Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

endabob1

sporina wrote: »

My friends father has passed away - and her sister lives in Scotland - can she fly over for the funeral? or would she have to quarantine for 12 days? She has had 1 vaccine ..

Number of Vaccines are irrelevant, she will need to isolate for 14 days or 5 if she has a second pcr test.

More pertinent is that she will have to get a pcr test done and have the results back before flying or she won't be allowed to fly.

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/travel_to_ireland/travel_to_ireland_during_covid.html

ThunbergsAreGo

Few very helpful people in here working at the airport, are you expecting chaos the first few days back

M_Murphy57

Wallander wrote: »

Big if true! Based on last week's case data, which I posted a couple of days back, I would estimate the following countries will be under the 75 mark in the next week or two and therefore green following the update:


Italy, Germany, Austria, Portugal, Czechia, Hungary, Bulgaria, Poland, Finland, Slovakia, Romania, Malta

I cant see it being reported anywhere though a lot of reporting on the cost of PCR tests for families. Surely it would be getting wider mention, so wondering if it's just get more piss poor journalism from the indo?

Thephantomsmask

irelandrover wrote: »

So on the 15th May the Netherlands changed the Irish travel advice. No quarantine was needed and no tests when returning from Ireland. Based on this and the EU travel passport coming in on the 1st July I booked a flight to Ireland on the 9th July.

I assume now that I can't travel on that date?

There is no barrier to flying into Ireland, you need a negative PCR within the 72 hours before your flight arrives and to self isolate for 14 days after arrival. You can exit the self isolation after 5 days with if you have another negative PCR. A family member who arrived into ireland recently got this done by the HSE as their GP said the centres are taking walk ins without referrals. A few boardsies have mentioned the same, getting a free HSE test, further back in the thread.

irelandrover

Thephantomsmask wrote: »

There is no barrier to flying into Ireland, you need a negative PCR within the 72 hours before your flight arrives and to self isolate for 14 days after arrival. You can exit the self isolation after 5 days with if you have another negative PCR. A family member who arrived into ireland recently got this done by the HSE as their GP said the centres are taking walk ins without referrals. A few boardsies have mentioned the same, getting a free HSE test, further back in the thread.

Thats great. Ill be flying out again on the 5th day and i know i can leave self isolation to leave the country.

thanks for teh info.

eltonyio

Was the €2,000 fine extended does anyone know?

munchkin_utd

Wallander wrote: »

Big if true! Based on last week's case data, which I posted a couple of days back, I would estimate the following countries will be under the 75 mark in the next week or two and therefore green following the update:


Italy, Germany, Austria, Portugal, Czechia, Hungary, Bulgaria, Poland, Finland, Slovakia, Romania, Malta

sorry to break the bad news but I misintrepreted the irish independent article in my original post.

The green threshold remains very strict at 25 cases per 100k population per fortnight with a low positivity rate - but this wasnt mentioned in the irish independent as the press release didnt mention it, so most countries are way off this target still .

separate from that, the minister for families was just on newstalk and when put to him that the need for tests will be costly for families with unvaccinated kids, he seems uncompromising on the need for kids to get a PCR rather than antigen test. He did confirm that the free HSE tests will be compatible with the green travel cert so at least one of the tests might yet be free.

BTW- before anyone goes on a solo run against people costing the taxpayer for tests for holidays, if the idea of free tests is to pick up infections in the state which otherwise wouldnt be detected, then having more people (in this case kids) getting tested before leaving the country should actually help the fight against Covid as you will detect more infections and from there track and trace any close contacts and this will reduce the overall spread in Ireland.

As Donald Trump wisely said, the more you test the more covid you find !

Lumen

Wallander wrote: »

Big if true! Based on last week's case data, which I posted a couple of days back, I would estimate the following countries will be under the 75 mark in the next week or two and therefore green following the update:


Italy, Germany, Austria, Portugal, Czechia, Hungary, Bulgaria, Poland, Finland, Slovakia, Romania, Malta

Green is under 25, not under 75.

green if the 14-day notification rate is lower than 25 cases per 100 000 and the test positivity rate below 4%;

Thephantomsmask

Thephantomsmask wrote: »

There is no barrier to flying into Ireland, you need a negative PCR within the 72 hours before your flight arrives and to self isolate for 14 days after arrival. You can exit the self isolation after 5 days with if you have another negative PCR. A family member who arrived into ireland recently got this done by the HSE as their GP said the centres are taking walk ins without referrals. A few boardsies have mentioned the same, getting a free HSE test, further back in the thread.

