Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

31-05-2021 07:38AM

Looking to book non-essential travel to Germany the bank holiday August weekend.

I think I'll take a chance of booking them with a hope that the 17th of July date remains in place.

Will only have one vaccine shot by that date too.

Rosereynolds · 31-05-2021 08:01AM

Lefty2Guns wrote: »

Looking to book non-essential travel to Germany the bank holiday August weekend.

I think I'll take a chance of booking them with a hope that the 17th of July date remains in place.

Will only have one vaccine shot by that date too.

You’ll be safe at that stage!

Hellrazer · 31-05-2021 08:34AM

Van.Bosch wrote: »

So you’ll knowingly bring a positive person onto an aircraft?

afatbollix wrote: »

Even I wouldn't leave the house if I knew I was positive. I was doing the Lateral flow tests all week and had 3 PCR tests in 10 days.

I'd hate to pass it on to anyone and know I might have caused illness or death.

You can get insurance for if you are positive when abroad. I'd take that than flying around with Covid.

johnire wrote: »

Have I read this right?
Are you seriously saying that you’ll board a plane with someone who’s tested positive?
How is this even possible?

UDAWINNER wrote: »

you are reading it right and to think some people actually thanked his post

Marcusm wrote: »

How self-centred would a person have to be to try to insist that an infected child board an aircraft with persons who might be vulnerable? There would be an element of psychopathy on that type of act, a concern solely with one’s own convenience with an utter disregard for others.

JojoLoca wrote: »

I know you are talking about your kids, but Covid positive kid is no different to Covid positive adult. Also kids are not required to wear face masks on the plane (I always disagreed with that one), and you are talking here about going around the restrictions to potentially bringing Covid positive kid on the plane.

the corpo wrote: »

Knowingly bringing a positive person on a plane full of others and knowingly putting their health at risk is a lousy thing to do

Jesus -I really rocked the boat with that one.So any way to answer the question - This decision would only be as a very , very last resort in case we had no other options - we have since decided to book an air bnb if the situation did arise and one of us would stay with the child if it happened. Hopefully we could get one at short notice but we do have 3 days to make plans ie 72 hours from date of test.

So apologies if I upset a few people and I have taken on board what you have said.

Van.Bosch · 31-05-2021 08:37AM

Hellrazer wrote: »

Jesus -I really rocked the boat with that one.So any way to answer the question - This decision would only be as a very , very last resort in case we had no other options - we have since decided to book an air bnb if the situation did arise and one of us would stay with the child if it happened. Hopefully we could get one at short notice but we do have 3 days to make plans ie 72 hours from date of test.

So apologies if I upset a few people and I have taken on board what you have said.

Fingers crossed you don’t need to use the Airbnb! Enjoy the holiday!

Tazz T · 31-05-2021 09:25AM

lcstress2012 wrote: »

I trust them on this too. It’s not going to change, I work in the airport and it won’t survive if travel doesn’t resume on 19 July. To put it into perspective now there are 300 passengers travelling through a day compared to the usual 25-30 thousand during these months!

You should let DublinLive and a few other sensationalist media outlets know this, as you'd think there were thousands heading off on their holiers if you were to go by some of the debates under their 'headlines' on FB.

Tenzor07 · 31-05-2021 10:16AM

Tazz T wrote: »

You should let DublinLive and a few other sensationalist media outlets know this, as you'd think there were thousands heading off on their holiers if you were to go by some of the debates under their 'headlines' on FB.

I have that "Dublin Live" site blocked, awful sensationalist headlines just to get people to click into their miserable site to read a few lines that have little to do with the headline..

The truth is that the Airports and travel in Ireland have been decimated down to 4% by the Government mishandling of aviation, and the 3 main airports combined have less traffic than a regional airport in Turkey right now....

Another 7 weeks and we'll be "allowed" to travel, but of course this can be pushed out until September if they want... Sure we'll leave all those Pilots and aircraft on the ground for another 2 months, will be grand! :mad:

TomSweeney · 31-05-2021 11:04AM

What are the plans for kids and the green travel cert pass ?

Lets see kids are travelling with fully vaccinated parents ?

M_Murphy57 · 31-05-2021 11:12AM

TomSweeney wrote: »

What are the plans for kids and the green travel cert pass ?

Lets see kids are travelling with fully vaccinated parents ?

Irish govt ****ing with families and insisting PCR tests for kids over 7 travelling back into ireland.

Other countries accepting antigen tests or only testing 11 or 12 plus.

But obviously tony was never going to sign off on that. People might have fun.

And this way the empty nester elderly people we've all been protecting can head off on hols without a 2nd thought whilst many families either wont be able to afford or wont want to risk taking their kids away and needing a PCR test to bring them back in.

Same kids/families that are also being asked to pay for the economic destruction reaped to protect the elderly.

So a great result all around.

TomSweeney · 31-05-2021 11:17AM

M_Murphy57 wrote: »

Irish govt ****ing with families and insisting PCR tests for kids over 7 travelling back into ireland.

Other countries accepting antigen tests or only testing 11 or 12 plus.

But obviously tony was never going to sign off on that. People might have fun.

