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2021 Cadetship

  • 30-04-2021 3:40pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 9


    2021 Officer Cadetship is open for applications, best of luck everyone!

    Bit of background on myself, I'm 25 so this is my only chance to get in. Trying to get my km down to 3:30. After doing everything 'right' I found myself in a boring office job... very unfulfilled so I decided to go for the cadetship, something I have thought about since I was a kid. Hopefully I'll see this out to the very end to find myself starting at the end of the year and I hope there's some other boards members who'll be joining me in this competition.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭eastie17


    My son wants to go for this next year post LC, are there a certain number of positions reserved directly from school and a certain number for those with degrees? Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 ConorAFH


    JRK1995 wrote: »
    2021 Officer Cadetship is open for applications, best of luck everyone!

    Bit of background on myself, I'm 25 so this is my only chance to get in. Trying to get my km down to 3:30. After doing everything 'right' I found myself in a boring office job... very unfulfilled so I decided to go for the cadetship, something I have thought about since I was a kid. Hopefully I'll see this out to the very end to find myself starting at the end of the year and I hope there's some other boards members who'll be joining me in this competition.

    Just applied there myself was in the competition last year but failed the first stage sounds like your ready for the competition. Good luck in it hopefully you can achieve your dream


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 MrFridge


    Anyone know if you can apply for a cadetship mid-degree ? I'm finishing 3rd year, going into final year engineering in UL next year, fingers crossed. Is it possible to go back to college and do the final year at a later date if I was accepted, or should I just wait until next year to apply ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    MrFridge wrote: »
    Anyone know if you can apply for a cadetship mid-degree ? I'm finishing 3rd year, going into final year engineering in UL next year, fingers crossed. Is it possible to go back to college and do the final year at a later date if I was accepted, or should I just wait until next year to apply ?

    Yes, that's quite common.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39 RCB1A


    Well lads, I'm applying for the Air Corps Cadetship this year. Last year I did both Army and Air Corps and failed both interviews so if anyone has questions about it I'll do my best to answer. Good luck to everyone this year!:)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭mcc_c


    RCB1A wrote: »
    Well lads, I'm applying for the Air Corps Cadetship this year. Last year I did both Army and Air Corps and failed both interviews so if anyone has questions about it I'll do my best to answer. Good luck to everyone this year!:)

    Goodludk in your application this year, I remember your tag from last year's thread. Good luck to everyone else applying as well!


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 RWJ1995


    What’s up lads, hope ye are all getting on alright! Just wondering; does anyone know whenabouts the fitness test etc will be? Early/mid July prob if the psychometrics are only going out the first week of June?


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭mcc_c


    RWJ1995 wrote: »
    What’s up lads, hope ye are all getting on alright! Just wondering; does anyone know whenabouts the fitness test etc will be? Early/mid July prob if the psychometrics are only going out the first week of June?

    They're fairly quick off the mark with it, I think last year it was within two weeks of the psychometric if I'm not wrong. It all goes one after the other pretty quick.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 JRK1995


    RWJ1995 wrote: »
    What’s up lads, hope ye are all getting on alright! Just wondering; does anyone know whenabouts the fitness test etc will be? Early/mid July prob if the psychometrics are only going out the first week of June?

    Was chatting with my mate who did it last year, his was the 03-July which was a couple of weeks after the pyschometric deadline. I think last year the closing date for applications was the 31st of May so it seems they're a week ahead this year.

    How's everyones' fitness? I'll pass the test but I'm worried I'm not up to scratch, putting in a good bit of effort to get my fitness back to prelockdown as I have let my fitness go. Would love to get the run down to 9 mins.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 RWJ1995


    JRK1995 wrote: »
    Was chatting with my mate who did it last year, his was the 03-July which was a couple of weeks after the pyschometric deadline. I think last year the closing date for applications was the 31st of May so it seems they're a week ahead this year.

    How's everyones' fitness? I'll pass the test but I'm worried I'm not up to scratch, putting in a good bit of effort to get my fitness back to prelockdown as I have let my fitness go. Would love to get the run down to 9 mins.

    Ah fair, yeah I’m the same, let myself go a bit over lockdown and picked up an injury going back that I’ve been carrying so bit of a juggling situation trying to alternate resting for it and working on my run, bit of a nightmare!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭mcc_c


    Fitness could always be better 😅, just remember that the goal is less than 11:40 (if yous are lads), anything below that is a win so don't kill yourself trying to get much lower if you're injured etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 CS97


    RCB1A wrote: »
    Well lads, I'm applying for the Air Corps Cadetship this year. Last year I did both Army and Air Corps and failed both interviews so if anyone has questions about it I'll do my best to answer. Good luck to everyone this year!:)

    Applying for Army line cadetship for the first time myself, just wondering if you could give any insight into the group exercise? Any info appreciated mate. Best of luck moving forward lads.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39 RCB1A


    CS97 wrote: »
    Applying for Army line cadetship for the first time myself, just wondering if you could give any insight into the group exercise? Any info appreciated mate. Best of luck moving forward lads.

