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TITANIUM. · 27-05-2021 01:35PM

Shocking trade in Kenmare today, I heard to weakling bulls were bad, I saw most of the heifers, there will be allot of cattle heading back home id say as allot were sold subject. The weather is really hitting prices now unfortunately.

Albert Johnson · 27-05-2021 02:41PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Shocking trade in Kenmare today, I heard to weakling bulls were bad, I saw most of the heifers, there will be allot of cattle heading back home id say as allot were sold subject. The weather is really hitting prices now unfortunately.

Weanlings and store cattle are a bit less every day for the last month, the dismal weather and grass growth being the main reasons. However any man that still has numbers of stock to sell coming up to the 1st of June is wrong imo. Granted some men could have been locked with Tb or whatever but otherwise the cattle should be sold a month at this stage. Those wanting cattle for the scheme have them long bought. I'd have little sympathy for anyone that held out with weanlings or stores until now of there own free will.

TITANIUM. · 27-05-2021 02:50PM

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Weanlings and store cattle are a bit less every day for the last month, the dismal weather and grass growth being the main reasons. However any man that still has numbers of stock to sell coming up to the 1st of June is wrong imo. Granted some men could have been locked with Tb or whatever but otherwise the cattle should be sold a month at this stage. Those wanting cattle for the scheme have them long bought. I'd have little sympathy for anyone that held out with weanlings or stores until now of there own free will.

Can't agree with that,most of the usual grass men i deal with have f all bought in comparison to other years.

Albert Johnson · 27-05-2021 03:03PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Can't agree with that,most of the usual grass men i deal with have f all bought in comparison to other years.

I guarantee they have there quota of stocking units bought, between no grass, BEAM ect they might not buy as much as other year's but they'll still have sufficient unit's. I know plenty of summer grazer's who won't buy more stock regardless of price atm because they have no extra grass. The same men were active at Paddy's day looking for cattle, the time to sell is when you have customers. Store cattle should be at grass with a month and have a good thrive done by now, not coming out of a shed a few weeks from the longest day of the year. There was a time there'd only be a handful of cattle in marts from the end of May until September, there's not much point taking November prices the following June.

TITANIUM. · 27-05-2021 03:26PM

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I guarantee they have there quota of stocking units bought, between no grass, BEAM ect they might not buy as much as other year's but they'll still have sufficient unit's. I know plenty of summer grazer's who won't buy more stock regardless of price atm because they have no extra grass. The same men were active at Paddy's day looking for cattle, the time to sell is when you have customers. Store cattle should be at grass with a month and have a good thrive done by now, not coming out of a shed a few weeks from the longest day of the year. There was a time there'd only be a handful of cattle in marts from the end of May until September, there's not much point taking November prices the following June.

Of course cattle should be out with a good while, tell that to the weather ðŸ™„. The very Good quality cattle sell well any day of the year. Regardless of what the date on the calendar says. It is quite plain that a combination rain lack of growth and now a return to the ringside antics are hitting prices.

Albert Johnson · 27-05-2021 04:07PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Of course cattle should be out with a good while, tell that to the weather ðŸ™„. The very Good quality cattle sell well any day of the year. Regardless of what the date on the calendar says. It is quite plain that a combination rain lack of growth and now a return to the ringside antics are hitting prices.

The majority of lad's buying for summer grazing are on better quality ground so having them out shouldn't be an issue. There might not be much grass but a beast outside the last few weeks will still be long ahead of one in a shed. Good quality cattle are still a good enough trade but are getting scarce because there mostly sold. It's the plainer types that are coming out atm and there a different story, cattle quality always dips in late spring the same as late autumn. Lad's always sell the best ones first and hold the lesser ones for longer.

As for the ringside antics I thought that the online system had put pay to that, it's amazing that bidding is open to all and there still not biting for all these cheap cattle. I was at a sale during the week and weanlings weren't overly dear tbh. They were mainly bought by dealers as there wasn't another one to bid for them despite there being online and ringside bidding.

Bass Reeves · 27-05-2021 05:02PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Of course cattle should be out with a good while, tell that to the weather ðŸ™„. The very Good quality cattle sell well any day of the year. Regardless of what the date on the calendar says. It is quite plain that a combination rain lack of growth and now a return to the ringside antics are hitting prices.

Rain and lack of growth yes but I think what is happening around the ring is immaterial. You have had a huge exit from winter finishing. There are a half dozen lads on here including myself that will no longer consider winter finishing. That means lads need less cattle. Lads have cut back I have gone from 70-60......it might be 55 next year. There is probably 50-60k extra cows in the system as dairy heads have matured over the last 4-5 years.

