Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

Hellrazer · 29-05-2021 01:37PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Are you suggesting that they should allow a positive person on the plane?

An underage minor travelling with a parent.
Surely there has to be some leeway?

naufragos123 · 29-05-2021 01:38PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

The fines going to be extended.

They have said the 19th July is the date for Non essential travel.

Non essential travel is an advisory. So that advisory can remain in place until the 19th, the fine doesn't have to accompany it.

Unless you can back up your assertion with evidence that the fine will be extended I'd be more inclined to take note of what that Green TD let slip. Not that I'd have much faith either in what comes out of their mouths but still!

Rosereynolds · 29-05-2021 01:39PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

The fines going to be extended.

They have said the 19th July is the date for Non essential travel.

Have they made this official? Any links?

naufragos123 · 29-05-2021 01:39PM

Ray Donovan wrote: »

Firstly my Aer Lingus flight was cancelled. So booked Ryanair for same day. Then email from Ryanair saying my flight was moved forward 24 hours. Thankfully it still suits.

Did Ryanair give you much advance notice? My flight is in exactly two weeks.

29-05-2021 01:39PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

An underage minor travelling with a parent.
Surely there has to be some leeway?

Of course not. The parent stays with the child.

That's not a new thing or ight for covid either

1123heavy · 29-05-2021 01:40PM

Could it be that the reopening of the CTA has been left deliberately vague so that they can change their position on it at anytime without losing face?

It was essentially left out of the speech, signing up to the EU Digital Cert does not cover the UK.

Hellrazer · 29-05-2021 01:42PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Of course not. The parent stays with the child.

That's not a new thing or ight for covid either

Were just not sure how we would handle it. I asked a genuine question. It looks like we'll have to weigh up our options and decide if it's worth the risk.
Its a campsite by the way so mostly outdoor activities.

PmMeUrDogs · 29-05-2021 01:42PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

An underage minor travelling with a parent.
Surely there has to be some leeway?

They can't allow anyone positive to fly, regardless of age. Leeway can't apply when it means risking the health of every other passenger

Bit cynical · 29-05-2021 01:46PM

Donald Trump wrote: »

The Czech Republic has the highest cumulative infection rate in the EU with about 15.57%

I think however we need to be a little careful about cumulative rates over the whole of the outbreak since early on a lot of infections went undetected.

The Czech Republic did not have many infections in the first phase and really only got going as winter approached. Lacking immunity from the first phase, they were hit hard the following winter. However at this point testing had improved significantly and therefore we're going to see very high numbers for the Czechs compared with a country that had a bad outbreak early on.

29-05-2021 01:47PM

Rosereynolds wrote: »

Have they made this official? Any links?

It was a large part of the announcement and will happen soon enough.

"International travel will resume on July 19."

"I understand the pent-up desire for a trip abroad or to welcome loved ones home," Mr Martin said. For this reason, Ireland have agreed to adopt the EU's Digital Green Certificate from July 19, to allow non-essential travel within the bloc for those that are fully vaccinated or have already had Covid-19."

Mr.S wrote: »

Are people actually getting fined though? Judging by my social feed, lots of people are now jetting away to Sun locations and they for sure do not have an essential reason.

I flew out of DUB recently 3x for work and the Garda checkpoints didn't even ask for a reason, just where are you flying to.

Fines are still being issued but as the list for essential travel is actually pretty broad, most people can bluff it when if they don't have a reason

29-05-2021 01:53PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

Were just not sure how we would handle it. I asked a genuine question. It looks like we'll have to weigh up our options and decide if it's worth the risk.
Its a campsite by the way so mostly outdoor activities.

I'm not judging you. Planning the south of France myself but this is the risk at the moment I'm afraid unless the child is under 7?!?

Rosereynolds · 29-05-2021 01:59PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

It was a large part of the announcement and will happen soon enough.

"International travel will resume on July 19."

"I understand the pent-up desire for a trip abroad or to welcome loved ones home," Mr Martin said. For this reason, Ireland have agreed to adopt the EU's Digital Green Certificate from July 19, to allow non-essential travel within the bloc for those that are fully vaccinated or have already had Covid-19."

Fines are still being issued but as the list for essential travel is actually pretty broad, most people can bluff it when if they don't have a reason

It’ll be interesting to see if the extend the fine past the 2nd or not, I think they probably will, but as it stands it will expire on June 2nd.

Ray Donovan · 29-05-2021 02:02PM

naufragos123 wrote: »

Did Ryanair give you much advance notice? My flight is in exactly two weeks.

More than a month. Flying last couple of days In June.

Hellrazer · 29-05-2021 02:05PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

I'm not judging you. Planning the south of France myself but this is the risk at the moment I'm afraid unless the child is under 7?!?

12 and 13...so unless they're vaccinated by August

Van.Bosch · 29-05-2021 02:05PM

1123heavy wrote: »

Could it be that the reopening of the CTA has been left deliberately vague so that they can change their position on it at anytime without losing face?

It was essentially left out of the speech, signing up to the EU Digital Cert does not cover the UK.

Spot on - the website says it will be treated as all other non EU countries but there was a tweet yesterday saying GB would require PCR even if vaccinated.

29-05-2021 02:09PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

12 and 13...so unless they're vaccinated by August

Or have it and recover.

Hellrazer · 29-05-2021 02:10PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Or have it and recover.

Covid party!!!!!

I remember parents in one of the schools having a chickenpox party years ago.

