Boating chit chat thread.

fergal.b · 11-06-2021 12:58pm

Cheensbo wrote: »

hi Fergal, thanks for the reply, wasn't sure if this was the best spot, wasn't sure I warranted a thread - will look at starting one up

I should have given a little more detail in my initial post, the boat was stored in a shed for most of its life, but the trailer was left outside so its in a much worse state of repair - thankfully, the transom on the boat 'appears' to be solid but haven't taken the motor off or anything to do a detailed investigation.

The motor does run, we put an impeller, new 2t oil & new spark plugs in it before we started it up (it had been sitting for 4-5 years in the last guy's shed)

We have had it in water, briefly, it floats (yay ) and the motor does run and engage in forward and reverse, but she doesn't go particularly fast or get on the plane, she did get onto the plane at one point but it was short lived and unexplained - it has manual trim which appears to be damaged so not sure if this is the cause of the lack of speed or something else.

Would be happy to pay decent money for someones services - even just to tell us if it's a go-er or a scrapper, we don't really want to sell it without a decent understanding of it's condition to be honest, wouldn't really feel comfortable pricing it or letting it on to someone without knowing true details of it. (probably should have applied that logic when buying - but them's the breaks :pac:)

It would be rude not to post a photo I guess:

She looks good, I would start with a carb rebuild kit as it has been sitting for a few years the fuel can gum up so a good cleaning new fuel and you should be good to go, you could probably do it yourself with the help of some YouTube videos.

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Major Dad · 14-06-2021 8:18pm

Anyone know of a diver on the Northside who would be prepared to dive and scrub boat hulls? Trying to figure out if it’s cheaper than getting a lift-out in a marina.

neris · 14-06-2021 8:55pm

Major Dad wrote: »

Anyone know of a diver on the Northside who would be prepared to dive and scrub boat hulls? Trying to figure out if it’s cheaper than getting a lift-out in a marina.

Where you based? Regular diver in Howth who scrubs on the marina and costs similar to crane

AndyBoBandy · 14-06-2021 9:18pm

Wasn’t there a guy posting here about a year ago thinking about setting up as a hull scrub diver???

Malahide charge me something like €120 to get a sling wash (8.7m boat length) and I like to have a good look around the hull myself, as well as give the propellor a good clean (the barnacles are fcuking ridiculous), and change the shaft anode if it needs changing….

Mick Tator · 15-06-2021 7:27pm

Sad to see the death of the ‘voice’ for many years of the Dublin Bay Hut. RIP.

WINKELMANN .. Carmel Elizabeth … Peacefully, in her 93rd year,
Due to the Government restrictions, a family funeral will take a place privately ………As a mark of respect, the funeral cortège will be passing the yacht clubs in Dun Laoghaire on Friday morning at 9am. ………Family flowers only please. Donations, if desired online, to the RNLI.

HeidiHeidi · 15-06-2021 7:37pm

Mick Tator wrote: »

Sad to see the death of the ‘voice’ for many years of the Dublin Bay Hut. RIP.

WINKELMANN .. Carmel Elizabeth … Peacefully, in her 93rd year,
Due to the Government restrictions, a family funeral will take a place privately ………As a mark of respect, the funeral cortège will be passing the yacht clubs in Dun Laoghaire on Friday morning at 9am. ………Family flowers only please. Donations, if desired online, to the RNLI.

Truly a legend gone.

Even when she could no longer make it down to the Hut (and could barely make it into the clubhouse), right up until Covid put a stop to our collective gallop she was on the balcony in the Irish every Thursday and Saturday before racing - drinking her latte, holding court, marshalling the Committee Boat teams, making sure everything was running ship-shape, and keeping up with the gossip.

She was amazing.

RIP Carmel

Tabnabs · 16-06-2021 12:52pm

Major Dad wrote: »

Anyone know of a diver on the Northside who would be prepared to dive and scrub boat hulls? Trying to figure out if it’s cheaper than getting a lift-out in a marina.

The regulations around diving are very strict now, no more one-man operations. It's a three person job now and the cost reflects this.

Van Doozy · 16-06-2021 2:03pm

Is there an environmental implication associated with scrubbing your boat (which may have a coat of anti-foul on it) under water in a marina?

HeidiHeidi · 16-06-2021 2:06pm

Van Doozy wrote: »

Is there an environmental implication associated with scrubbing your boat (which may have a coat of anti-foul on it) under water in a marina?

