VW ID.3

THE ALM · 05-06-2021 03:31PM

DrPhilG wrote: »

Hmm, tell me more. I had a demo for a weekend and drove from Donegal to Belfast.

I had the car set to miles as I'm a Philistine.

The dash speed limit display continued to show the speed limit in km regardless of what side of the border I was so when I went North, in a 60 zone it was showing 100 inside the red circle.

Did you experience different results?

DrPhilG, maybe phrased in wrong. Car set to kmh and continued to show kmh speed signs on the dash when over the border although they would flash up correctly in mph and the car would travel at the correct speed and ignore the kmh shown on the dash.

THE ALM · 05-06-2021 05:51PM

Back up to the Zappi and plugged in and away it went, temperamental...here's hoping when I go back it is charged.

Avoiding looking at the app as it gave a sycronising error the last time, which I don't know if it was related or not.

remoteboy · 05-06-2021 06:12PM

remoteboy wrote: »

Took one for a test drive today. Very impressed with the ride and more spacious than I’d imagined too.

The test car was a 1st but they’re not available anymore so trying to figure out what trim suits best. At the risk of sounding stupid, is the Business trim only for commercial customers? And is the Style not available anymore?

I’m testing an e-Niro and possibly an ioniq tomorrow. I feel like they’ll pale in comparison.

So finally got around to testing the Ioniq and the eNiro (plus took another spin in an ID3).

The Ioniq was fine but unremarkable. The brakes were very soft but the dealer said the car had only just arrived in and hadn’t been given the once over. Eco mode was sluggish (like dragging a trailer). Sport mode was nice (if wasteful) and normal mode was grand. The overall experience was kinda pedestrian (if you’ll excuse the pun).

The eNiro was surprisingly good. Expected it to handle poorly, given its size, but really nimble and actually quite fun to drive. Sport mode was great craic. Lots of room in the cabin and the boot and can take a roof rack which is a bonus.

The ID3 (style model this time) was as good as I remember. Fun to drive. More spacious than it looks. Wasn’t mad on the interior though.

I’m really torn between the eNiro and the ID3 at this point. Not a lot to tell between them. Looking at the Family trim on the ID3 so they’re both coming in at a similar price. I liked the design on the ID3 software but found the eNiro more intuitive to use. Lots of thinking to do this weekend.

ewj1978 · 05-06-2021 07:33PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What sort average speed on Motorway and how much of it was Motorway.

After Kilkenny it's all motorway to Belfast. Kept it set at 112km/h (70 miles)
Around the n-8: m50 was slow. 60-90km/h
M1-A1 was grand. 112 the full way.
Turned off at Lisburn so the last 5miles was town speeds.

the_amazing_raisin · 05-06-2021 08:10PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Here's Bjorn's video of the id.4 charging, at around 50% the id.4 was getting around 97 Kw. Hoping the larger Battery id.3 will get much the same but who can trust ESB chargers ?

A lot of it seems to depend on your starting SoC, you'll pay a penalty for starting with 50% or more in your battery

I plugged into Ionity with around 60% and was barely getting 60kW, so it isn't an ESB issue

Unfortunately due to the lack of HPCs in Ireland you often have to charge at fairly non ideal locations. Especially since most of them are clustered along a 50km stretch of motorway

DrPhilG · 05-06-2021 09:12PM

remoteboy wrote: »

I’m really torn between the eNiro and the ID3 at this point.

I was in the same boat. 2 things that swung it were the extra trim options in the higher spec ID3, and the super sexy 0% finance.

the_amazing_raisin · 05-06-2021 09:25PM

DrPhilG wrote: »

I was in the same boat. 2 things that swung it were the extra trim options in the higher spec ID3, and the super sexy 0% finance.

Servicing on the E-Niro seems like a bit of a rip off, every year and I think the mileage is quite restrictive

ID.3 has 2 years unlimited mileage between services

ewj1978 · 05-06-2021 10:46PM

I actually came on to ask what is the service requirements? And the above answered it.
So is the services pack worth it if only every 2 years?

remoteboy · 06-06-2021 12:16AM

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

Servicing on the E-Niro seems like a bit of a rip off, every year and I think the mileage is quite restrictive

ID.3 has 2 years unlimited mileage between services

Must look into that

DrPhilG · 06-06-2021 01:07AM

ewj1978 wrote: »

I actually came on to ask what is the service requirements? And the above answered it.
So is the services pack worth it if only every 2 years?

I believe that a 3 year service pack at €18 a month gets your 2 year service, which wouldn't be worth it, but also gets you wipers any time you need them, and one set of tyres if you need them (which I definitely would).

Given that a good set of tyres would run you about €400 easy, it would probably be good sense.

