Dark side of the ring

Agent Coulson · 28-05-2021 4:33pm

Next weeks episode could get dark it's the Grizzly Smith episode.

Jake has been a talking head on a few episodes now, I wonder have been able to get Rockin Robin & Sam Houston talking on tape.

B.A._Baracus · 28-05-2021 6:32pm

So many fake videos on YouTube today. All the "link in the description" yeah right not clicking that :pac:

Anyone help me out with an actual YouTube video?

Ps,
Yar har har :pac:

PTH2009 · 28-05-2021 7:12pm

The White Wolf wrote: »

The Warrior one is probably the weakest one so far this season but that's purely because nothing new was hit upon rather than anything they did wrong.

Interesting to hear from Warrior's first wife all the same.

It wasn't the best but with the A&E Biography episode airing the same week it rehashed a bit of stuff from that

His death was eerie esp with what he said in his speech on Raw

nazmoalex · 29-05-2021 12:53am

Just on the Warrior episode, in the space of 30 seconds JR introduces himself as "The voice of AEW" and goes on to call Warrior narcissistic. Good man yourself. Eejit.

Itssoeasy · 29-05-2021 1:13am

nazmoalex wrote: »

Just on the Warrior episode, in the space of 30 seconds JR introduces himself as "The voice of AEW" and goes on to call Warrior narcissistic. Good man yourself. Eejit.

Well the warrior was a ****ing narcissist. The guy was off his Chuck.

Agent Coulson · 01-06-2021 4:14pm

Mick Foley's A&E is just nice a lot like Mick.

Agent Coulson · 04-06-2021 2:32pm

That Grizzly Smith episode is dark he was an evil, evil, evil man.

Rockin Robin, Sam Houston and the brother who didn't get involved in wrestling all speaking.

The White Wolf · 04-06-2021 5:03pm

Something feels like that episode barely scratched the surface, possibly worthy of a spin off of its own.

ThePott · 04-06-2021 5:34pm

Dark and a real downer alright. Was interesting hearing about the rest of the family as of course it's normally focused on Jake.
Pretty much mandatory follow up if you haven't seen it is the Resurrection of Jake the Snake Roberts.

Thought the piece at the end with Robin and Jake talking to people who have been abused was very inspiring. You have to be proud of how far Jake has come.

The White Wolf · 04-06-2021 5:40pm

Bit of a contrast to the Pillman family as well as at least Brian's sister kept his kids in contact. Was so sad to hear how estranged Jake and his siblings still are.

savemejebus · 04-06-2021 5:48pm

ThePott wrote: »

Pretty much mandatory follow up if you haven't seen it is the Resurrection of Jake the Snake Roberts.

Isn't that just an overlong advert for DDP yoga?

ThePott · 04-06-2021 7:44pm

savemejebus wrote: »

Isn't that just an overlong advert for DDP yoga?

I mean there is that aspect to it but I never got the sense it was all about Yoga, I thought it was a very stirring watch when I saw it years ago, unless it doesn't hold up now.

CastorTroy · 04-06-2021 8:52pm

Not part of the series but I'll put this here as it's also Vice
https://tvline.com/2021/06/04/ridiculous-spinoff-snooki-messyness-mtv-tori-spelling/

VICE has set a premiere date (Thursday, June 17 at 9/8c) and released a trailer for VICE VERSA: Chyna. the authorized and first ever documentary about “the rise and fall of one of wrestling’s most fascinating figures,” whose life was tragically cut short in 2016 following a fatal overdose

There's a trailer at the link but it's region locked

ThePott · 04-06-2021 9:12pm

Yeah had heard they were going to do a Chyna doc but then learned about this one.
I think Dark Side of the Ring is on hiatus after this week's episode too, will be back later in the year.

Itssoeasy · 05-06-2021 6:03pm

Well that grizzly smith episode was all sunshine and rainbows wasn’t it ? From beyond the mat and the other jake documentary I knew that he was a nasty piece of work, but it was good to hear from his brothers and sister who seem to be okay to varying degrees even after the **** they’ve been through.

But yeah grizzly smith was an evil ****er and in a different era he’d have been in jail.

briany · 06-06-2021 3:54pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Well that grizzly smith episode was all sunshine and rainbows wasn’t it ? From beyond the mat and the other jake documentary I knew that he was a nasty piece of work, but it was good to hear from his brothers and sister who seem to be okay to varying degrees even after the **** they’ve been through.

But yeah grizzly smith was an evil ****er and in a different era he’d have been in jail.

The brazenness of showing up to your adult daughter's house with the 9 year old girl you picked up, looking to spend the night, is quite something. It's like he genuinely saw nothing wrong with what he was doing.

savemejebus · 06-06-2021 5:58pm

briany wrote: »

The brazenness of showing up to your adult daughter's house with the 9 year old girl you picked up, looking to spend the night, is quite something. It's like he genuinely saw nothing wrong with what he was doing.