AA and HE's are better options than quality weanlings. While we have no weight penalties at present as numbers rise next year 370-400 kg will be maximum carcase weight. Rations are now 30-40/ ton ahead of last year. I had miller rep into my yard just yesterday never met him before more or less drumming up business.

I bought 340 kg Friesians for 500 euro yesterday. They were struggling at 420 before I got involved. I will gamble them inside for the next 2-3 weeks as I have plenty of silage.

bogman_bass · 27-05-2021 05:33PM

Cull cows back a bit in Carnaross today

Bass Reeves · 27-05-2021 05:42PM

When you consider that milk prices is 3-4c/ L (I think) ahead of last year how much better off is a dairy farmer. He is still feeding ration, production is back a tad I would imagine he may be buffering with bales and is struggling to get his silage crop

Bass Reeves · 27-05-2021 05:43PM

When you consider that milk prices is 3-4c/ L (I think) ahead of last year how much better off is a dairy farmer. He is still feeding ration, production is back a tad I would imagine he may be buffering with bales and is struggling to get his silage crop

Albert Johnson · 27-05-2021 06:01PM

The Friesians would look value at that Bass, they didn't do whoever took them this far too many favours. You'd imagine they'd have made that or more at Paddy's day.

Welding Rod · 27-05-2021 09:24PM

Looked at Ennis heifer sale today online. Flying trade I thought for stores over 550kgs. Plainish blacks hitting €1160 and over. Char 575kg €1275. Red Lim 560kg €1280. They looked to out of the shed with quite a while.
Lighter heifers were back though. Good red lims 440kg €860.

Good loser · 07-06-2021 09:54PM

Some prices at Bandon today
2Lim 360 kg 850
2Lim 410 kg 840
1Fr 555kg 1000
1Her 530 kg 1080
4 H 428kg 860
2 AA 325 kg 630
4H 387 kg 830
All above middle of the road, but the heavy AA were a fabulous trade
even when they were unfinished.
Unfortunately only noted one price 4AA 617 kg €1,600.

Track9 · 10-06-2021 04:34PM

Kenmare had special Weanlings Show & Sales.
Sold four weanlings, they were on grass last 2 months.
3 x 316 ; 800 E ( Sim x Char )
1 x 308 : 730 E ( Lim X )
Dissapointed with the weights & the prices .

Inputs continuing to increase
( We seem way behind the research in other countries, consequently, we still using old tools, fert, spraying, costly pharma to control worms, etc. )

Albert Johnson · 10-06-2021 05:43PM

Track9 wrote: »

Kenmare had special Weanlings Show & Sales.
Sold four weanlings, they were on grass last 2 months.
3 x 316 ; 800 E ( Sim x Char )
1 x 308 : 730 E ( Lim X )
Dissapointed with the weights & the prices .

Inputs continuing to increase
( We seem way behind the research in other countries, consequently, we still using old tools, fert, spraying, costly pharma to control worms, etc. )

Nothing overly special there as regards prices but stock always seem cheaper the further south you head. Without seeing the stock it's hard to comment. Out of interest why did you hold until now to sell them?

TITANIUM. · 10-06-2021 07:35PM

Track9 wrote: »

Kenmare had special Weanlings Show & Sales.
Sold four weanlings, they were on grass last 2 months.
3 x 316 ; 800 E ( Sim x Char )
1 x 308 : 730 E ( Lim X )
Dissapointed with the weights & the prices .

Inputs continuing to increase
( We seem way behind the research in other countries, consequently, we still using old tools, fert, spraying, costly pharma to control worms, etc. )

There was no show in kenmare today, just a special weanling sale, I might have bumped into you Track9. But I didn't hang around. Sold a few bulls there. I was happy enough, ranged between €2.72 to €3 a kilo. 1 lad seemed to be buying everything so long as they were between 330-370 Kilos. Heavier bulls were tough sold as was anything on the plain side.

ruwithme · 10-06-2021 11:31PM

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Nothing overly special there as regards prices but stock always seem cheaper the further south you head. Without seeing the stock it's hard to comment. Out of interest why did you hold until now to sell them?

A cattle man of many years more than I'm old recently told me about something my uncle,a older man again ,now deceased said to him many years ago, "weanlings should be sold in their wedding clothes " i thought it a good one & true.

Track9 · 11-06-2021 02:36AM

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Nothing overly special there as regards prices but stock always seems cheaper the further south you head. Without seeing the stock it's hard to comment. Out of interest why did you hold until now to sell them?