    You're given building blocks/materials and given 3 or 4 different prompts and have to communicate as a team and build what the prompt requires. They'll probably do it in the Curragh in which case you're lucky because their materials are easier to work with. :D
    mcc_c wrote: »
    Goodludk in your application this year, I remember your tag from last year's thread. Good luck to everyone else applying as well!

    Haha I remember you too! I take it you didn't make it last year in which case good luck this year!

    And yeah mcc_c is right, once the online tests start they're pretty quick with the rest of the stages. Roughly every second-ish week a new stage of it goes ahead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 JRK1995


    Pyschometric test emails were sent out this morning, deadline is the 06-June.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭mcc_c


    RCB1A wrote: »
    You're given building blocks/materials and given 3 or 4 different prompts and have to communicate as a team and build what the prompt requires. They'll probably do it in the Curragh in which case you're lucky because their materials are easier to work with. :D



    Haha I remember you too! I take it you didn't make it last year in which case good luck this year!

    And yeah mcc_c is right, once the online tests start they're pretty quick with the rest of the stages. Roughly every second-ish week a new stage of it goes ahead.

    Unfortunately not but feel a lot more confident this year so here's to hoping!

    On another note, have you (or anyone else) received any emails from the Air Corps? I got my Army psychometric link but no word from the AC after the applications closed.

    EDIT: Received the AC link - check your junk folder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    JRK1995 wrote: »
    Pyschometric test emails were sent out this morning, deadline is the 06-June.

    For army or AC or both?

    EDIT: my son, who applied for AC, just got his email


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 RWJ1995


    Well lads, I assume it’s just the one psychometric for both the Army and the Navy Ops? I got an application acknowledgement mail for both but only got the ‘Stage 1 - Information’ email for the army, anyone know the story there? Cheers!


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 TRL23


    Well lads, I just got the email for the Mindmill tests and I'm trying to do the practice ones but everytime I click on the link it doesn't load and says that the link doesn't exist. Are any of yous experiencing the same thing ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭mcc_c


    TRL23 wrote: »
    Well lads, I just got the email for the Mindmill tests and I'm trying to do the practice ones but everytime I click on the link it doesn't load and says that the link doesn't exist. Are any of yous experiencing the same thing ?

    I had the same message, must be a link issue.

    @RWJ1995 I think the Army psychometric must be the same, the email says 'Thank you for registering for the 2021 Irish Defence Forces Army and/or Naval Service Cadet Selection process. ' I would imagine the 'and/or' means it's the same. I haven't applied for the Navy myself but I assume it's the same one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 CS97


    RCB1A wrote: »
    You're given building blocks/materials and given 3 or 4 different prompts and have to communicate as a team and build what the prompt requires. They'll probably do it in the Curragh in which case you're lucky because their materials are easier to work with. :D



    Haha I remember you too! I take it you didn't make it last year in which case good luck this year!

    And yeah mcc_c is right, once the online tests start they're pretty quick with the rest of the stages. Roughly every second-ish week a new stage of it goes ahead.

    Thanks for info ladðŸ‘


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 CavanBG1997


    Hey all, second time applying. Aced the pysch tests last year, did fairly well this year. Only thing was there was an error on the second part of the test and my screen froze, had to refresh the page as a last resort and I had to redo the second part.

    Worried my results may not count, anyone else experience any issues?

    Anyway, averaged about 15-20 questions in each section, except the number fluency were I did approx 30-35. I assume it's 20% per section? Anyone on any knowledge on this is graded?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 JRK1995


    Did everyone have four main sections, then a personality section? Didn't have a 'word rule' section.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 RWJ1995


    mcc_c wrote: »
    I had the same message, must be a link issue.

    @RWJ1995 I think the Army psychometric must be the same, the email says 'Thank you for registering for the 2021 Irish Defence Forces Army and/or Naval Service Cadet Selection process. ' I would imagine the 'and/or' means it's the same. I haven't applied for the Navy myself but I assume it's the same one.

    Ah grand so no bother, just never got that second email for Navy Ops so got a bit nervous haha, cheers!

    Just for anyone who’s applied before, are fitness tests usually on weekends or can it be whenever? Working full time and it’s rough getting leave at the moment but I’ll be pulling a sickie if need be 😂


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 JRK1995


    RWJ1995 wrote: »
    Ah grand so no bother, just never got that second email for Navy Ops so got a bit nervous haha, cheers!