Quite sad that the daughter waited till the following morning to do anything about it though.shows the hold he still had over her.

Itssoeasy · 06-06-2021 6:17pm

savemejebus wrote: »

Quite sad that the daughter waited till the following morning to do anything about it though.shows the hold he still had over her.

Well Jim cornette on his podcast this week talked about the episode which he was a part of, and he was talking about the fact that until beyond the mat came out and it was revealed that his daughter disappeared and murdered, he didn’t even know that had happened and it wasn’t something that was known. The point is that grizzly smith was a master at compartmentalising his life so that people wouldn’t suspect anything.

Agent Coulson · 07-06-2021 7:45pm

Bret's A&E was great and it's so nice to see him happy.

eh i dunno · 07-06-2021 8:13pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Bret's A&E was great and it's so nice to see him happy.

Any where I can watch it?

cena · 07-06-2021 9:42pm

eh i dunno wrote: »

Any where I can watch it?

PM

Headshot · 07-06-2021 10:47pm

cena wrote: »

PM

I wouldn't mind a pm too

Blanco100 · 08-06-2021 1:03am

Headshot wrote: »

I wouldn't mind a pm too

Sent it to me aswell cheers

briany · 08-06-2021 6:23pm

Poor Jake. The raspy haunted tone that he recounts every facet of his difficult life with makes me think he'll never be truly happy, nor has he ever been. If Quentin Tarantino ever wrote a desert road movie, Jake would be the motel owner who's secretly in cahoots with the antagonist while regretting the family he lost due to addiction.

cena · 08-06-2021 6:40pm

Blanco100 wrote: »

Sent it to me aswell cheers

I won't be sending any more links to anyone.

09-06-2021 12:22pm

Glad to see Bret seems to have left all the bitterness behind him now.

The White Wolf · 09-06-2021 1:55pm

PespiChallenge wrote: »

Glad to see Bret seems to have left all the bitterness behind him now.

Meh...as Punk put it once people reserve the right to be bitter.

Bret's anger over the past never particularly struck me as being damaging to himself so who cares really about feelings he had that were entirely valid.

plibige · 10-06-2021 10:45pm

Think I liked that Grizzly Smith episode the least of any. A lot of episodes bothered me, such as the Benoit or the Jimmy Snuka one's.

But at least in those episodes you had people you could hear a positive story from in it. Particularly David Benoit reuniting with Nancy's sister, made that story a bit easier.

And the near moment of justice with Jimmy Snuka at the end of his life was something that you could say, well at least the system was trying to get late justice.

But that Grizzly Smith episode left you with nothing to feel better about. A broken family, substance problems, a clear path of destruction. And the only hope is the family is open to the idea of reuniting. Grizzly was an awful human being, we barely got to know anything about him, but his destruction was so obvious in everyone else

Agent Coulson · 11-06-2021 9:20am

Dynamite Kid this week, I hadn't know he had married to Bret's first wife's sister.

She still loves him despite everything he did to her.

briany · 12-06-2021 8:33am

I've watched some of the After Dark companion shows and they feel like a missed opportunity. The production is non existent as it essentially takes the form of a group video chat between the host, Chris Gethard, and a few wrestling people. Some of the guests seem to make more of an effort at looking professional than the host, who appears to be doing the show from his spare room.

But mainly it's just that it is too short, running at a mere 22 minutes plus 4 ad breaks. Yes, FOUR ad breaks. Everything feels real rushed and truncated.

savemejebus · 12-06-2021 11:52am

Biggest takeaway from this episode is that Dan Spivey is Deadpool

Agent Coulson · 21-06-2021 5:05am

Just finished watching Vice’s documentary on Chyna.

So tragic and sad how she was just used by so many people and all she wanted was to be loved and gave herself to them to get that love.

Itssoeasy · 21-06-2021 12:26pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Just finished watching Vice’s documentary on Chyna.

So tragic and sad how she was just used by so many people and all she wanted was to be loved and gave herself to them to get that love.

Haven’t seen it but heard Jim cornette review it for an hour on his podcast and Jesus h Christ but that manager and film crew sound in the words of the late great gorilla monsoon, “pieces of work.”

briany · 22-06-2021 7:55pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Haven’t seen it but heard Jim cornette review it for an hour on his podcast and Jesus h Christ but that manager and film crew sound in the words of the late great gorilla monsoon, “pieces of work.”