And this way the empty nester elderly people we've all been protecting can head off on hols without a 2nd thought whilst many families either wont be able to afford or wont want to risk taking their kids away and needing a PCR test to bring them back in.

Same kids/families that are also being asked to pay for the economic destruction reaped to protect the elderly.

So a great result all around.

It's sickening allright.

rob316 · 31-05-2021 11:19AM

I want to book Malaga for the family in August, it'll be ok to travel by then yes?

Navy blue · 31-05-2021 11:24AM

Sorry if this has been asked before, but what is the story with visiting Northern Ireland at the moment? The message seems a bit vague at the moment. We have a break booked in Belfast in three weeks and I am wondering if we will be asked for proof of vaccination/pcr test before we check in? I have used my home address for making the booking (which is just over the border) so might they just look at the address and not request anything? Thanks in advance

bikeman1 · 31-05-2021 11:27AM

Navy blue wrote: »

Sorry if this has been asked before, but what is the story with visiting Northern Ireland at the moment? The message seems a bit vague at the moment. We have a break booked in Belfast in three weeks and I am wondering if we will be asked for proof of vaccination/pcr test before we check in? I have used my home address for making the booking (which is just over the border) so might they just look at the address and not request anything? Thanks in advance

Free travel across the 32 counties. No requirement for any proof of vaccination or negative tests. Cork or Belfast makes no difference. Enjoy your trip!

Navy blue · 31-05-2021 11:32AM

bikeman1 wrote: »

Free travel across the 32 counties. No requirement for any proof of vaccination or negative tests. Cork or Belfast makes no difference. Enjoy your trip!

Are you sure Bikeman?

This is from the NI Direct Gov page, but I am not sure if that advice has changed in the last few days:

Travelling to NI from within the Common Travel Area

If you're travelling from within the Common Travel Area and staying overnight in Northern Ireland, you should take a rapid lateral flow device test (LFD) before you begin your journey.
You should only travel if the test is negative.
You should also take an LFD test on days two and eight of your stay.
You should not travel to Northern Ireland if you have COVID-19 symptoms, or have received a positive COVID-19 result.

bikeman1 · 31-05-2021 11:46AM

Navy blue wrote: »

Are you sure Bikeman?

This is from the NI Direct Gov page, but I am not sure if that advice has changed in the last few days:

Travelling to NI from within the Common Travel Area

If you're travelling from within the Common Travel Area and staying overnight in Northern Ireland, you should take a rapid lateral flow device test (LFD) before you begin your journey.
You should only travel if the test is negative.
You should also take an LFD test on days two and eight of your stay.
You should not travel to Northern Ireland if you have COVID-19 symptoms, or have received a positive COVID-19 result.

Note the word - "should" that is an advisory, not law.

I know of 3 groups of people who separately travelled to NI and stayed over (had a great) time in the last two weeks. No questions asked. Don't forget the UK has issued huge amounts of Antigen testing kits for anyone who wants one, so they are freely available as a tool to curb the spread.

Gael23 · 31-05-2021 11:47AM

rob316 wrote: »

I want to book Malaga for the family in August, it'll be ok to travel by then yes?

Yes but any of you not vaccinated will need a PCR test

Tenzor07 · 31-05-2021 11:52AM

bikeman1 wrote: »

Note the word - "should" that is an advisory, not law..

I haven't heard of any checkpoints at the border to look at passports and PCR tests or heard of any hotels looking for them.

I imagine that for anyone living on the border who has to go across for work or visiting relatives then presenting negative tests a number of times a week may get quite tiresome!

M_Murphy57 · 31-05-2021 11:57AM

Navy blue wrote: »

Are you sure Bikeman?

This is from the NI Direct Gov page, but I am not sure if that advice has changed in the last few days:

Travelling to NI from within the Common Travel Area

If you're travelling from within the Common Travel Area and staying overnight in Northern Ireland, you should take a rapid lateral flow device test (LFD) before you begin your journey.
You should only travel if the test is negative.
You should also take an LFD test on days two and eight of your stay.
You should not travel to Northern Ireland if you have COVID-19 symptoms, or have received a positive COVID-19 result.

Its unenforceable and meaningless. Take antigen test every time you cross into the 6 counties? Theres no way to check that.

Tenzor07 · 31-05-2021 12:02PM

M_Murphy57 wrote: »

Its unenforceable and meaningless. Take antigen test every time you cross into the 6 counties? Theres no way to check that.

True and sure if that was the case then they'd want people to take tests... PCR ones as Antigens are just "Snake oil" before you'd go from Dublin to Dingle!

Dr. Em · 31-05-2021 12:09PM

Navy blue wrote: »

Sorry if this has been asked before, but what is the story with visiting Northern Ireland at the moment? The message seems a bit vague at the moment. We have a break booked in Belfast in three weeks and I am wondering if we will be asked for proof of vaccination/pcr test before we check in? I have used my home address for making the booking (which is just over the border) so might they just look at the address and not request anything? Thanks in advance

Contact the accomodation the week beforehand and ask about the check-in procedure. They could always have their own requirements that might not be in the official guidelines. Last summer, I stayed in a place where they made temperature checks at check-in and required guests to wear masks in common areas - nothing too onerous. I'm sure the accomodation would be happy to help.

