Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

robbiezero wrote: »

Why are the publicans unscrupulous?

Where do I start.

Repeatedly breaking restrictions throughout the pandemic.

Jamming people into bars christmas and acting as if it was 2019.

Ignoring requests from politicans to stop serving takeaway pints and ignoring the consumption 100 meter from premise rule.

The vitners constantly on tv pleading to open so old man paddy can have a pint and a bit of company at the bar. - as if they give a ****.

I will draw a distinction between the decent, mostly family run pubs who have abided by the restcions throughout. They are good people and I have huge sympathy for them.

The cartels that own most of the pubs in town are another kettle of fish.

Berlin is a perfect example. It belongs to the trillion group, who have a pretty chequered past. They own ri ra's and a load of other pubs in town, and were busted deliberately breaking resctrions on multiple occasions.

These groups are callous to a point. Public health is an annoyance and doesnt even constitute as an after thought to them. They are a perfect example of wealth over health.

ginoginelli wrote: »

Where do I start.

Repeatedly breaking restrictions throughout the pandemic.

Jamming people into bars christmas and acting as if it was 2019.

Ignoring requests from politicans to stop serving takeaway pints and ignoring the consumption 100 meter from premise rule.

The vitners constantly on tv pleading to open so old man paddy can have a pint and a bit of company at the bar. - as if they give a ****.

I will draw a distinction between the decent, mostly family run pubs who have abided by the restcions throughout. They are good people and I have huge sympathy for them.

The cartels that own most of the pubs in town are another kettle of fish.

Berlin is a perfect example. It belongs to the trillion group, who have a pretty chequered past. They own ri ra's and a load of other pubs in town, and were busted deliberately breaking resctrions on multiple occasions.

These groups are callous to a point. Public health is an annoyance and doesnt even constitute as an after thought to them. They are a perfect example of wealth over health.

Ah yes, another one that wants this to go on forever, just stay under your bed at home if you want to ...

ginoginelli wrote: »

Where do I start.

Repeatedly breaking restrictions throughout the pandemic.

Jamming people into bars christmas and acting as if it was 2019.

Ignoring requests from politicans to stop serving takeaway pints and ignoring the consumption 100 meter from premise rule.

The vitners constantly on tv pleading to open so old man paddy can have a pint and a bit of company at the bar. - as if they give a ****.

I will draw a distinction between the decent, mostly family run pubs who have abided by the restcions throughout. They are good people and I have huge sympathy for them.

The cartels that own most of the pubs in town are another kettle of fish.

Berlin is a perfect example. It belongs to the trillion group, who have a pretty chequered past. They own ri ra's and a load of other pubs in town, and were busted deliberately breaking resctrions on multiple occasions.

These groups are callous to a point. Public health is an annoyance and doesnt even constitute as an after thought to them. They are a perfect example of wealth over health.

You need to do a bit of fact checking there. Virtually no pub did takeaway pints Jan and Feb, the few I know were very low key and there was no hanging outside in groups.

It was only around Paddys, as the situation improved, that it started up again.

The 100m rule is the responsibly of the purchaser, not the pub

Furthermore in a lot of videos I saw the rubbish was mainly from off licences.

Covid fear died last week for good I think. No one gives a fùck anymore. Enough have been vaccinated at this stage that the risks are minimal to the vast majority of the population. Most people are meeting up, organising gatherings and generally getting on with life again.

I for one am delighted we’re getting back to some sort of normality (though there is a fair bit to go yet before it’s “normal” again).

xhomelezz wrote: »

And?

And Tony's tweet was a load of bollox.

Covid is done. The crowds on South William Street were spreading nothing but piss and litter.

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

And Tony's tweet was a load of bollox.

Covid is done. The crowds on South William Street were spreading nothing but piss and litter.

Tony again.. Seriously seek some help.

Piss and litter is ok so ? Do you like to walk in it?

Are you 12 or something.

xhomelezz wrote: »

Tony again.. Seriously seek some help.

Piss and litter is ok so ? Do you like to walk in it?

Are you 12 or something.

P*ss and litter are unpleasant no question.

Do you believe these problems endanger the operation of our healthcare system?

Maybe it’s a non-Covid issue?

Stormyteacup wrote: »

P*ss and litter are unpleasant no question.

Do you believe these problems endanger the operation of our healthcare system?

Maybe it’s a non-Covid issue?