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Why did I hold them until now?
That was a mistake as had them lined up for mid-May, not mid-June. ( There was so much going on I just didn't get to move them )
Sold the comrades in March for the same money
The three Sime x Char Crosses were nice square cattle, they had cleaned up.
The Sime crosses were the right colour & confirmation
My take on it, not enough competition in buyers.
Next time, if a sale is a special gold plated & it's June I won't be going.
We not paid for our costs .
I have known this a good few years now, indeed was berated in our discussion group for bringing that up.

Albert Johnson · 11-06-2021 09:44AM

Track9 wrote: »

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Why did I hold them until now?
That was a mistake as had them lined up for mid-May, not mid-June. ( There was so much going on I just didn't get to move them )
Sold the comrades in March for the same money
The three Sime x Char Crosses were nice square cattle, they had cleaned up.
The Sime crosses were the right colour & confirmation
My take on it, not enough competition in buyers.
Next time, if a sale is a special gold plated & it's June I won't be going.
We not paid for our costs .
I have known this a good few years now, indeed was berated in our discussion group for bringing that up.

Cattle were dearest imo in late January and early February, they had gained little more in price by late March and would have the difference consumed in cost's. That's why I asked as small cattle are rarely any dearer after the 1st of April in my experience and should be sold by then or held until the autumn. There's not enough buyer's atm because anyone buying for the scheme or early grazing has the quota filled with a month or more.

Dozer1 · 11-06-2021 01:00PM

Sold these lads private mixed bunch best 5 avg weight was 339kg and got 850 a head all aug to Sept born and never saw a nut till this week.
One or 2 were worth alot more so I think price was balanced enough.

There were 3 other lads then but good they are gone

Sami23 · 11-06-2021 07:51PM

Dozer1 wrote: »

Sold these lads private mixed bunch best 5 avg weight was 339kg and got 850 a head all aug to Sept born and never saw a nut till this week.
One or 2 were worth alot more so I think price was balanced enough.

There were 3 other lads then but good they are gone

Are they the Mayo Comfort Mats you have there - how do you find them

Dozer1 · 11-06-2021 08:57PM

Yea the green ones https://www.comfortslatmat.com/

Only first winter but great job so far cattle very content and clean on them

Sami23 · 11-06-2021 09:26PM

Dozer1 wrote: »

Yea the green ones https://www.comfortslatmat.com/

Only first winter but great job so far cattle very content and clean on them

I'm seriously considering getting them for a few pens for the Bull and older cows to start with.
Do you mind me asking what sort of money they were

wrangler · 11-06-2021 09:37PM

Dozer1 wrote: »

Yea the green ones https://www.comfortslatmat.com/

Only first winter but great job so far cattle very content and clean on them

They're not a mayo mat though, someones obviously using the name 'comfort' as well. This is what the mayo slat mat looks like.

https://cowcomfort.ie/the-mayo-slat-mat/

Dozer1 · 12-06-2021 08:21AM

Correct wrangler not the mayo ones. I've the price somewhere I'll dig it out

grange mac · 12-06-2021 07:57PM

Sami23 wrote: »

I'm seriously considering getting them for a few pens for the Bull and older cows to start with.
Do you mind me asking what sort of money they were

I put them in 4 winters ago purely for bullocks.... Definitely after paying for themselves
Had issues with heavy bullocks struggling get up on concrete adn slipping all over them. Choice was groove the slats or put these down. Expensive at time, but no doubt will have gone up in price. But I'm glad I have them down. No more lameness either.

patsy_mccabe · 13-06-2021 09:28AM

Neighbour sold a roan coloured heifer in the mart recently for €1650. It was bought on-line up the country somewhere. He's still in shock. He didn't know about the latest fashion. :rolleyes:

Sami23 · 16-06-2021 08:45AM

wrangler wrote: »

They're not a mayo mat though, someones obviously using the name 'comfort' as well. This is what the mayo slat mat looks like.

https://cowcomfort.ie/the-mayo-slat-mat/

So which are better - the Mayo mat or these green ones I wonder.
Seen as they cost so much I'd like to get the best ones available

Bass Reeves · 16-06-2021 08:56AM

Sami23 wrote: »

So which are better - the Mayo mat or these green ones I wonder.
Seen as they cost so much I'd like to get the best ones available

Is it for slats or cubicles

wrangler · 16-06-2021 09:09AM

Sami23 wrote: »

So which are better - the Mayo mat or these green ones I wonder.
Seen as they cost so much I'd like to get the best ones available

Mayo mats make a great cubicle mat but cattle are very dirty on the slat mat.

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