Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings

zackory · 20-06-2021 10:25AM

Graham wrote: »

Sounds like your local hotels are ignoring the guidelines, I remember they go into some detail about the number of open sides and distance to walls etc.

I'm thinking back around any I've seen, the most they'd have is a canvas roof.

I suppose it's like anything, there's always going to be a few that chance their arm.

Pretty much every pub, restaurant and hotel breaking the silly and pointless restrictions at this stage from what I have seen.

No table service, no sanitising tables, large groups together outdoors, hotels letting non residents in for food and drink, pubs letting people inside. There is zero enforcement of it.

Stheno · 20-06-2021 10:27AM

zackory wrote: »

Pretty much every pub, restaurant and hotel breaking the silly and pointless restrictions at this stage from what I have seen.

No table service, no sanitising tables, large groups together outdoors, hotels letting non residents in for food and drink, pubs letting people inside. There is zero enforcement of it.

Where is this?

hynesie08 · 20-06-2021 10:27AM

zackory wrote: »

Yeah we really need an iveagh Gardens style gig to tell us if it's safe or not outdoors.

Well yes, the first gig has to be a basically zero risk situation, then you work up.

niallo27 · 20-06-2021 10:28AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

When the very first trial worked, why did any country bother with trials?

You still need the data, at the very least for insurance reasons, yes we're late collecting the data, but every country needs to collect it.

You don't think looking across Europe they could at least be a bit more ambitious, its like nphet coming out with the rubbish about no antigen studies have been completed.

zackory · 20-06-2021 10:38AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Well yes, the first gig has to be a basically zero risk situation, then you work up.

And again, if they kicked off the process around Easter I'd have supported it.

But they wait until the virus is pretty crushed in the community anyway to be extra sure.

It's kinda like a man that has had the snip still wearing a condom with a woman who is on the pill to make sure there is no pregnancy.

niallo27 · 20-06-2021 10:57AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Well yes, the first gig has to be a basically zero risk situation, then you work up.

Why does it have to be zero risk though at this stage, we are so over cautious at everything we do, from restrictions yo crowds to antigen testing, we have to be the last. Why is this, nobody can tell me.

dominatinMC · 20-06-2021 11:05AM

Every so often these theories about masks (and distancing) forever appear on here, usually based on some random comment or opinion piece. Those polls linked a few pages back should also be taken with a large grain of salt IMO. If you ask certain people for their view during the middle (or latter stages as it probably is now) of a pandemic, that view will clearly be biased by current developments in the pandemic - i.e. in this case the big, bad Indian variant :rolleyes:

So I think it's difficult to draw any meaningful conclusions from these kind of polls, apart from their ability to provide a nice dramatic headline for some media organisations. Instead I prefer to look at what is happening in countries ahead of us in vaccinations for an insight into our future. Two good examples are Israel and the USA. Here nearly all restrictions (bar a few states) are gone. That is the future, no masks, no distancing, no restrictions on gatherings. And it's not too far away either. Unfortunately, international travel will be an issue for much longer but, tbh, I can live with that.

zackory · 20-06-2021 11:08AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Why does it have to be zero risk though at this stage, we are so over cautious at everything we do, from restrictions yo crowds to antigen testing, we have to be the last. Why is this, nobody can tell me.

Quite simply because we have a lame duck Taoiseach, a government afraid of their shadow and an opposition who are, well, derived from a terrorist organisation.

ingo1984 · 20-06-2021 11:22AM

Stheno wrote: »

Where is this?

Alot of the pubs in villages never actually adhered to the restrictions. My local pub never closed. Would allow you drink in the back bar which could not be seen from the main street. You'd enter through the yard at the back of the pub which ya went through a graveyard to get to. Could have 20 to 30 lads in there each night. Was funny seeing the brewery delivering kegs to the bar when we were in harsh level 5 lockdown. Local Gardaí were regular customers aswell.

Local hotel only last week allowed myself and my wife, aunt and uncle in for Saturday night dinner and drinks. Weren't residents. Few locals in there aswell who I doubt were residents either.

helimachoptor · 20-06-2021 11:58AM

ingo1984 wrote: »

Alot of the pubs in villages never actually adhered to the restrictions. My local pub never closed. Would allow you drink in the back bar which could not be seen from the main street. You'd enter through the yard at the back of the pub which ya went through a graveyard to get to. Could have 20 to 30 lads in there each night. Was funny seeing the brewery delivering kegs to the bar when we were in harsh level 5 lockdown. Local Gardaí were regular customers aswell.

Local hotel only last week allowed myself and my wife, aunt and uncle in for Saturday night dinner and drinks. Weren't residents. Few locals in there aswell who I doubt were residents either.