I can't imagine it's any worse than scrubbing it up on the hard - the dust/debris winds up in the water eventually anyway!

Major Dad · 20-06-2021 4:54pm

I’m berthed in Malahide Marina and it costs about EUR140 for a sling wash. I have used VC Offshore anti founding for the past two years and whilst it gives a fantastic finish, it dosn’t last long. After about 4-5 weeks there’s a scum on the hull and after 8-10 weeks there is growth. It comes off real easy but it’s a pain having to sling wash at least twice during the season. Hence the question about the cost of a diver.

AndyBoBandy · 20-06-2021 7:16pm

Major Dad wrote: »

I’m berthed in Malahide Marina and it costs about EUR140 for a sling wash. I have used VC Offshore anti founding for the past two years and whilst it gives a fantastic finish, it dosn’t last long. After about 4-5 weeks there’s a scum on the hull and after 8-10 weeks there is growth. It comes off real easy but it’s a pain having to sling wash at least twice during the season. Hence the question about the cost of a diver.

In Malahide myself, used Hempel last year and never again…..

Had a sling wash back in April, and already I’ve 1-2 ft long stuff growing from the waterline?!!

Panjandrums · 28-06-2021 10:06pm

Has anyone left their car around the harbour in Dun Laoghaire overnight?

HeidiHeidi · 28-06-2021 11:18pm

Panjandrums wrote: »

Has anyone left their car around the harbour in Dun Laoghaire overnight?

I have, a few times over the years. No problem at all.

I think the underground car park between the marina and the George is locked up overnight if you're worried about security. I think the Pavilion might close overnight as well but not sure about that these days, I'm going back a couple of years.

Tabnabs · 29-06-2021 3:37pm

Panjandrums wrote: »

Has anyone left their car around the harbour in Dun Laoghaire overnight?

Not unusual to see camper vans overnighting in the carpark beside the slipway, might be an option to park up near them?

Mick Tator · 30-06-2021 12:08am

Back in the day when the Pavillion was a cinema I left my car parked at Man-o-War Steps, loaded gear onto the boat and sailed off. A week or so later my car was recovered but it took me another week to retrieve it - I still believe that the garda who found it took it to Cork to see his girlfriend.

Mick Tator · 30-06-2021 12:10am

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

In Malahide myself, used Hempel last year and never again…..

Had a sling wash back in April, and already I’ve 1-2 ft long stuff growing from the waterline?!!

I've used Hempel for years on my sailing cruiser and was very pleased with it. Used it (brown) this spring on my new motorboat and its OK so far.........

Conchir · 06-07-2021 3:18pm

If any marine motor heads are looking for some present ideas: [url] https://www.reddit.com/r/DidntKnowIWantedThat/comments/nd9vxq/a_coffee_stirring_mini_boat_engine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf[/url]

AndyBoBandy · 06-07-2021 3:34pm

Interesting one from the South Coast;

Former U2 stage manager rescued after 52 days at sea

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0706/1233377-kinsale-rescue/

rje66 · 06-07-2021 7:30pm

Just curious, how would 5 if the 6 sails be knackered. Would they have not been up to it before he left??

Alkers · 06-07-2021 11:31pm

rje66 wrote: »

Just curious, how would 5 if the 6 sails be knackered. Would they have not been up to it before he left??

Found that quite strange also when it said he wasn't moving due to a lack of wind.

HeidiHeidi · 06-07-2021 11:45pm

I presume in the five weeks he was under sail with no engine he hit some heavy weather and they got damaged, and the 10 days he was drifting in no wind was close to Ireland which is when the coastguard was tracking him.

Mick Tator · 07-07-2021 12:12am

No surprise to see the usual totally garbled RTE nonsense/uninformed comment about the engine not working, all he needed that for was leaving and entering port. Solar panels and/or turbine should be fitted and working to charge batteries minimum for radio and nav lights. Would anyone do a transat without one or both of them?

Martinique to here is about 3,500 nm. A voyage like that would usually take 25-30 days in a 52-foot ketch. He spent fifty-two days at sea, about double the norm. He’s lucky he had water, but I suppose alone on a 52 footer he had room.

