Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings

ingo1984 · 05-06-2021 07:57AM

Silentcorner wrote: »

He has a very dominating personality, very similar to an arrogant Bishop....he likes the publicity this have given him, he enjoys the power that comes with his position, I think this role has got the better of him, he has succumb to his own weaknesses....

I'll bet he went all fuzzy inside when he heard about the mural they painted of him in Dublin...probably drove over in the middle of the night to look at himself.

The wrong man at the wrong time...we'll see how bad this gets when they finally get about seeing to the nearly 1 million people on waiting lists.

As it stands he also has too public inquirys to answer to when the dust settles.

mightyreds · 05-06-2021 08:01AM

ISOP wrote: »

No they are not

Ok
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-govt-urged-to-lift-restrictions-in-pubs-as-reports-suggest-end-of-lockdown-may-be-delayed-12325185

Dempo1 · 05-06-2021 08:16AM

In less than week UK new case numbers have trippled, whatever side of the argument people are on, surely this has to be concerning. Let's not forget the UK is way ahead in its vacinne program but more importantly let's not forget our own hospital systems remains crippled because of the cyber attack and its almost 4 weeks since that occured. I shudder to think what would happen if large numbers had to be admitted to hospital.

The percentage of new cases in Ireland to our population (which is less vaccinated) to the percentage of new cases in the UK is quite shockingly high.

I'm not scare mongering, I'm saying caution is required. The scenes in Cities in Ireland over the past week are just shocking and not just younger people taking the P*** ( literally). An additional concern is the mindless thuggery also being witnessed with group fights breaking out in day light hours, scene's not normal or acceptable at any time. The video footage of thugs storming that bandstand yesterday, just disgusting frankly.

Finally spare at thought for those struggling businesses that have reopened only to be forced to close earlier and have their businesses damaged by mindless thuggery. Not widely reported on but these S***B**** are deliberately purchasing alcohol outside City centres, certainly not normal shopping and making their way into city centres to cause havoc. Clearly they don't want to S**** & P*** in their own back yards, let's do it somewhere else, it's pathetic. I was working in the UK during the mass rioting, it was not pleasant and what is developing here is eerily familiar.

suicide_circus · 05-06-2021 08:20AM

1. Vulnerable are vaccinated

2. Thuggery is not a covid related issue

Lumen · 05-06-2021 08:21AM

I'm a bit concerned about the exponential growth in moral outrage tbh.

VinLieger · 05-06-2021 08:22AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

I'm not scare mongering, I'm saying caution is required. The scenes in Cities in Ireland over the past week are just shocking and not just younger people taking the P*** ( literally).

Except you are scare mongering because as has been show several times in this thread since last weekend this kind of thing has been happening for weeks up and down the country with no noticeable rise in cases, it just got publicity because Tony tweeted about it. The only spike we are seeing is in limerick and is centred around indoor outbreaks.

pjohnson · 05-06-2021 08:22AM

Seems Dublin needs more public toilets. Damn government forcing youths to do this.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gardai-make-arrests-disperse-large-24253963.amp

Dempo1 · 05-06-2021 08:28AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

1. Vulnerable are vaccinated

2. Thuggery is not a covid related issue

Younger people can still get seriously ill

Thuggery is certainly not Covid related and I did not say it was, Thuggery is a mindset, I'd however like to know what's suddenly causing 1000""s of people to purchase alcohol in supermarkets miles away from city centre locations and then making their way in to cause havoc and deliberately break rules, perhaps Thuggery might be Pandemic related but whatever is going on it needs to stop and immediately.

mightyreds · 05-06-2021 08:28AM

pjohnson wrote: »

Seems Dublin needs more public toilets. Damn government forcing youths to do this.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gardai-make-arrests-disperse-large-24253963.amp

Doesn't mention anything about toilets in that or people going toilet in the street??

hynesie08 · 05-06-2021 08:29AM

pjohnson wrote: »

Seems Dublin needs more public toilets. Damn government forcing youths to do this.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gardai-make-arrests-disperse-large-24253963.amp

Ah sure if there's no bins what are they supposed to do with their bottles except launch them at the gardai?

Dempo1 · 05-06-2021 08:33AM

VinLieger wrote: »

Except you are scare mongering because as has been show several times in this thread since last weekend this kind of thing has been happening for weeks up and down the country with no noticeable rise in cases, it just got publicity because Tony tweeted about it. The only spike we are seeing is in limerick and is centred around indoor outbreaks.

It's all Tony's fault, is that seriously an argument, he was doing his Job and the mayhem continued yesterday. This kind of thing has not been happening for weeks, it started last weekend with further restrictions lifted.

Re Limerick, no, its not just indoor outbreaks, its also Retail, work places and most notably 50 cases traced back to a Salon.

suicide_circus · 05-06-2021 08:33AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

Younger people can still get seriously ill

So what? They're many multitudes more likely to be beat up or hit by a bus when out of a Saturday night. The thing about young people is they feel like they're indestructible, it was ever thus. Leave them alone for the love of god.