Down with the brother in law in the west a few months ago, same thing. In the bar Saturday afternoon. Owner said gardai were regulars and he was ok as long as he "didn't want the piss"

20-06-2021 12:27PM

zackory wrote: »

Pretty much every pub, restaurant and hotel breaking the silly and pointless restrictions at this stage from what I have seen.

No table service, no sanitising tables, large groups together outdoors, hotels letting non residents in for food and drink, pubs letting people inside. There is zero enforcement of it.

GOOD!

haskellgeek · 20-06-2021 01:11PM

I see the uk are talking about a winter lockdown for influenza now

PhoneMain · 20-06-2021 01:19PM

haskellgeek wrote: »

I see the uk are talking about a winter lockdown for influenza now

Link?

haskellgeek · 20-06-2021 01:25PM

PhoneMain wrote: »

Link?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-news-live-uk-vaccine-jab-b1869274.html

PTH2009 · 20-06-2021 01:25PM

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0620/1229176-coronavirus-ireland/

charlie14 · 20-06-2021 01:25PM

ingo1984 wrote: »

Alot of the pubs in villages never actually adhered to the restrictions. My local pub never closed. Would allow you drink in the back bar which could not be seen from the main street. You'd enter through the yard at the back of the pub which ya went through a graveyard to get to. Could have 20 to 30 lads in there each night. Was funny seeing the brewery delivering kegs to the bar when we were in harsh level 5 lockdown. Local Gardaí were regular customers aswell.

Local hotel only last week allowed myself and my wife, aunt and uncle in for Saturday night dinner and drinks. Weren't residents. Few locals in there aswell who I doubt were residents either.

A brewery was delivering kegs to this bar when we were in harsh level 5 lockdown. Were they delivering a large pinch of salt with each keg as well

suicide_circus · 20-06-2021 01:34PM

ecoli3136 wrote: »

GOOD!

Tired332 · 20-06-2021 01:37PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

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hynesie08 · 20-06-2021 01:37PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0620/1229176-coronavirus-ireland/

Yes, what were you expecting?

PTH2009 · 20-06-2021 01:38PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

'Reopening indoor pubs ???, who said that'

Lumen · 20-06-2021 01:41PM

haskellgeek wrote: »

I see the uk are talking about a winter lockdown for influenza now

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-news-live-uk-vaccine-jab-b1869274.html

That's a complete misrepresentation of the article.

TheDoctor · 20-06-2021 01:49PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Something to give the children nightmares

haskellgeek · 20-06-2021 01:52PM

Lumen wrote: »

That's a complete misrepresentation of the article.

How they are talking about it as a possiblity?

Lumen · 20-06-2021 01:56PM

haskellgeek wrote: »

How they are talking about it as a possiblity?

Can you reformulate that in meaningful English?

charlie14 · 20-06-2021 05:32PM

haskellgeek wrote: »

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-news-live-uk-vaccine-jab-b1869274.html

That article does not state what you claimed.
It says nothing about the U.K. going into lockdown next winter due to influenza.

haskellgeek · 20-06-2021 05:49PM

charlie14 wrote: »

That article does not state what you claimed.
It says nothing about the U.K. going into lockdown next winter due to influenza.

They are discussing it as an option though, which was all I was saying never said it was definite.

charlie14 · 20-06-2021 06:08PM

haskellgeek wrote: »

They are discussing it as an option though, which was all I was saying never said it was definite.

If you believe that they are, then you need to re-read and re-listen to the link you posted.
It has nothing to do with your claim that they are considering using lockdown next Winter to combat influenza.
She is clearly referring to Covid and with increased vaccination, (similar to them NOT having used lockdowns to combat influenza), she does not expect they will use lockdown to combat Covid this Winter.

AlekSmart · 20-06-2021 06:14PM

zackory wrote: »

Yeah we really need an iveagh Gardens style gig to tell us if it's safe or not outdoors.

Oh no you don't !

With the whole Pandemic thing now becoming ever more difficult to keep going,it's now time for the next best thing to keep order on the Great Unwashed.....

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-comment/2021/0618/1229058-climate-george-lee/

After almost 18 months of phase 1's doomladen reportage,the George Lee Team are now refocusing their attention towards the Climate "Emergency" :eek:

Get your bunker dug now !

MerlinSouthDub · 20-06-2021 06:17PM

Dear pubs/restaurants: You can only serve drink outdoors. Please note it is illegal to serve drink outdoors.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda%C3%AD-say-outdoor-drinking-in-temporary-seating-areas-illegal-1.4598659?mode=amp

stephenjmcd · 20-06-2021 06:18PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Dear pubs/restaurants: You can only serve drink outdoors. Please note it is illegal to serve drink outdoors.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda%C3%AD-say-outdoor-drinking-in-temporary-seating-areas-illegal-1.4598659?mode=amp

Safe to say that'll be addressed early next week probably. You'd be hard pressed to find a Garda enforcing that

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