Donald Trump · 29-05-2021 02:42PM

Bit cynical wrote: »

I think however we need to be a little careful about cumulative rates over the whole of the outbreak since early on a lot of infections went undetected.

The Czech Republic did not have many infections in the first phase and really only got going as winter approached. Lacking immunity from the first phase, they were hit hard the following winter. However at this point testing had improved significantly and therefore we're going to see very high numbers for the Czechs compared with a country that had a bad outbreak early on.

I might not have made my point clearly which was that I suspected that the difference in infection rates across countries should not affect opening up hugely.
I was only pointing to the difference between Ireland's "natural immunity due to infection" rate vs. the highest "natural immunity due to infection" rate in the EU. That just happened to be the Czech Republic.

If you took those figures as a rough guideline, then the additional "natural immunity" only adds 10%. Which should only be a couple of weeks vaccination if we needed to catch up on that 10%. I don't think it equates to a Summer of a headstart based on that alone.

SusanC10 · 29-05-2021 02:45PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

Were just not sure how we would handle it. I asked a genuine question. It looks like we'll have to weigh up our options and decide if it's worth the risk.
Its a campsite by the way so mostly outdoor activities.

This is one of the reasons that we have decided not to go abroad until both of our Kids (both 12+) are vaccinated.

afatbollix · 29-05-2021 03:23PM

Flew out of Dublin today.

It's getting busy! The Gardai for T1 was just waving every car into the place. T2 Guard was looking like he was stopping everyone for a chat.

Check in was packed but seemingly the Gardai only know about normal security as fast track didn't have anything.

So I didn't even have to talk to a Guard in the end.

Poor Guards looked so pissed off. But they are only doing what they are told to do....

coffeelover · 29-05-2021 03:56PM

Thinking of going to the US in August/September. I have a US passport so does anyone know what requirements there would be? PCR test before I go and again to come home unless I’m vaccinated by then?

Rosereynolds · 29-05-2021 04:11PM

afatbollix wrote: »

Flew out of Dublin today.

It's getting busy! The Gardai for T1 was just waving every car into the place. T2 Guard was looking like he was stopping everyone for a chat.

Check in was packed but seemingly the Gardai only know about normal security as fast track didn't have anything.

So I didn't even have to talk to a Guard in the end.

Poor Guards looked so pissed off. But they are only doing what they are told to do....

We’re there any gardai passed security?

cpw9802 · 29-05-2021 04:11PM

What time did you fly out at? I'm flying in the morning around 7am wonder if they'll be there.

Hellrazer · 29-05-2021 04:36PM

We`ve been wracking our brains all day and decided that we`re going to travel and bring a load of antigen tests with us and test them every few days and if one of them tests positive it will give us time to make different arrangements ie fly to the UK (NI) or somewhere pcrs might not be needed in August. Theres talk that that might be the case.

gussieg · 29-05-2021 04:45PM

rather than using up all your antigen tests, how about bringing an sp02 tester with you, and if it is low, then test to be sure to be sure. going much cheaper on amazon and other places now the major panic has subsided.

beaz2018 · 29-05-2021 05:17PM

Wondering if anyone has a view on this. Planning on going to Majorca in August. Went to Ibiza last summer and it was amazing to get away from this kip for a week. I am wondering if its best to book a package with TUI or just go alone with Ryanair flights and book accom separately.

I know TUI have better protection in terms of cancelling due to failed tests etc (I wont be vaccinated), but im worried if I book with them, will the holiday go ahead at all. I have read one of their competitors saying that TUI are just taking bookings with no intention of going ahead with them this summer. Dont know what to believe.

Any views?

gussieg · 29-05-2021 05:22PM

scuse my ignorance its called a pulse oximeter. failing that a 20 euro honor band will do in a pinch.

facehugger99 · 29-05-2021 05:27PM

beaz2018 wrote: »

Wondering if anyone has a view on this. Planning on going to Majorca in August. Went to Ibiza last summer and it was amazing to get away from this kip for a week. I am wondering if its best to book a package with TUI or just go alone with Ryanair flights and book accom separately.

I know TUI have better protection in terms of cancelling due to failed tests etc (I wont be vaccinated), but im worried if I book with them, will the holiday go ahead at all. I have read one of their competitors saying that TUI are just taking bookings with no intention of going ahead with them this summer. Dont know what to believe.

Any views?

If it was me I'd book flights direct with Ryanair and book accommodation through Booking.com or somewhere that has a free cancelation option up to a few days before.

Van.Bosch · 29-05-2021 05:32PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

We`ve been wracking our brains all day and decided that we`re going to travel and bring a load of antigen tests with us and test them every few days and if one of them tests positive it will give us time to make different arrangements ie fly to the UK (NI) or somewhere pcrs might not be needed in August. Theres talk that that might be the case.

So you’ll knowingly bring a positive person onto an aircraft?

afatbollix · 29-05-2021 05:54PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

We`ve been wracking our brains all day and decided that we`re going to travel and bring a load of antigen tests with us and test them every few days and if one of them tests positive it will give us time to make different arrangements ie fly to the UK (NI) or somewhere pcrs might not be needed in August. Theres talk that that might be the case.

Even I wouldn't leave the house if I knew I was positive. I was doing the Lateral flow tests all week and had 3 PCR tests in 10 days.

I'd hate to pass it on to anyone and know I might have caused illness or death.

You can get insurance for if you are positive when abroad. I'd take that than flying around with Covid.

Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

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