I'm waiting for the dealer to confirm the pack details though.

timsey tiger · 06-06-2021 07:11AM

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

Servicing on the E-Niro seems like a bit of a rip off, every year and I think the mileage is quite restrictive

ID.3 has 2 years unlimited mileage between services

My id3 had a service sticker saying first service due in 15000km. When i rang up the dealer they checked and said it was 2 years or 30000 which ever is first.

the_amazing_raisin · 06-06-2021 08:25AM

timsey tiger wrote: »

My id3 had a service sticker saying first service due in 15000km. When i rang up the dealer they checked and said it was 2 years or 30000 which ever is first.

You can show them this page:

https://www.volkswagen.ie/en/owners-and-users/inspection-and-repair/service-for-electric-cars.html/__layer/layers/ownersandusers/inspectionandrepair/serviceforelectricvehicles/Maintenance-and-inspection/master.layer

Unfortunately I can't link the page directly but there's an option here to see the service intervals, it specifically says unlimited mileage.

There's a display in the infortainment under Vehicle which shows the remaining days until a service is due, other than that there doesn't seem to be any limits

Silent Running · 06-06-2021 08:59AM

timsey tiger wrote: »

My id3 had a service sticker saying first service due in 15000km. When i rang up the dealer they checked and said it was 2 years or 30000 which ever is first.

I think we bought our cars in the same place. I told the salesman that the sticker was going straight in the bin. He mumbled something about looking out for corrosion and some other stuff. Pretty weak, but he's just following the dealer policy. He did have the good grace to look embarrassed.

ewj1978 · 06-06-2021 09:52AM

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

You can show them this page:

https://www.volkswagen.ie/en/owners-and-users/inspection-and-repair/service-for-electric-cars.html/__layer/layers/ownersandusers/inspectionandrepair/serviceforelectricvehicles/Maintenance-and-inspection/master.layer

Unfortunately I can't link the page directly but there's an option here to see the service intervals, it specifically says unlimited mileage.

There's a display in the infortainment under Vehicle which shows the remaining days until a service is due, other than that there doesn't seem to be any limits

Aye display in car says something like 610 days.. no mention of mileage. Sticker on windscreen also only has May 2023

dublinscot · 06-06-2021 01:04PM

Deleted User wrote: »

travel assist should be a blessing on long motorway drives, at least that's what i'm hoping.

It really is a blessing.

I've had my ID3 for 3 months and have put 11,000km on it already (90% motorway).

Makes for a very relaxed drive. Just wish VW allowed you more time with your hands off the wheel before the car starts complaining at you.

Bif · 06-06-2021 01:15PM

dublinscot wrote: »

It really is a blessing.

I've had my ID3 for 3 months and have put 11,000km on it already (90% motorway).

Makes for a very relaxed drive. Just wish VW allowed you more time with your hands off the wheel before the car starts complaining at you.

Hi Dublinscot. What mileage per kw are you getting on motorway driving? Thanks

Silent Running · 06-06-2021 01:45PM

dublinscot wrote: »

It really is a blessing.

I've had my ID3 for 3 months and have put 11,000km on it already (90% motorway).

Makes for a very relaxed drive. Just wish VW allowed you more time with your hands off the wheel before the car starts complaining at you.

If you put your right foot flat on the floor, your knee should be able to touch the wheel. A quick touch with your knee (even through trousers) will cancel the nag. No hands required.

It doesn't need movement or resistance to movement like the e-Niro and Ioniq.

fafy · 06-06-2021 03:30PM

DrPhilG wrote: »

I believe that a 3 year service pack at €18 a month gets your 2 year service, which wouldn't be worth it, but also gets you wipers any time you need them, and one set of tyres if you need them (which I definitely would).

Given that a good set of tyres would run you about €400 easy, it would probably be good sense.

I'm waiting for the dealer to confirm the pack details though.

Great info, keep us posted when you hear back

fafy · 06-06-2021 03:39PM

Question on the service pack, if one bought an ID 3 from dealer A, but dealer B is more convieniently located, can one one get the servicing done at dealer B when the time comes ?

the_amazing_raisin · 06-06-2021 03:46PM

Silent Running wrote: »

If you put your right foot flat on the floor, your knee should be able to touch the wheel. A quick touch with your knee (even through trousers) will cancel the nag. No hands required.

It doesn't need movement or resistance to movement like the e-Niro and Ioniq.

That doesn't seem to work for me, the car doesn't seem to sense me holding the wheel near the bottom, only at the side

I find if I raise the armrest a tiny bit I hand hold the wheel while resting my arm

I have to agree the travel assist is an absolute lifesaver. I was driving with both the kids in the car and no missus to distract them

The travel assist allowed to free up enough brain cells to keep the peace and answer the 20,000 questions my eldest was asking without worrying about ploughing into a crash barrier

The one place where it isn't great is merges. It'd be nice if it could see cars merging and would give them space, but it'll tend to just try and go full speed. I'll generally take control or reduce the set speed at a busy merge just to be safe

06-06-2021 06:03PM

Travel assist can and does receive updates so it will be interesting to see how and if it evolves.

ewj1978 · 06-06-2021 06:14PM

fafy wrote: »

Question on the service pack, if one bought an ID 3 from dealer A, but dealer B is more convieniently located, can one one get the servicing done at dealer B when the time comes ?

