Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

KanyeSouthEast

I’m a long long time reader of this thread and I understand there’s loads of questions tonight. Could I please ask someone to clarify for me if I and my wife fully vaccinated go to Spain after July 19 for a few days do we still need to quarantine on our return to Ireland?
Thanks

ZX7R

Darwin wrote: »

Have they given any indication how the digital cert for vaccinated people will be issued? Can you apply for it online if you are abroad? And if not, will the HSE card suffice on arrival back in Dublin?

If you're living in a different eu country and were vaccinated in that eu country, you would register in that country.

titan18

The kids needing a PCR test likely kills travel for most families this summer imo.

normanoffside

Van.Bosch wrote: »

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Scenario One – journey originates in a country to which the EU has not applied an ‘Emergency Brake’
If passenger has valid proof of vaccination, no travel-related testing or quarantine will be necessary.

If passenger does not have valid proof of vaccination, they will need to:

present evidence of a negative PCR test result within 72 hours prior to arrival into the country
self-quarantine
undergo post-arrival testing - this will be provided through the HSE

After how many days of self quarantine will the HSE provide the post-arrival testing?

Van.Bosch

titan18 wrote: »

The kids needing a PCR test likely kills travel for most families this summer imo.

Yeah - it’s harsh alright, if kids were safe for school I don’t see why they can’t be safe on holidays.

Rosereynolds

Darwin wrote: »

Have they given any indication how the digital cert for vaccinated people will be issued? Can you apply for it online if you are abroad? And if not, will the HSE card suffice on arrival back in Dublin?

Well it’s completely digital, so no reason to have to do anything in person, so I imagine you can do it abroad. My partner plans to. If I get my second jab before travelling I’ll apply when abroad so I can use it on my return

Gael23

Van.Bosch wrote: »

You don’t.

Scenario One – journey originates in a country to which the EU has not applied an ‘Emergency Brake’
If passenger has valid proof of vaccination, no travel-related testing or quarantine will be necessary.

What is the emergency brake?

Feria40

KanyeSouthEast wrote: »

I’m a long long time reader of this thread and I understand there’s loads of questions tonight. Could I please ask someone to clarify for me if I and my wife fully vaccinated go to Spain after July 19 for a few days do we still need to quarantine on our return to Ireland?
Thanks

No.

If you are fully vacinated you do not need to quarantine in any shape or form. Nor will you need any type of test

Frank Bullitt

Gael23 wrote: »

What is the emergency brake?

Same question.

Feria40

Frank Bullitt wrote: »

Same question.

The emergency break is to cover eventualities whereby any given country has a huge Covid outbreak or serious spread of a variant of concern.

Crucially it will be based on ECDC data and can the break can only be 'pulled' by the EU

JTMan

Am I right in saying that 1 dose of vaccine is sufficient for the EU Digital Covid cert?

Does the same apply for UK travel to Ireland? i.e. 1 dose is sufficient to be called "vaccinated" in terms of the rules?

VG31

JTMan wrote: »

Am I right in saying that 1 dose of vaccine is sufficient for the EU Digital Covid cert?

Does the same apply for UK travel to Ireland? i.e. 1 dose is sufficient to be called "vaccinated" in terms of the rules?

It was suggested that may be the case recently but I've yet to see any confirmation of it.

mickster29

Can anyone tell me what my options are here. Myself and wife are fully vaccinated and booked flights to Greece from Dublin on 9/7/2021 and returning 23/7/2021. Will I have to pay €2000 each due to it being non_essential travel. By the way this was originally booked for last summers travel.
Ta

Szero

JTMan wrote: »

Does the same apply for UK travel to Ireland? i.e. 1 dose is sufficient to be called "vaccinated" in terms of the rules?

The Indian variant has a lower efficacy, versus other variants, after the first dose and a much higher efficacy after two doses. Surely UK visitors should need both doses to be called "vaccinated"?

Gael23

Would someone be able to come from the US quarantine free?

titan18

Feria40 wrote: »

The emergency break is to cover eventualities whereby any given country has a huge Covid outbreak or serious spread of a variant of concern.

Crucially it will be based on ECDC data and can the break can only be 'pulled' by the EU

Is the emergency brake for non EU countries too though so is that based on our crowd rather than ECDC?

KanyeSouthEast

Feria40 wrote: »

No.

If you are fully vacinated you do not need to quarantine in any shape or form. Nor will you need any type of test

Thanks very much appreciated

stephenjmcd

JTMan wrote: »

Am I right in saying that 1 dose of vaccine is sufficient for the EU Digital Covid cert?