Photos show a perfectly sound genoa, and the main and mizen are furled on their booms. To rip one sail is an accident, to rip two is carelessness but ….“He said he has to make repairs to five of the six sails on board, as well as the engine and three of the winches before he can continue his journey.”

Winds were favorable for W to E over the last several weeks There was decent wind out there for the last couple of them, not a huge amount but F1-3 most days (and wet!). No storms and Elsa was heading in the other direction. Personally, I think the guy was out of his depth (literally and figuratively) and just got tired. Otherwise, WTF was he at?

neris · 27-07-2021 11:29am

Great result today for the 2 lads in the 49er at the Olympics

https://afloat.ie/sail/olympic-sailing/tokyo-2020/item/51296-sensational-49er-debut-for-robert-dickson-sean-waddilove-with-race-win-in-tokyo

HeidiHeidi · 29-07-2021 9:57am

Jaysus, Prof/Ciara Peelo on RTE just now saying the 49'er guys are being protested by the jury because a harness was overweight.

Could DSQ them from both of today's races 😱

Conchir · 29-07-2021 11:43am

90g overweight too… I know every bit counts and they need to be strict for one design, but that will be sickening if it leads to a disqualification.

HeidiHeidi · 29-07-2021 11:44am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117677712#Comment_117677712

It has - they're gone from race 5 and 6 ☹

Conchir · 29-07-2021 11:53am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117677717#Comment_117677717

Devastating!

I’m not familiar with 49ers, but the measuring process seems tough - dunk the harness in water, let it drain for a minute, and then measure. At least with foils or the hull you know the weight, it doesn’t change. With the harness you’re depending on the absorbency and everything else remaining the same. Gutted for the lads.

AndyBoBandy · 01-08-2021 7:13pm

Couldn’t believe our luck this afternoon when sailing around Howth Head as we were met by a pod of about 12-15 dolphins!!!!

I’d seen some porpoises yesterday breaching, but these lads today were jumping and getting very close to the boat!!

incredible!

HeidiHeidi · 08-08-2021 10:56am

I don't think I've ever seen as many reefs in one place as on this morning's Fastnet start line 😱

I do NOT envy them, that is going to be a rough, tough first 24 hours.....

Manky-looking conditions!!

neris · 08-08-2021 12:31pm

Its a race this year to be enjoyed from the comfort of a chair

neris · 08-08-2021 1:18pm

Storm jibs and heavily reefed mains in few boats in class 2. Wonder what'll they do if they get 35 knots

neris · 08-08-2021 4:42pm

One of the lads who sails with us was doing the fastnet but they had to retire shortly after the start with a blown out headsail.

HeidiHeidi · 08-08-2021 4:52pm

Matt Sheahan on a commentary rib at the start said they'd seen a boat with a big tear in their headsail, I wonder was that them?

There must be 30 or more retired already - a multihull after a collision with a spectator boat near the start, and I saw two class 3 or 4 boats doing what looked like a slow waltz with their rigs entangled before their start. I can't believe there weren't more collisions, tbh, given the conditions.

ETA - 38 retired by 5pm

neris · 09-08-2021 10:29am

First boat a tri was around the fastnet around 8am and is blasting away at 30 knots (according to marine traffic) towards France while the leading monos have barely passed the Scilly isles. 2 Irish boats lying 25th & 26th overall on IRC

HeidiHeidi · 10-08-2021 9:23am

Pata Negra (ISORA crewed and owned, so honorary Irish!) 8th overall - Nieulargo and Desert Star IOS best of the Irish, in the 30s and 40s.

An eagle-eyed pal of mine just pointed out that Rambler 88 seems to have sailed the wrong side of the Fastnet TSS..... whoops 🙈

*gets popcorn

HeidiHeidi · 10-08-2021 9:51am

And Kenny Rumball/Pamela Lee leading in the Figaros - fantastic!

neris · 10-08-2021 10:52am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117731765#Comment_117731765

It showing on yellow brick Rambler came round the fastnet and went straight back inshore leaving the TSS to starboard instead of port. YB isnt the most reliable though as it only updates every few minutes and doesnt always track the actual course sailed

HeidiHeidi · 10-08-2021 11:03am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117732139#Comment_117732139

That usually manifests in boats looking like they've sailed through the TSS though. In this case it's hard to imagine that track showing if they did in fact leave the TSS to port.