    Just for anyone who’s applied before, are fitness tests usually on weekends or can it be whenever? Working full time and it’s rough getting leave at the moment but I’ll be pulling a sickie if need be 😂

    My mate last year had his on the 30-June (Tuesday) at 0800hrs, he said it's usually on a weekday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭mcc_c


    RWJ1995 wrote: »
    Ah grand so no bother, just never got that second email for Navy Ops so got a bit nervous haha, cheers!

    Just for anyone who’s applied before, are fitness tests usually on weekends or can it be whenever? Working full time and it’s rough getting leave at the moment but I’ll be pulling a sickie if need be 😂


    No problem, I'm only making an assumption though so there might be no harm in emailing to clarify?

    Last year for the AC they were week days and they tried accomodating whatever day you could do. I was in the same position but just told my employer out straight, luckily they were sound about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 RWJ1995


    Hope everyone got on alright with the Psychometrics 👍 Didn’t find them too bad at all but nothing worse than going to click the answer and it pops up that the section is done haha had my screen freeze during the personality bit and clicked the same answer for like the first 4/5 questions as well which isn’t ideal


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 JRK1995


    I hope you all did good in the pyschs, got my confirmation email and my physical is set for the 28-June. Fitness wise I'm confident, 4 mins a km, sit-ups are ironically the biggest pain but I can burst the 20 out in 40 seconds. Best of luck lads.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 RWJ1995


    Got my confirmation there too; was booked in for the 23rd and had to get it changed to the 28th because of work commitments, they were straight back and really sound about it so anyone who’s having difficulty with dates definitely email them. I’m the opposite for this; will find the push-ups and sit-ups fairly handy but carrying an injury still that will make the run pretty touch and go for me unfortunately, fingers crossed since I’m 26 in November and this is my only chance to go for it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 JRK1995


    RWJ1995 wrote: »
    Got my confirmation there too; was booked in for the 23rd and had to get it changed to the 28th because of work commitments, they were straight back and really sound about it so anyone who’s having difficulty with dates definitely email them. I’m the opposite for this; will find the push-ups and sit-ups fairly handy but carrying an injury still that will make the run pretty touch and go for me unfortunately, fingers crossed since I’m 26 in November and this is my only chance to go for it!

    Our last chance to get in!

    Out of interest where are you coming from?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22 RWJ1995


    JRK1995 wrote: »
    Our last chance to get in!

    Out of interest where are you coming from?

    I’m only out near maynooth so getting to the curragh thankfully won’t be too much of a trek! Yourself?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 JRK1995


    RWJ1995 wrote: »
    I’m only out near maynooth so getting to the curragh thankfully won’t be too much of a trek! Yourself?

    Monaghan myself, we'll be on the same day so I'll see you then. Just need to get the sit-up technique down as it's the most back-arsed way of doing sit-ups in my opinion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭mcc_c


    Congratulations lads got the confirmation for the 28th as well, dead happy with that.

    I'd be floating around the 4:30min per km but I don't mind what time I do it in as long as it's under 11:40! The sit ups are a pain I agree.

    Last year for me as well, let's make this one count!


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Cadetirldub


    Does anyone who has gotten this far before have any advice for the group assessment?
    Also I assume we're meant to arrive in training gear?


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭mcc_c


    Does anyone who has gotten this far before have any advice for the group assessment?
    Also I assume we're meant to arrive in training gear?

    I think the group assessment is where I fell last year so you probably don't want my advice! 😂

    Last year I arrived in normal clothes, there was an opportunity for us to get changed before the fitness.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39 RCB1A


    Does anyone who has gotten this far before have any advice for the group assessment?
    Also I assume we're meant to arrive in training gear?

    Group assessment is where you show off your communication skills and ability to perform under pressure as well as outside the box thinking (if you come up with any genius ways to solve the problems :) ). This is your basic talking in turns, apologise briefly if you cut someone off and listening to ideas during the planning stage. Ask if you're unsure what your teammate means or mention how you think their idea could be improved. All of this goes as well for when you're actually building whatever your prompt requires. Pointing with your finger and demonstrating with your hands helps to paint a clearer picture for everyone so don't be afraid to do that

    The obvious don't here is don't shout at your teammates or get angry/indignant and just generally don't be hard to work with. :D

    What I think got me through it was saying mostly everything I did so everyone knew what was going on, repeating out loud my tasks to teammates to "show understanding", definitely make sure you assign roles or subgroups if youse think the solution requires two parts, and a "timekeeper" as the problems are timed.

    Lastly be prepared to concede your ideas. You can think you have a brilliant idea but the rest of the group will like a different, simpler idea and at that point you have to prioritise depending on the time left whether you want to try convince the group to your idea or go along with the group to speed up everyone else's preparedness and understanding so you make the most of your building time.

    Also it might happen that you've no clue what to do during the building time, in which case you can try your best to help out physically or ask someone what needs to be done. I will also mention here that you will might come up with better ideas as you are building so don't worry if you didn't provide any input during the planning.