05-06-2021 08:40AM

TomSweeney wrote: »

I see the media getting really excited about the case rise in England

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57362508

I wonder with the rate of vaccination in the UK will this cause any real issue for hospitals ? of course not, still won't stop them scaremongering
with "case numbers" and to use this as an excuse to continue with restrictions.

And Ireland of course like a lapdog will just follow the UK so I expect similar measures to take place in Ireland over the next few weeks.

Farce.

Never ending FARCE

Media reports news shocker.

Nothing in the article posted comes to the hyperbolic hysteria that is your reaction to it

namloc1980 · 05-06-2021 08:41AM

Penfailed wrote: »

There won't.

Just punishment beatings instead.

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prunudo · 05-06-2021 08:44AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

It's all Tony's fault, is that seriously an argument, he was doing his Job and the mayhem continued yesterday. This kind of thing has not been happening for weeks, it started last weekend with further restrictions lifted.

Re Limerick, no, its not just indoor outbreaks, its also Retail, work places and most notably 50 cases traced back to a Salon.

'All Tony's fault' is a bit strong but he does share responsibility. He has continually relaxed restrictions after a bank holiday, created pent up demand and failed to understand or allow for human behaviours. God forbid we may enjoy ourselves on bank holiday weekend.
Why are hotels with indoor dining allowed open 5 days before outdoor dining, whether thats a cafe, restaurant or pub, its still safer than sharing a hotel dining room with other maskless guests.

Dempo1 · 05-06-2021 08:45AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

So what? They're many multitudes more likely to be beat up or hit by a bus when out of a Saturday night. The thing about young people is they feel like they're indestructible, it was ever thus. Leave them alone for the love of god.

So what? That kind of says it all really

hynesie08 · 05-06-2021 08:46AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Just punishment beatings instead.

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Oh no, they're gently walking towards them.

Dempo1 · 05-06-2021 08:47AM

prunudo wrote: »

'All Tony's fault' is a bit strong but he does share responsibility. He has continually relaxed restrictions after a bank holiday, created pent up demand and failed to understand or allow for human behaviours. God forbid we may enjoy ourselves on bank holiday weekend.
Why are hotels with indoor dining allowed open 5 days before outdoor dining, whether thats a cafe, restaurant or pub, its still safer than sharing a hotel dining room with other maskless guests.

The CMO has actually not relaxed anything, Government have. But i do in fairness take your points

SNNUS · 05-06-2021 08:48AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

So what? That kind of says it all really

Tiny risk for young people, they will do riskier things living day to day.

Lumen · 05-06-2021 08:48AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Oh no, they're gently walking towards them.

That's not a baton charge. This is a baton charge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1xxxpknkqs

namloc1980 · 05-06-2021 08:48AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Oh no, they're gently walking towards them.

You didn't bother watching the videos I see. Well done.

hynesie08 · 05-06-2021 08:50AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

You didn't bother watching the videos I see. Well done.

The video of the gardai walking towards a group or the one of the group casually walking away laughing?

is_that_so · 05-06-2021 08:52AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

You didn't bother watching the videos I see. Well done.

Having watched them, is there supposed to be a learning moment of some kind? All I see are large numbers of people congregating and some pretty deft pint holding.

namloc1980 · 05-06-2021 08:54AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

The video of the gardai walking towards a group or the one of the group casually walking away laughing?

The Garda beating someone walking away with a baton at the end of the second video. But let me guess, you can't see that? Maybe you should go to specsavers?

namloc1980 · 05-06-2021 08:55AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Having watched them, is there supposed to be a learning moment of some kind? All I see are large numbers of people congregating and some pretty deft pint holding.

Missed the garda beating someone walking away? Excessive policing is never a good thing or something to celebrate, but I'd say a few posters on here are absolutely delighted this morning.

prunudo · 05-06-2021 08:56AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

The CMO has actually not relaxed anything, Government have. But i do in fairness take your points

Tomato, tom-8-o. He advises against opening up, the government implement his advice.

05-06-2021 09:00AM

prunudo wrote: »

'All Tony's fault' is a bit strong but he does share responsibility. He has continually relaxed restrictions after a bank holiday, created pent up demand and failed to understand or allow for human behaviours. God forbid we may enjoy ourselves on bank holiday weekend.
Why are hotels with indoor dining allowed open 5 days before outdoor dining, whether thats a cafe, restaurant or pub, its still safer than sharing a hotel dining room with other maskless guests.

A hotel dining room with residents only is fully traceable. It’s not safety, it’s the ability to easily follow up on any required contact tracing.

Widdensushi · 05-06-2021 09:00AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Just punishment beatings instead.

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Most of the people are running away from the pink shorts

is_that_so · 05-06-2021 09:01AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Missed the garda beating someone walking away? Excessive policing is never a good thing or something to celebrate, but I'd say a few posters on here are absolutely delighted this morning.

Can't say I can see it I'm afraid but will take your word for it. I do wonder all the same what the Socialist Party were doing there.

namloc1980 · 05-06-2021 09:03AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Can't say I can see it I'm afraid but will take your word for it. I do wonder all the same what the Socialist Party were doing there.

Right.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings