Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings

hynesie08 · 12-06-2021 05:21PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

Great to see the crowds of people in stadiums in the Euros...it must be great to live in a normal country.

One that qualified for the euros?

MOR316 · 12-06-2021 05:24PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

One that qualified for the euros?

I don't like the way you word some of your posts but, this one is top notch

Silentcorner · 12-06-2021 05:29PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Just turned it on. Denmark aren’t even that far ahead of Ireland on the vaccination front and have what looks to be a nearly full stadium for this match. Interesting. It’s almost as if there are other ways of managing the risk Covid poses going forward, like mass antigen testing.

There's been crowds in Stadiums since last January...in the US, in Europe over the last few weeks, in Britain over the last few weeks.

Those countries mustn't be following the science surely!!!

Klonker · 12-06-2021 05:38PM

gozunda wrote: »

I think you have a point there tbf. Facebook and twitter specifically seem to be feeding the nutjob conspiracies on vaccines and variants, Nphet and the ever evil Tony responsible for everything from making small children cry to wanting to make sure everyone never leave the island again.

I honestly thought that most of conspiracy stuff came US conspiracy sites. Sadly a lot seems home grown at this stage.

I see you're trying to link anti vaccine conspiracies to people complaining about NPHET and particularly Tony Holohan. You know you can be pro vaccine and also think NPHET have beem advising too stringent restrictions (most stringent in the EU for youngest population btw

) which the government follow to the word unfortunately as they're too afraid to take any responsibility for making any decisions. But keep throwing us all into the same bracket if that's what makes you happy, we're probably all climate change deniers too!

CruelSummer · 12-06-2021 05:47PM

Devastating to see Eriksen collapse on the pitch in Denmark, especially after such a tough year for players & the people of Europe.

Ted_YNWA · 12-06-2021 05:48PM

Tenger wrote: »

All fully vaccinated with daily rapid antigen testing in place. Restrictions can be lifted with a robust vaccination and testing regime in place.

Don't be a gob****e and try to pretend it's all an elitist propaganda effort to subdue the population.

Whatsisname wrote: »

Thats exactly what I said isn't it? don't be a gob****e and put words into others mouths.

Mod

Can everyone stop being gob****es.

MOR316 · 12-06-2021 05:49PM

gozunda wrote: »

I think you have a point there tbf. Facebook and twitter specifically seem to be feeding the nutjob conspiracies on vaccines and variants, Nphet and the ever evil Tony responsible for everything from making small children cry to wanting to make sure everyone never leave the island again.

I honestly thought that most of conspiracy stuff came US conspiracy sites. Sadly a lot seems home grown at this stage.

Like everything, there is a balance.

Is Tony big and evil? No!
Has he and NPHET messed up on several occasions? Yes!

The last one cannot be denied and questions should be asked about some of those things!

However, I understand there is a pandemic going on and things have to be restricted. Doesn't mean I have to like it and it's human nature for people to lash out. Especially the last year as we're not used to this type of thing.

The Government haven't helped at all during all of this. Majority of times, they have lacked leadership skills and communication skills with the public and it leads to the unrest.

I'm not anti vax. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. In fact, I've actually convinced people to take the vaccine when they were originally not in favour of it. But, the behaviours and wordings of some of the figureheads during all of this even make me go, "Really?" and that feeds the conspiracy theories.

AckwelFoley · 12-06-2021 07:04PM

gozunda wrote: »

I think you have a point there tbf. Facebook and twitter specifically seem to be feeding the nutjob conspiracies on vaccines and variants, Nphet and the ever evil Tony responsible for everything from making small children cry to wanting to make sure everyone never leave the island again.

I honestly thought that most of conspiracy stuff came US conspiracy sites. Sadly a lot seems home grown at this stage.

There's a tramp in athlone that is going around making an absolute pest of herself.

Covid is a lie. It's all a plan. Vaccines have the baby embryos in them.

My favourite is this cracker..
She insists that they're vaccinating children in school to turn them into gays. Proof is clear as day.

More vaccines in the last 20 years so it's no coincidence they're are more gays.

Pretty bullet proof logic that.

Facepalm. Rolleyes etc etc

pm1977x · 12-06-2021 07:20PM

TefalBrain wrote: »

Just rode by a bar in Dublin about an hour ago and amazing to see people outside eating and drinking enjoying themselves, mostly younger folk who've been hit hardest by the restrictions the last 16 months.

Hasn't bothered me that much as I'm older and grumpier than most and happy enough in my own skin but that age group need this badly for their own mental health.

Onward and upward.