    This was all my experience so if any of it is not great info or I left something out, etc. please correct me! :)

    Edit: sorry this is so long


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15 CS97


    RCB1A wrote: »
    Group assessment is where you show off your communication skills and ability to perform under pressure as well as outside the box thinking (if you come up with any genius ways to solve the problems :) ). This is your basic talking in turns, apologise briefly if you cut someone off and listening to ideas during the planning stage. Ask if you're unsure what your teammate means or mention how you think their idea could be improved. All of this goes as well for when you're actually building whatever your prompt requires. Pointing with your finger and demonstrating with your hands helps to paint a clearer picture for everyone so don't be afraid to do that

    The obvious don't here is don't shout at your teammates or get angry/indignant and just generally don't be hard to work with. :D

    What I think got me through it was saying mostly everything I did so everyone knew what was going on, repeating out loud my tasks to teammates to "show understanding", definitely make sure you assign roles or subgroups if youse think the solution requires two parts, and a "timekeeper" as the problems are timed.

    Lastly be prepared to concede your ideas. You can think you have a brilliant idea but the rest of the group will like a different, simpler idea and at that point you have to prioritise depending on the time left whether you want to try convince the group to your idea or go along with the group to speed up everyone else's preparedness and understanding so you make the most of your building time.

    Also it might happen that you've no clue what to do during the building time, in which case you can try your best to help out physically or ask someone what needs to be done. I will also mention here that you will might come up with better ideas as you are building so don't worry if you didn't provide any input during the planning.

    This was all my experience so if any of it is not great info or I left something out, etc. please correct me! :)

    Edit: sorry this is so long

    Thanks for going into so much detail there man. Headed down for the 24th and wasn't sure on what the group assesment entailed myself, good luck with the next stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 RWJ1995


    Just for anyone who’s gotten to the fitness stage before; what kind of structure does the day follow? Do they kick off with the run etc? I’d imagine it’s different to previous years a bit with COVID but presumably the same as last year


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭mcc_c


    RWJ1995 wrote: »
    Just for anyone who’s gotten to the fitness stage before; what kind of structure does the day follow? Do they kick off with the run etc? I’d imagine it’s different to previous years a bit with COVID but presumably the same as last year

    Last year they gathered everyone in the gym, went through documents etc. before getting us to change into our pt gear. After all of that it was on to the psychometrics, then the realistic job preview and finally the group assessment. There was also a break after the fitness and a mini one later on in the day.

    On a side note, has anyone heard anything from the Air Corps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    mcc_c wrote: »
    On a side note, has anyone heard anything from the Air Corps?

    My son is in for his round 2 next week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭mcc_c


    Dilbert75 wrote: »
    My son is in for his round 2 next week.

    Congratulations to your son, that's great news.

    Do you mind me asking when he received the email?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    mcc_c wrote: »
    Congratulations to your son, that's great news.

    Do you mind me asking when he received the email?

    Thanks. He's delighted naturally but a long way to go yet. They mailed him on 11th and confirmed his day on 14th.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭mcc_c


    Dilbert75 wrote: »
    Thanks. He's delighted naturally but a long way to go yet. They mailed him on 11th and confirmed his day on 14th.

    Ah fair play to him, wishing him the best of luck! Thanks for your reply too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Cadetirldub


    I got the email abut Air Corps stage 2 on same day as the army. I'm surprised really, the Air Corps aptitude tests are far tougher than the army ones in my opinin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭mcc_c


    I got the email abut Air Corps stage 2 on same day as the army. I'm surprised really, the Air Corps aptitude tests are far tougher than the army ones in my opinin.

    Fair play and good luck with stage 2!

    Looks like the end of the road there for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Cadetirldub


    Ah sorry about that. Did you get through with the army?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 CavanBG1997


    Anyone know where to find their reference number (for the vetting)? Can't see any reference in any of the emails.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭mcc_c


    Ah sorry about that. Did you get through with the army?

    I did indeed yes which I'm delighted with. Are you going for both?

    @CavanBG1997 I think they fill in the reference, not 100% sure


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Cadetirldub


    mcc_c wrote: »
    I did indeed yes which I'm delighted with. Are you going for both?

    Yeah I'm going for Army and Air Corps. Would definitely prefer Air Corps but would be delighted with either


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Cadetirldub


    Just wondering if under Name of Organisation if we should write "Irish Defence Forces" or should we specify whether it is Army, Air Corps or Navy?
    And goodluck to everyone starting tomorrow :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭mcc_c


    Just wondering if under Name of Organisation if we should write "Irish Defence Forces" or should we specify whether it is Army, Air Corps or Navy?
    And goodluck to everyone starting tomorrow :)

    I would say no harm in specifying, they ask you to be specific in the role so may as well on that section too. Good luck in the next stage everyone!

    EDIT: does anyone know if parking is available? I'll be driving myself.


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