Feria40 · 31-05-2021 12:09PM

rob316 wrote: »

I want to book Malaga for the family in August, it'll be ok to travel by then yes?

Shouldn't be an issue. If not fully vacinated you will need a PCR both ways. It's possible that Spain will begin accepting antigen later in the summer like some other countries which may bring your costs down a little.

Word of caution though, if you are going ahead with it you should book soon. I am looking at Malaga myself and flight costs for August are probably plus 20-30% since last Thursday night alone (when the date of July 19th for travel started appearing all over twitter).

Helpneeded86 · 31-05-2021 12:39PM

Dr. Em wrote: »

Contact the accomodation the week beforehand and ask about the check-in procedure. They could always have their own requirements that might not be in the official guidelines. Last summer, I stayed in a place where they made temperature checks at check-in and required guests to wear masks in common areas - nothing too onerous. I'm sure the accomodation would be happy to help.

Why would you tell a hotel where you live. I mean its not that hard to google an address. I stayed in the North the weekend it opened.

No one can prove you're from the South and I would say unlikely they care. I guess you will think your accents stands out but think how much notice anyone takes of a Norther accent in a shop or pub in the South...very little.

Dr. Em · 31-05-2021 12:48PM

Helpneeded86 wrote: »

Why would you tell a hotel where you live. I mean its not that hard to google an address. I stayed in the North the weekend it opened.

No one can prove you're from the South and I would say unlikely they care. I guess you will think your accents stands out but think how much notice anyone takes of a Norther accent in a shop or pub in the South...very little.

I didn't say anything about telling them your address????

I recommended that the op should ask the hotel/BnB/Airbnb what their check-in requirements were so the op wouldn't be surprised. Individual accomodation providers can apply their own rules to their own properties.

TefalBrain · 31-05-2021 12:56PM

Feria40 wrote: »

Shouldn't be an issue. If not fully vacinated you will need a PCR both ways. It's possible that Spain will begin accepting antigen later in the summer like some other countries which may bring your costs down a little.

Word of caution though, if you are going ahead with it you should book soon. I am looking at Malaga myself and flight costs for August are probably plus 20-30% since last Thursday night alone (when the date of July 19th for travel started appearing all over twitter).

This 100%. I booked ferry to Spain from Cork with the motorbike yesterday for August/September and just checked an hour ago and those dates are now gone as the cabins are sold out. Prices will skyrocket the next couple of weeks across the board as people in their early 40's get vaccination confirmation.

I personally wasn't going to get PCR tests as im more worried about catching Covid and being sick whilst away so would only travel with vaccination.

Sam Hain · 31-05-2021 12:59PM

rob316 wrote: »

I want to book Malaga for the family in August, it'll be ok to travel by then yes?

Why not save your money and add to your budget and go somewhere nice at a later date?

Feria40 · 31-05-2021 01:48PM

Sam Hain wrote: »

Why not save your money and add to your budget and go somewhere nice at a later date?

Malaga is a beautiful city IMO, but obviously that's just IMO

votecounts · 31-05-2021 01:53PM

Lefty2Guns wrote: »

Looking to book non-essential travel to Germany the bank holiday August weekend.

I think I'll take a chance of booking them with a hope that the 17th of July date remains in place.

Will only have one vaccine shot by that date too.

Is it not the 19th, anytime after that and you will be grand probably need a pcr test with only 1 jab though

rob316 · 31-05-2021 02:09PM

Sam Hain wrote: »

Why not save your money and add to your budget and go somewhere nice at a later date?

Whats wrong with Malaga? Kids want to go and play in a pool, I want to sit at said pool drinking cheap bear in the sun, for 10 days. Beautiful region, lovely people. Can't really ask for anymore

seenitall · 31-05-2021 02:10PM

Feria40 wrote: »

Malaga is a beautiful city IMO, but obviously that's just IMO

Malaga is frickin gorgeous! Just get up the hill up to Alcazaba to experience something lovely, peaceful, beautiful, with breathtaking views all around. And the food is the clincher for me... I’d go tomorrow if I could.

Waiting to see what Wednesday will bring... although probably nothing!

fm · 31-05-2021 02:10PM

Sam Hain wrote: »

Why not save your money and add to your budget and go somewhere nice at a later date?

Jesus there's a dig.flying to malaga in August myself,staying in the city for the first 2 nights which is a great place to visit and then onto Almeria for 5 nights.

rob316 · 31-05-2021 02:11PM

Feria40 wrote: »

Shouldn't be an issue. If not fully vacinated you will need a PCR both ways. It's possible that Spain will begin accepting antigen later in the summer like some other countries which may bring your costs down a little.

Word of caution though, if you are going ahead with it you should book soon. I am looking at Malaga myself and flight costs for August are probably plus 20-30% since last Thursday night alone (when the date of July 19th for travel started appearing all over twitter).

I thought prices would rocket past the normal but its only coming in €100 more than 2 years ago and I have a new baby this time.

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