From what I've seen the younger folk have been meeting up and hanging out plenty over the last 16 months, don't really buy the 'hardest hit' narrative, they already live half their lives online so were ready to adapt, particularly last summer and Christmas I would say they were the most active and most visible, understandably seeing as they're least likely to get seriously ill.

DebDynamite · 12-06-2021 07:22PM

Mental to think now that there were 25,000 fans in the stadium for the Super Bowl all the way back on the first Sunday in February. You can use the argument that the US are so far ahead of us now in opening, but we’re most definitely ahead now of where the US were at the beginning of February. Not surprisingly, the Super Bowl itself did not turn out to be a super-spreader event.

Meanwhile we have a couple hundred people at an outdoors gig in pods in roped-off sections of the crowd. It’s like other countries haven’t tried these things much earlier than us... :rolleyes:

PTH2009 · 12-06-2021 08:01PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Mental to think now that there were 25,000 fans in the stadium for the Super Bowl all the way back on the first Sunday in February. You can use the argument that the US are so far ahead of us now in opening, but we’re most definitely ahead now of where the US were at the beginning of February. Not surprisingly, the Super Bowl itself did not turn out to be a super-spreader event.

Meanwhile we have a couple hundred people at an outdoors gig in pods in roped-off sections of the crowd. It’s like other countries haven’t tried these things much earlier than us... :rolleyes:

Those places don't have the best scientific minds in the world like we do in Ireland

There all wrong and were right

Graham · 12-06-2021 08:06PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Those places don't have the best scientific minds in the world like we do in Ireland

There all wrong and were right

Yeah, that must be it. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile not very far from here:

Boris Johnson has said the government must "be cautious" as it decides whether to end all Covid restrictions in England on 21 June.

Cases are rising as the Delta variant spreads, with details of the next step on the "roadmap" due on Monday.

The prime minister told the BBC it was important any easing of restrictions was "irreversible" and warned that hospital admissions were increasing.

No sign of that happening here, I'd rather keep it that way.

hynesie08 · 12-06-2021 08:08PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Those places don't have the best scientific minds in the world like we do in Ireland

There all wrong and were right

I enjoy your self hating Irishman schtick as much as the next guy, but when you make a comment like that without realizing that we do in fact have a ridiculously high level of world class scientists, it almost comes across like you don't actually know what you're talking about.......

Bit cynical · 12-06-2021 08:43PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Meanwhile we have a couple hundred people at an outdoors gig in pods in roped-off sections of the crowd. It’s like other countries haven’t tried these things much earlier than us... :rolleyes:

The Dutch seemed to have much more serious test events back in March of this year.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/07/dutch-clubbers-dance-study-easing-lockdown-music-event-coronavirus

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Aph2016 · 12-06-2021 08:44PM

Britain delaying by a month, they do not want to let go of restrictions, government overreach needs to be stopped.

Klonker · 12-06-2021 08:52PM

Graham wrote: »

No sign of that happening here, I'd rather keep it that way.

Yeah wouldn't it be shocking to possibly be another 4 weeks in a level where 10,000 are allowed at matches (23rd May btw), indoor dining is allowed and no fines for travelling abroad? Wouldn't it be better to stay longer in harsher restrictions to avoid being longer in less harsh restrictions?

I think it must be a close cousin of the 'stay in lockdown to avoid lockdown logic'.

Yester · 12-06-2021 08:53PM

AckwelFoley wrote: »

She insists that they're vaccinating children in school to turn them into gays. Proof is clear as day.

Nonsense. I've had the vaccine with zero side effects. In fact I feel fabulous.

prunudo · 12-06-2021 08:54PM

Bit cynical wrote: »

The Dutch seemed to have much more serious test events back in March of this year.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/07/dutch-clubbers-dance-study-easing-lockdown-music-event-coronavirus

Dutch being very proactive when it comes to allowing festivals going ahead. Luminosity have an event going ahead in early July and many others planned throughout the reminder of the summer.

https://weraveyou.com/2021/06/dutch-government-return-of-events/

Graham · 12-06-2021 08:57PM

Klonker wrote: »

Yeah wouldn't it be shocking to possibly be another 4 weeks in a level where 10,000 are allowed at matches (23rd May btw), indoor dining is allowed and no fines for travelling abroad? Wouldn't it be better to stay longer in harsher restrictions to avoid being longer in less harsh restrictions?

Funnily enough the prospect of cases doubling every 4.5 days isn't appealing.

Nor is the thought of delaying reopening everything.