It'll all come out in the wash, I'm sure!

neris · 10-08-2021 1:29pm

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This is supposedly the keel of a beneteau first 40 that retired from the fastnet with a leaking keel boat. Another few hours and it could have been worse

HeidiHeidi · 10-08-2021 2:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117732866#Comment_117732866

😳

Bloody hell....

spaceHopper · 11-08-2021 2:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117732866#Comment_117732866

Much like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheeki_Rafiki

https://www.dorset.live/news/dorset-news/emergency-dorset-waters-40-foot-5759533

HeidiHeidi · 11-08-2021 3:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117738216#Comment_117738216

I'd take some small comfort from the fact that they hit something, which at least explains the damage.

Cheeky Rafkiki, I thought the keel just sheared off? With no time to raise the alarm. (I might be remembering that slightly wrong.)

spaceHopper · 11-08-2021 4:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117738538#Comment_117738538

They were taking on water through the keel bolts, the boat had a few grounding and the damage we never properly checked or repaired. The bolts rusted out.

The skipper was in contact by sat phone the charter company but neither realised that it was the keel. After it happened the owner of the charter company was put on trial cleared of manslaughter but found guilty of " unsafe operation of the vessel and of failing to fulfill the requirements of the Merchant Shipping Act."

Company went bankrupt and he has to live with it!

neris · 11-08-2021 4:51pm

A J120 also had issues with their keel on the fastnet. Its not the 1st time a J120 had keel issues in a race. Not sure of the year of the photo but if say there was a bit of a conversation on petra negra if they heard

Screenshot_20210810-234448_Samsung Internet.jpg

HeidiHeidi · 12-08-2021 9:10am

Pata Negra (the hon Irish ISORA crew) have finished in 3rd overall on IRC - fantastic result!! (assuming it holds, obv)

Phosphorus, finished in 5th overall, with a pal of mine on board.

Irish Offshore Sailing currently 22nd overall - they were somewhere in the 70s last time I looked, that's some fight back!!

There are two other ISORA boats doing it 2-handed Polished Manx and AJ Wanderlust, and I feel I should give them a shout for just still being out there!!!

Still a long way to go for a lot of boats 🥺

neris · 12-08-2021 7:41pm

See Rambler88 did the honest thing after the finish and retired after realising their mistake on the Fastnet TSS

neris · 12-08-2021 11:24pm

https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2021/0812/1240486-yacht-sink-wexford/

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Tabnabs · 02-09-2021 10:34am

I have absolutely no connection to this boat and sadly am not in the market to buy currently, but this is a bargain boat for some lucky new owner. Sounds like she is not racing material, but a terrific cruising boat.

https://www.apolloduck.ie/boat/shipman-28-for-sale/675341

HeidiHeidi · 14-09-2021 9:31am

Tom Dolan first around the Fastnet in the last leg of La Solitaire du Figaro race, and now a close 2nd (although it looks like the rest of the fleet will get the incoming wind first, so who knows how long that'll last).

Also, decision is due today on the awarding of the next Americas Cup to Cork or not - I'm not sure how I feel about that, tbh, I'd be afraid that given our track record with these things we'd either make a complete hash of it, or it would actually and finally bankrupt the country. But the fact that we're this close is something, I suppose. (I see what sounds like some last-minute furious back-pedalling by the suits, saying "oh we won't be deciding if we accept the offer until the due diligence is done".... firstly, I'm not sure that's a wise stance to take (if you actually want the gig), and secondly, why wasn't it done already???)

(disclaimer, I know precisely nothing about the processes involved, so that's just my natural scepticism/cynicism kicking in)

AndyBoBandy · 14-09-2021 9:39am

As much as I'd love to get the America's Cup, I can see Dubai probably 'buying' it with a mega bucks bid..... but here's hoping.

I don't really think it's an event we can screw up, as ultimately it's held out on the water. I'm guessing the team shore bases will be the key thing, but surely some locations in Cork Harbour in the port area could be seconded to the teams to set up bases.

Would be a nice little venture to own/rent about 10 Ribs for the event, as there'll be no doubt huge money to be made at an AC.

If we get the AC, do we also get the Louis Vuitton Cup? or is it simply the final race (NZ vs Challenger) we'd get?

I can just imagine some of the 'outrage' we'll read in the next few days though if we do get it..... "It's costing us how much?????", and then when they realise Coveney is a sailor!!

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