The manager/'spiritual advisor' came off as a complete sociopath, making money off her death. The director just seemed insane, saying that he felt he could get closer to her if they did some drugs together, even though the whole thing was about getting her off drugs. You have to laugh ruefully when the director of your redemption story is snorting heroin. If you were to write a black-comedy mockumentary about a former star trying to make a film about their road to getting clean, you'd definitely write in that the whole crew were off their face on drugs. It's so absurd.

but1er · 22-06-2021 9:54pm

briany wrote: »

The manager/'spiritual advisor' came off as a complete sociopath, making money off her death. The director just seemed insane, saying that he felt he could get closer to her if they did some drugs together, even though the whole thing was about getting her off drugs. You have to laugh ruefully when the director of your redemption story is snorting heroin. If you were to write a black-comedy mockumentary about a former star trying to make a film about their road to getting clean, you'd definitely write in that the whole crew were off their face on drugs. It's so absurd.

That memorial and bringing the ashes to it.. Never seen someone with so much heartbreak. Really tuff watch

cena · 23-06-2021 11:09am

Good God. She really had the wrong people around her for the documentary. Chyna really needed to have people that didn't take drugs at all, so they could have helped her.

The manager was only in it for himself, to make money. A good one would have made sure she got the helped that was needed for Chyna

nazmoalex · 23-06-2021 5:30pm

Watched this last night. Difficult to watch in parts, I think 3 lads were disgraceful, don't think any of them gave a **** about her. That line "The bitch is in the house" at the memorial was just so self indulgent and typical of the manager.
It's such a shame she couldn't sort a work visa and just stay in Japan, she seemed relatively happy there.

ThePott · 25-06-2021 7:18pm

Finally got around to watching the Chyna doc.
A real downer, the poor woman. It just seemed like she had no one around her that genuinely cared about her. They all just wanted to exploit her. The worst thing was that while watching it you could see fleeting moments where she could have been happy or saved from her fate.

Well made and insightful but very depressing, the last days and last interview especially. She was done wrong by so many.
The only one who evek slightly seemed like a good person was the producer. Well that and Mick Foley. The manager was a total scumbag.

RocketRaccoon · 25-06-2021 7:28pm

Could anyone pm where to watch the Chyna doc?

The Nal · 26-06-2021 9:09am

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Could anyone pm where to watch the Chyna doc?

Part 1
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x821gw8

Part 2
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x821hjy

The White Wolf · 26-06-2021 12:12pm

Had to stop watching.....stressful viewing.

briany · 27-06-2021 11:42am

I'm guessing the small contribution that Triple H made to the doc wasn't bespoke, but an unused part of an interview from another documentary. Really doubt he'd want to sit down and talk candidly about Chyna because of the accusation that it was his cheating on her with Stephanie which prompted Chyna's downward spiral.

savemejebus · 27-06-2021 4:14pm

briany wrote: »

I'm guessing the small contribution that Triple H made to the doc wasn't bespoke, but an unused part of an interview from another documentary. Really doubt he'd want to sit down and talk candidly about Chyna because of the accusation that it was his cheating on her with Stephanie which prompted Chyna's downward spiral.

I can't say i'd blame him. They needed concrete villains. They directed the narrative in the way they wanted it to go, lots of allusions and 'draw your own conclusion' moments rather than actually saying stuff out loud. No mention of the gang rape in college that was likely the real start of the spiral.

Having Sean Waltman in it without referencing Chyna's accusations of him drugging her to make the initial sex tape and selling it without her knowledge doesn't portray these film makers well either.

CastorTroy · 17-07-2021 11:39am

For anyone who enjoyed the format, I see they've started showing Dark Side of the 90s, though the first episode seemed a lot lighter than Ring. Was about trash TV/Jerry Springer

Reebrock · 17-07-2021 7:13pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117523844#Comment_117523844

I was wondering this too. I'm interested in the origins of quite a bit of this footage in fairness / the backstory to the original scummy creators losing rights also.

Agent Coulson · 01-09-2021 6:06am

Returns on the 16th with The Plane Ride from Hell.

Then it will be the Chris Kanyon episode,

FMW

Bikers, Bombs & Bedlem Johnny K9,

Luna Vachon

Rob Black XPW

The Steroid Trial will close the season.

PTH2009 · 06-09-2021 8:46pm

Looking forward to part 2 of the season

Agent Coulson · 13-09-2021 10:53pm

Preview episode out with Jericho taking about the series and also how his match with Nic Gage in AEW and why he was happy to do a Death Match.

Also this FMW episode might just be the last we every hear from Terry Funk.

They also got to interview Jerry McDevitt for the steroid trial episode.

McDevitt was Jim Neidhart's lawyer before he was Vince and the WWE's.

cena · 16-09-2021 9:46pm

Does anyone know if the new season will be on tv here

Agent Coulson · 17-09-2021 7:11am

The first episode back is the Plane Ride From Hell.

The flight attendant was sexually assaulted and assaulted by Flair and Hall and you can hear the fear in her voice all these years later.

Flair got away scott free because he was a made man according to JR.

RVD saying wrestlers liked to drug women and rape them

Tommy Dreamer doing a lot of victim blaming in the episode.

Dark side of the ring

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