If the price to pay is no large crowds at matches for a while longer, I'm ok with that.

gozunda · 12-06-2021 09:14PM

Klonker wrote: »

I see you're trying to link anti vaccine conspiracies to people complaining about NPHET and particularly Tony Holohan. You know you can be pro vaccine and also think NPHET have beem advising too stringent restrictions (most stringent in the EU for youngest population btw ) which the government follow to the word unfortunately as they're too afraid to take any responsibility for making any decisions. But keep throwing us all into the same bracket if that's what makes you happy, we're probably all climate change deniers too!

Not "trying" - just going with a lot of the whacky stuff being constantly pushed.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And the very odd thing- is that those talking about "the science" (which is greta thungberg phrase btw) are those preaching about how good things are in such far flung places such as Florida god forbid. And how Ireland is the worsest ever despite having very low death and case rates compared to our nearest European neighbours and yup even the likes of Floida.

You couldn't make it up - except some apparently do!

PTH2009 · 12-06-2021 09:26PM

Leo and MM must be gone into hiding, both have been very quite lately

Let's hope this new 'variant' doesn't hinder the opening of Indoor hospitality on the 5th July.

hynesie08 · 12-06-2021 09:29PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Leo and MM must be gone into hiding, both have been very quite lately

Let's hope this new 'variant' doesn't hinder the opening of Indoor hospitality on the 5th July.

Ah lad, outdoor dining is open, they'll give you a straw, you can stop clutching at them.

Sobit1964 · 12-06-2021 09:35PM

Spain has opened its nightclubs.....

But dancing is not allowed.

I might prefer this new normal.

Dr. Bre · 12-06-2021 09:44PM

Sobit1964 wrote: »

Spain has opened its nightclubs.....

But dancing is not allowed.

I might prefer this new normal.

That’s like opening a bar but can’t serve drink

PTH2009 · 12-06-2021 09:47PM

Dr. Bre wrote: »

That’s like opening a bar but can’t serve drink

Think they done that in Scotland for a few weeks

More of a late bar man myself compared to nightclubs or Discos (as there referred to in the government plans, is this the 70s or what?). Seems lates bars would be in the same bracket regards reopening

Jinglejangle69 · 12-06-2021 09:55PM

Pathetic we pulled out of hosting the euros.

Absolute spineless cowards.

Cowards.

stephenjmcd · 12-06-2021 10:27PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Leo and MM must be gone into hiding, both have been very quite lately

Let's hope this new 'variant' doesn't hinder the opening of Indoor hospitality on the 5th July.

Give it a rest man for god sake. You get yourself worked up over every little thing.

Our cases, hospital situation etc are all progressing well.

Stop trying to create situations that you get yourself worked up over

It's a nice weekend, go out enjoy it, have a pint or two.

Sobit1964 · 12-06-2021 10:28PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Pathetic we pulled out of hosting the euros.

Absolute spineless cowards.

Cowards.

Its not rocket science. Why dont you get this. There is a world wide pandemic.

Its just either managed better in all the other countries hosting the euros, or they are all antivaxers, or they use an 'antivax playbook', or they will be sorry, or they are crazy right wing trump supporters, or our scientists are better than theirs, or no one cares in ireland, or marketing isnt actually a thing, or shut up and be happy you can drink out side you pint swilling animal - you should be ashamed, or variants, or irish cant be trusted to not make a mess, or the bins, or india, or nepal, or the uk, or someone one somewhere said something on youtube, or we didnt qualify so it doesnt matter....

There is a full deck of replies, lets wait for one of the discredited fauchi fans to pop up and explain why you are silly, and how you need to follow the news they read avidly.... hourly.

Klonker · 12-06-2021 10:29PM

Graham wrote: »

Funnily enough the prospect of cases doubling every 4.5 days isn't appealing.

Nor is the thought of delaying reopening everything.

If the price to pay is no large crowds at matches for a while longer, I'm ok with that.

We're already delaying opening everything. Is that not the point you were trying to make?

Yeah the premiership match crowds is what caused the spread of the Indian variant, you may let Boris know of your discovery!

Klonker · 12-06-2021 10:35PM

gozunda wrote: »

Not "trying" - just going with a lot of the whacky stuff being constantly pushed.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And the very odd thing- is that those talking about "the science" (which is greta thungberg phrase btw) are those preaching about how good things are in such far flung places such as Florida god forbid. And how Ireland is the worsest ever despite having very low death and case rates compared to our nearest European neighbours and yup even the likes of Floida.

You couldn't make it up - except some apparently do!

We could have even lower rates if we stay indefinitely, in level 5 lockdown, surely thats what we should do if we are measuring covid on just deaths and cases. BTW, how do our deaths compare to others when we take account of the population age demographics? Most are fairly in line I'd guess.

Those masks and antigen tests are very anti science, arent they?

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