I'm planning to fly to Germany on the August bank holiday weekend for 2 nights to visit a friend. If I have a negative PCR test before I fly out will that be sufficient for re-entering the country? If i'm only there 2 nights I wouldn't have time to do a PCR test in Germany to fit the criteria.

Van.Bosch

Lefty2Guns wrote: »

I'm planning to fly to Germany on the August bank holiday weekend for 2 nights to visit a friend. If I have a negative PCR test before I fly out will that be sufficient for re-entering the country? If i'm only there 2 nights I wouldn't have time to do a PCR test in Germany to fit the criteria.

It might if you time it perfectly. 2 tests in Ireland would also work. Why wouldn’t you have time on the day you arrive in Germany?

dashoonage

ok...bare with me here....

I'm potentially looking at booking Portugal end of sept. By then I should have had the jabs and will have the green cert thingy.

So... i can then travel to Portugal and come back without needing a PCR or quarantine ?

Is it still the same if Portugal is orange on the ECDC list in sept ?

I assume if it goes red im ****ed anyway :P

Salvation Tambourine

Can anyone explain "Family reunion" as a reason for travel?

My wife and child are planning to travel so my daughter can meet her grandmother for the first time. Does this count?

josip

Salvation Tambourine wrote: »

Can anyone explain "Family reunion" as a reason for travel?

My wife and child are planning to travel so my daughter can meet her grandmother for the first time. Does this count?

Given that your wife will need to care for your grandmother during this time, then yes it is essential.
A printed email from someone on your grandmother's side stating that she requires care, will help if there are any questions.

naufragos123

Salvation Tambourine wrote: »

Can anyone explain "Family reunion" as a reason for travel?

My wife and child are planning to travel so my daughter can meet her grandmother for the first time. Does this count?

I'm nearly certain it doesn't. ASAIK the only family reasons are where you need to help a vulnerable family member. While the list of excuses is long, a lot of what really should be essential, ie family unification, attending to second properties, plus other very valid reasons, are not.

Hold tight until tomorrow to see if the fine will expire or gets extended.

irelandrover

Salvation Tambourine wrote: »

Can anyone explain "Family reunion" as a reason for travel?

My wife and child are planning to travel so my daughter can meet her grandmother for the first time. Does this count?

This is why i was flying home, but i dont think its a valid reason. im waiting to see if the fine is still there. if it is then i wont travel.

IQO

Van.Bosch wrote: »

It might if you time it perfectly. 2 tests in Ireland would also work. Why wouldn’t you have time on the day you arrive in Germany?

Why spend another 80+ EUR if the first test would still be valid?


It should no problem to use the first test to go both in- and out of Ireland, as long as the return takes place within 72 hours after the swab was taken. The location of the lab or testing space does not have to be in the country of departure.

Avon8

If another EU country accepted negative Antigen tests, do we think a negative Antigen test on the way out and a negative PCR coming back into Ireland would suffice? Or would the outbound test have to be checked and passed in Dublin Airport?

Is it right that a six year old can travel anywhere in the EU on the green cert without a pcr? The wording is different in different places?

Salvation Tambourine

Thanks for the replies folks

irelandrover wrote: »

This is why i was flying home, but i dont think its a valid reason. im waiting to see if the fine is still there. if it is then i wont travel.

The fine does concern us. However my wife and child have Latvian passports so we're hoping that she can say she's going home and hopefully that'll be okay.

TomSweeney

Deleted User wrote: »

Is it right that a six year old can travel anywhere in the EU on the green cert without a pcr? The wording is different in different places?

That's the plan with the EU anyway.


So long as they are with vaccinated parents.


How much are PCR tests now anyway ? I will need to get one for one kid - its not ideal but better than 4 of us needing them.

northcider85

naufragos123 wrote: »

I'm nearly certain it doesn't. ASAIK the only family reasons are where you need to help a vulnerable family member. While the list of excuses is long, a lot of what really should be essential, ie family unification, attending to second properties, plus other very valid reasons, are not.

Hold tight until tomorrow to see if the fine will expire or gets extended.