Does the same apply for UK travel to Ireland? i.e. 1 dose is sufficient to be called "vaccinated" in terms of the rules?

Entry into Ireland is fully vaccinated. Need both doses to avail of the vaccine piece of the cert

titan18

mickster29 wrote: »

Can anyone tell me what my options are here. Myself and wife are fully vaccinated and booked flights to Greece from Dublin on 9/7/2021 and returning 23/7/2021. Will I have to pay €2000 each due to it being non_essential travel. By the way this was originally booked for last summers travel.
Ta

If you're unlucky enough to be caught in Dublin, then it's pretty likely the 2k fine will still be there. I don't know how much the guards are there anymore though or will it be a case of they enforce it if you're taking the piss.

Fian

JTMan wrote: »

Am I right in saying that 1 dose of vaccine is sufficient for the EU Digital Covid cert?

Does the same apply for UK travel to Ireland? i.e. 1 dose is sufficient to be called "vaccinated" in terms of the rules?

I think this is not the case, may vary from country to country but general rule is 2 weeks after second dose. You will be able to travel with a pcr test though.

JTMan

Fian wrote: »

I think this is not the case, may vary from country to country but general rule is 2 weeks after second dose. You will be able to travel with a pcr test though.

Thanks, some reports had indicated that a single dose might be sufficient but understood that is probably not the case.

rogber

JTMan wrote: »

Am I right in saying that 1 dose of vaccine is sufficient for the EU Digital Covid cert?

Does the same apply for UK travel to Ireland? i.e. 1 dose is sufficient to be called "vaccinated" in terms of the rules?

Pretty sure that the condition will be two weeks after 2nd dose to qualify as fully vaccinated

kilns

Van.Bosch wrote: »

You don’t.

Scenario One – journey originates in a country to which the EU has not applied an ‘Emergency Brake’
If passenger has valid proof of vaccination, no travel-related testing or quarantine will be necessary.

That's from July 19 you are referring to?

CruelSummer

Overall I’m glad to see Ireland move in a positive direction with international travel. The propaganda machine against it for the last week was relentless. It remains to be seen will tourists come as Ireland has received a lot of negative press internationally due to our insular approach up to now.
What my understanding of the travel rules and digital cert for Ireland is:
- You’ll need both doses of the vaccine to get the ‘vaccine pass’ on entering Ireland from an EU state, this will allow fully vaccinated people to not have to provide a PCR test or quarantine
- Children from 7 years and up will need a negative PCR test
- Adults who are unvaccinated will also need a negative PCR test, this will allow entry into Ireland from an EU country without quarantine

From third countries - those who are fully vaccinated can also enter and not have to provide PCR or quarantine.

People wondering about PCR requirements in EU countries, they all vary currently. Spain wants a negative PCR from everyone 6 and up unless vaccinated currently. There’s talk of some nations accepting one shot of the vaccine as a green cert, but not sure if that came to fruition as Ireland has gone for two shots.
The July 19th adoption date seems a bit random but judging on the tone of Government it’s based on vaccination figures both here & abroad.

ionnn

So now that the US has been taken off the Mandatory Hotel Quarantine, if I travel home to visit family and I'm fully vaccinated do I still need to quarantine at home as well?

Panthro

JTMan wrote: »

Am I right in saying that 1 dose of vaccine is sufficient for the EU Digital Covid cert?

Does the same apply for UK travel to Ireland? i.e. 1 dose is sufficient to be called "vaccinated" in terms of the rules?

God I hope this is true.
Mad to head home for a few days!

Marty Bird

On arrival back in Dublin with antigen I wonder is the PCR free or you have to pay for it ?

Happydays2020

Happydays2020 wrote: »

The fine is trying to control behaviour. It was designed to stop people travelling. That is without question,

It is not legally sound and someone will challenge it. That is my opinion.

All fines are designed to coerce people. This one is no different.

Why is it not sound?

Happydays2020

Looks like massive pressure was on:

https://twitter.com/dreynders/status/1398256552893726721?s=21

Keep going with the fine….

Wikidy

I'd be curious to know what the requirements would be for fully vaccinated travellers from NI arriving back into Dublin after July 19. I'd not be confident that Ni will have a digital cert implemented by then.

The Ni equivalent, according to reports, appears to be paper based to begin with, which implictitly suggests that they don't have have an digital option ready, unlike Scotland and England.

People will be arriving with a Dept of Health NI vaccine appointment/record card. Would that be valid for entry?