Yep, you don't have to go back to the same franchise. Both my cars are bought outside cork but are cork franchises for service.

fafy · 06-06-2021 06:17PM

ewj1978 wrote: »

Yep, you don't have to go back to the same franchise. Both my cars are bought outside cork but are cork franchises for service.

Excellent, good to know !

ewj1978 · 06-06-2021 06:32PM

fafy wrote: »

Great info, keep us posted when you hear back

Looking at tyre prices for the 19" tyre. It's 139 on oponeo per tyre for the continentals.
That's 560 per year for me. No brainer. For me. I'll do 35-40kms per year.

Dealer prices.
S Pack €430 all service components + pollen + brake fluid
M Pack €550 all service components + pollen + brake fluid + front brake pads + wipers
L Pack €650 all service components + pollen + brake fluid + front brake pads + wipers + 1 set of tyres

Silent Running · 07-06-2021 06:11PM

Today's interesting discovery with the ID.3.

Today I was driving on the N25 between Wexford and New Ross, I'm sure many of you know the road or a national road like it: well marked, wide lanes, good hard shoulder and many good long, straight stretches.

I was happily running along at 100kmh using Travel Assist, just nudging the wheel with my knee every 20 seconds or so. I noticed two Motorbikes side by side in the hard shoulder up ahead so I took the wheel and drifted the car from the centre of the lane out to near the centre line to give the bikers a bit more room.

When I let go of the wheel I expected Travel Assist to take the car back to the centre of the lane but it stayed out near the white line. Hmmm, I thought, I wonder... So I drifted the car back in to the yellow line and let go of the wheel, it stayed there! I repeated this a couple of times (empty road) and the result was the same.

Travel assist seems to keep the car where you want it to be. After starting in the centre of the lane by default, it can be set to run near the right or left edge of the lane. I find this incredibly useful, as sometimes I just want to potter along at, say 95kph and let the people in a hurry blast on by. This was always a problem in the e-Niro as it sat in the middle of a wide lane and I ended up knocking the Lane Follow off.

the_amazing_raisin · 07-06-2021 07:44PM

Silent Running wrote: »

Today's interesting discovery with the ID.3.

Today I was driving on the N25 between Wexford and New Ross, I'm sure many of you know the road or a national road like it: well marked, wide lanes, good hard shoulder and many good long, straight stretches.

I was happily running along at 100kmh using Travel Assist, just nudging the wheel with my knee every 20 seconds or so. I noticed two Motorbikes side by side in the hard shoulder up ahead so I took the wheel and drifted the car from the centre of the lane out to near the centre line to give the bikers a bit more room.

When I let go of the wheel I expected Travel Assist to take the car back to the centre of the lane but it stayed out near the white line. Hmmm, I thought, I wonder... So I drifted the car back in to the yellow line and let go of the wheel, it stayed there! I repeated this a couple of times (empty road) and the result was the same.

Travel assist seems to keep the car where you want it to be. After starting in the centre of the lane by default, it can be set to run near the right or left edge of the lane. I find this incredibly useful, as sometimes I just want to potter along at, say 95kph and let the people in a hurry blast on by. This was always a problem in the e-Niro as it sat in the middle of a wide lane and I ended up knocking the Lane Follow off.

Huh, that might explain a few things, there's a couple of times I thought travel assist was holding close to the line, it seemed to make its way slowly back to centre after a little while

I wonder had I set it close to the line and it was holding that line

07-06-2021 08:10PM

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

Huh, that might explain a few things, there's a couple of times I thought travel assist was holding close to the line, it seemed to make its way slowly back to centre after a little while

I wonder had I set it close to the line and it was holding that line

Time to find out

Can't wait to get to try it out, seems like it's taking forever.

Should make my 140-185 Km commute a lot easier.

dmcg90 · 07-06-2021 08:49PM

What's the biggest battery/range spec you can get in Ireland at the moment on the ID3? I'm looking into basically how much range can I get for my buck while still qualifying for the SEAI grant (that isn't a Tesla) and saw reports of a VW ID3 82 kWh model. Is that available here? The VW website isn't transparent with it, to be honest!

eagerv · 07-06-2021 09:00PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Time to find out

Can't wait to get to try it out, seems like it's taking forever.

Should make my 140-185 Km commute a lot easier.

How much longer? 4 weeks or so?

Noticed in the comments of Battery Life's video on the Ioniq 5 that he drove his ID.3 from/to the Ioniq test at 140km/h and got 27kWh/100. That should give you about 285km which would be impressive at that speed (If you were so inclined..:))

fits · 07-06-2021 09:01PM

The 82 kWh is the 77 ‘usable’ that’s in the tour.

VW ID.3

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