Is there supposed to be some sort of announcement on the fine due tomorrow? Excuse my ignorance, I haven't seen anything about this. I assumed the fines would be extended to the length of the emergency powers act (currently expiring in Nov)

Tenzor07

Deleted User wrote: »

Is it right that a six year old can travel anywhere in the EU on the green cert without a pcr? The wording is different in different places?

From the article in this morning Indo it seems that the PCR requirement is to remain in Ireland, so if you have 3 kids and returning here from holidays then you need 3 x Negative PCR's..

Though I wonder what happens if the 3 kids are all positive and the 2 vaccinated parents with them are all marched off by the Irish army to a hotel for 2 weeks?

Ladylouth

northcider85 wrote: »

Is there supposed to be some sort of announcement on the fine due tomorrow? Excuse my ignorance, I haven't seen anything about this. I assumed the fines would be extended to the length of the emergency powers act (currently expiring in Nov)

Does anyone know where we can check if the fine is extended or not?

naufragos123

Salvation Tambourine wrote: »

Thanks for the replies folks



The fine does concern us. However my wife and child have Latvian passports so we're hoping that she can say she's going home and hopefully that'll be okay.

Not in any way having a go at you because I sympathise with everybody curtailed by that stupid fine and my ire is firmly aimed at Govt. However, another problem with it as typified by this is its discriminatory nature. Irish passport holders can't claim to be going home.

But I do hope you get going without hassle. Another poster said they won't travel if the fine is extended so that will be another family whose lengthy separation continues. But does that idiot Donnelly care! :mad:

Skippette

munchkin_utd wrote: »

sorry to break the bad news but I misintrepreted the irish independent article in my original post.

The green threshold remains very strict at 25 cases per 100k population per fortnight with a low positivity rate - but this wasnt mentioned in the irish independent as the press release didnt mention it, so most countries are way off this target still .

separate from that, the minister for families was just on newstalk and when put to him that the need for tests will be costly for families with unvaccinated kids, he seems uncompromising on the need for kids to get a PCR rather than antigen test. He did confirm that the free HSE tests will be compatible with the green travel cert so at least one of the tests might yet be free.

BTW- before anyone goes on a solo run against people costing the taxpayer for tests for holidays, if the idea of free tests is to pick up infections in the state which otherwise wouldnt be detected, then having more people (in this case kids) getting tested before leaving the country should actually help the fight against Covid as you will detect more infections and from there track and trace any close contacts and this will reduce the overall spread in Ireland.

As Donald Trump wisely said, the more you test the more covid you find !

He's come back on twitter and clarified that HSE tests cannot be used for the Digital Green cert

Van.Bosch

Van.Bosch wrote: »

It might if you time it perfectly. 2 tests in Ireland would also work. Why wouldn’t you have time on the day you arrive in Germany?

I taught it was 72 hours before leaving the country to return home. The flights are 150euro so I might just take a punt and hope for the best.

Thanks for the response.

Skippette

Deleted User wrote: »

Is it right that a six year old can travel anywhere in the EU on the green cert without a pcr? The wording is different in different places?

From what I've read, when myself and the family head off to Spain, adults will be vaccinated but kids 6 & 12 not. So both will require Antigen tests to get to Spain and to return to Ireland the 12yo will need a PCR........

I'm hoping things will become clearer over the next couple of weeks!

normanoffside

Avon8 wrote: »

If another EU country accepted negative Antigen tests, do we think a negative Antigen test on the way out and a negative PCR coming back into Ireland would suffice? Or would the outbound test have to be checked and passed in Dublin Airport?

If the country you are flying to accepts an antigen test that’s all you need to fly out from Dublin.

ahbell

Does anyone know, or even has a guess, how the EU Travel Green Cert will work for an Irish citizen who has been vaccinated in the UK with an EU approved vaccine?

Tazz T

Avon8 wrote: »

If another EU country accepted negative Antigen tests, do we think a negative Antigen test on the way out and a negative PCR coming back into Ireland would suffice? Or would the outbound test have to be checked and passed in Dublin Airport?

The outbound test will normally be checked at the gate along with any other travel docs. And, yes, the antigen test should suffice if the destination only requires an antigen test. This could change if the powers that be want to be difficult, but I think our gov will be under pressure to allow incoming antigen tests under the rules of the digital covid cert, so requiring PCRs on the way out will probably be a step too far, even for our lot.