last 6 months?

Whatsisname

Whatsisname wrote: »

People will always be hospitalised by coronavirus, if you vaccinated 100% of the population, people would still be hospitalised by it.

There’s thousands of variants. The vaccines work on them. There will be thousands more. The likelihood is that it only becomes weaker, not stronger.

You do know what’s a “variant”and what’s a “variant of concern” and understand why until there is a large majority of the population vaccinated we still should still monitor the situation? Pretending it will go away itself and ignoring it because we are fed up is not a strategy of a mature adult

SNNUS

normanoffside wrote: »

RTE are warning us to be very careful because the symptoms of the Delta Variant are very mild like a cold (or hay fever)


https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1407390746559320070

All these cold sufferers are in my thoughts and prayers. #staysafe #zerofirm #lemsip?

RunningFlyer

normanoffside wrote: »

RTE are warning us to be very careful because the symptoms of the Delta Variant are very mild like a cold (or hay fever)


https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1407390746559320070

Is it possible PCR tests are simply picking up the “common cold” as it’s a form of coronavirus anyway? Or are the tests calibrated to only detect the new C19 protein chain or whatever?

Tin hat on.

RunningFlyer

RunningFlyer wrote: »

Is it possible PCR tests are simply picking up the “common cold” as it’s a form of coronavirus anyway? Or are the tests calibrated to only detect the new C19 protein chain or whatever?

Tin hat on.

It looks for segments of RNA found in SARS-CoV-2 specifically

normanoffside

pjohnson wrote: »

Have you not been saying this at least the last 6 months?

Yes, when Tony says something is worrying, the government jump by either tightening restrictions or loosening them more slowly than planned.
Always been right.

paddyisreal

I had a few sniffles today after cutting the grass wonder could it be the "grass variant" . Might contact Tony and see should we lock down till the end of summer.

So basically the variant is a cold for the majority of the unvaccinated.... Makes you wonder

Deeper Blue

namloc1980 wrote: »

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At this stage it should be breaking news when they're not concerned

Coillte_Bhoy

normanoffside wrote: »

Yes, when Tony says something is worrying, the government jump by either tightening restrictions or loosening them more slowly than planned.
Always been right.

You have been on about leaving for months now, why dont you just go?

normanoffside

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

You have been on about leaving for months now, why dont you just go?

Well I have been away for a fortnight in January and will be off for another next month but unfortunately for me my job and business keep me here.

I wouldn't joke if I were you though I know quite a few big earners who are able to work remotely and they are taking their taxes and families elsewhere and emigrating for good. That'll be another problem down the line when we have to pay all this back.