Anything can endanger our healthcare system. It was in deep shìt even before covid.

Yes piss and litter are not a covid issue, agree.

kwestfan08 wrote: »

If it spreads it’s spreading among the youth who it won’t effect and the vulnerable have been vaccinated already?

Some vaccines needs two doses, don't know how far we are on that. Imo we should limit the spread doesn't matter the age, young ones can end up in hospital too. I rather see businesses, shops, factories open, cuz peeps can earn money for living. Couple hundred clowns who has nowhere else to go ( their claim), could screw that.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I was kind of unsure how to feel about all this clamouring for more bins and public toilets, because it's just enabling these mini festivals in the city centre. These kinds of gatherings would be ok in most developed countries but I don't think we're socially mature enough (as seen in the videos) to handle socialising in numbers like this outdoors.
I think the council and the Garda are between a rock and a hard place here, but it's pretty sad that we seem to be unable to behave ourselves in public.
Pubs and restaurants serving outdoors isn't really going to change the situation much from Monday either, if anything it could make things worse, I know I wouldn't want to be eating outside around South William St with rowdy folk all over the place.

You do come out with some pearls.

Concerts, day long festivals, multi day festivals, matches at Croke Park and Aviva.

Big crowds socialising. No problems. Toilets provided. Drink consumed. Organised clear up.

Authorities made a complete hames of this.
Outdoor socialising, but do it yourselves, organise yourselves, but stick to our confusing, nonsensical rules.

Utter incompetence.

After listening to a lady on the Katie Hannon show highlighting the messing about over 2 metre rule. We have stickers and signs all over the place about this and now all sorts of spoofers in authority are blathering about 1 metre being perfectly safe.
More confusion.

Could it be that they (the authorities) really are that clueless.

The pubs at Christmas had the meal requirement which has been proven to have had **** all purpose other than allowing food pubs reopen and act as restaurants

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

I don't think it's low risk, it is low risk. Fact.

70 in hospital, covid is done.

Maybe in your head. It's not that black and white as you think. Anyway enjoy your tiny universe you living in, afraid to stick your head outside the window to see more apart from your Fact.

Not gonna engage anymore. Had enough of you Tony

xhomelezz wrote: »

Huh

Do you think couple of hundred people on the top of each other is a low risk in terms of the spread? Shouting, spitting and whatever else. Wise would be to keep it safe till vaccines are distributed to a certain level of population to avoid any possible clusterfùcks.

Considering the vulnerable are vaccinated as well as thousands upon thousands of healthy adults, I would consider the events of healthy young people socialising outdoors extremely low risk.

What level of vaccination do you suggest we wait until getting back to normal and why do you suggest that level?

Do you think we should wait until 100% of adults are vaccinated? Or should we wait until children are vaccinated too?

I don’t think people realise that town has been packed to the rafters every weekend for well over a month now and there has still been no spike in cases

And even if there was a spike it wouldn’t f**king matter because the vulnerable are vaccinated

User1998 wrote: »

Considering the vulnerable are vaccinated as well as thousands upon thousands of healthy adults, I would consider the events of healthy young people socialising outdoors extremely low risk.

What level of vaccination do you suggest we wait until getting back to normal and why do you suggest that level?

Do you think we should wait until 100% of adults are vaccinated? Or should we wait until children are vaccinated too?

I don’t think people realise that town has been packed to the rafters every weekend for well over a month now and there has still been no spike in cases

And even if there was a spike it wouldn’t f**king matter because the vulnerable are vaccinated

Well no as been pointed out the " vulnerable" have not all been vaccinated. The absolute majority of those vaccinated have received just one dose and some of the at risk categories - four and seven and others have yet to receive either their first dose / second dose .

The stated aim has been to get approx 80% of all adults vaccinated for the purpose of herd immunity. This has been well highlighted.

The current public health advice is to avoid crowded areas and to stay 2m away from others not in your group. If people crowding together can't observe those guidelines then there needs to be some level of intervention because as we know the risk outdoors is low - it is not zero especially where people are socialisating in densely packed crowds.

The fact is the number of new cases overall have not gone down over the last few months- and case numbers are back up over the last few days - so yes most likley we're seeing the effects of increased levels of socialisation. And the thing is - its activities around outdoor socialising - such as mass transport which have been identified as more significant risk of infection.

So yeah there needs to be some proper recognition around these issues.