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Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,063 ✭✭✭✭josip


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    ...We see here in Spain it always bottoms out at around 100/100k, then starts to rise again because all of this is a series of peaks and valleys.
    ...


    This phase will be different, we have vaccines this time around.
    As long as each country can get to herd immunity over the summer, the cycle will break.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,511 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    Must be because they just aren't testing, do you really think less than 25 people in a population of 100,000 have covid ?

    Remember this virus is endemic.

    Israel is doing 2.5 tests/100k people/day. That's more than Germany. Israel's positivity rate is 0.1% and they have around 3 new cases a day per million people.

    I'm not sure why I'm bothering to counter with facts opinions just sharted out of your head.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭Dr. Em


    It is a bit strange that Hungary's cases are about the same as Ireland with the number they are vaccinating. Does anyone have any insights?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,511 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Dr. Em wrote: »
    It is a bit strange that Hungary's cases are about the same as Ireland with the number they are vaccinating. Does anyone have any insights?

    Chinese and Russian vaccines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    Lumen wrote: »
    Chinese and Russian vaccines.

    China's Sinopharm is crap. It's not dealing with some variants. There was a big spike in the seychelles where more than half of the population got Sinopharm, but the south african and UK variant was still infecting people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,684 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Tazz T wrote: »
    China's Sinopharm is crap. It's not dealing with some variants. There was a big spike in the seychelles where more than half of the population got Sinopharm, but the south african and UK variant was still infecting people.

    Why's that Important? (in general) as you can still catch the virus with any vaccine?

    Those vaccines are still 60 or 80% effective against the Corona, so if they keep people out of hospitals and if you do contract the virus then it's nothing more than a dose of the flu would be?

    We have to all move away from using case numbers as a reason to close borders and move to hospitalizations and health service capacity etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭Wallander


    Lumen wrote: »
    Not in Finland and parts of Norway. See the coloured maps above.


    That'll be the Lapland variant getting ready to hit us in time for Christmas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,063 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Wallander wrote: »
    That'll be the Lapland variant getting ready to hit us in time for Christmas


    Sounds like the script for a Mankell book :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57


    Wallander wrote: »
    That'll be the Lapland variant getting ready to hit us in time for Christmas

    I heard it sees us when were sleeping and knows when were awake. It knows if we've been bad or good too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭Ms.Sunshine


    What do ye predict will be said tomorrow with regards UK travel ? End of self isolation for them coming here ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    Wallander wrote: »
    That'll be the Lapland variant getting ready to hit us in time for Christmas

    Sky news are reporting the possibility of an Olympic Variant from the Olympic games...

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 884 ✭✭✭Unthought Known


    dashoonage wrote: »
    Sky news are reporting the possibility of an Olympic Variant from the Olympic games...

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    There's no hope then. That variant will be fitter and stronger than anything we've faced!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    dashoonage wrote: »
    Sky news are reporting the possibility of an Olympic Variant from the Olympic games...

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Brilliant, I’m going out of my way to catch that one :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    Multipass wrote: »
    Brilliant, I’m going out of my way to catch that one :pac:

    its the only way ill achieve my lockdown fitness goals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭patscott27


    Multipass wrote: »
    Brilliant, I’m going out of my way to catch that one :pac:
    Russian ones will have to compete as an independent Olympic variant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    patscott27 wrote: »
    Russian ones will have to compete as an independent Olympic variant

    Those will need to be tested for athlete enhancing substances.

    They should set up a special event for variants this year to see who comes out on top.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Why's that Important? (in general) as you can still catch the virus with any vaccine?


    It's important because their are far more cases appearing in those who have been sinopharm vaxxed. Fortunately, we're not using it.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,344 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Apologies if already posted but why tf extend it if you can just come in from Belfast. https://twitter.com/seandefoe/status/1397897714759835648?s=21 and europe will have a green cert?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,266 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Methinks the 2k fine and the "do not travel" mantra will follow now. So I can well imagine the 2k fine staying until the 31st July, regardless of what is happening with the green cert.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭VG31


    pc7 wrote: »
    Apologies if already posted but why tf extend it if you can just come in from Belfast. https://twitter.com/seandefoe/status/1397897714759835648?s=21 and europe will have a green cert?

    As long as it's just for countries with out of control levels of Covid like India I don't have a problem with it. No European countries, the US or any other country with high level of vaccinations should remain on the list.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,344 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Methinks the 2k fine and the "do not travel" mantra will follow now. So I can well imagine the 2k fine staying until the 31st July, regardless of what is happening with the green cert.


    I can't see how they can have the fine in place after July 1st when the green cert will be official in Europe, absolutely infuriating. 99 people in hospital, 99!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    pc7 wrote: »
    Apologies if already posted but why tf extend it if you can just come in from Belfast. https://twitter.com/seandefoe/status/1397897714759835648?s=21 and europe will have a green cert?

    Extending MHQ doesn't tie in with any green cert. Green cert is for EU countries at the moment.

    MHQ almost certainly looks to be extended but for countries like India etc.

    MHQ is going to exist alongside the green cert, 2 different things


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭lcstress2012


    I’m looking at heading to Spain in august (booked last year). What are the chances of me getting there, keep in mind it’s two months away!

    Surely the non essential travel and 2k fine will be gone by then


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,681 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    I’m looking at heading to Spain in august (booked last year). What are the chances of me getting there, keep in mind it’s two months away!

    Surely the non essential travel and 2k fine will be gone by then

    At this point just wait for the official announcement tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    pc7 wrote: »
    Apologies if already posted but why tf extend it if you can just come in from Belfast. https://twitter.com/seandefoe/status/1397897714759835648?s=21 and europe will have a green cert?




    The law is that you have to quarantine in a designated facility if you have been in one of the listed countries over the relevant timeframe. It has nothing to do with how you travelled from there to the State.



    What you are asking is "why is it a law if I can potentially break it without being caught?" Which could apply to probably almost any law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/24-hours-to-go-how-ministers-are-finalising-details-before-tomorrows-announcement-on-easing-covid-19-restrictions-40476055.html

    Not sounding positive from this at all. NPHET and scaremongering over variants. Why would there be a trade off between indoor dining and EU travel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Hub D15


    It is time to end these restrictions.

    It is time for the government to do its actual job which is supposed to be about improving the economy, creating jobs and ensuring freedoms.

    Instead of doing their actual job - they have forgotten what it is - they are keeping busy by dreaming up ways of stopping travel, ending inward investment, causing job losses and bankruptcies, and removing anything that could make Ireland an attractive place to live, to do business or to travel. And the bill for all of this, they are running up on your cheque book.

    It is time to end these restrictions. If not now, then when?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭Wallander


    mmclo wrote: »


    Interesting to see. Belgium's population is 2.3 times that of Ireland's, so opening indoor dining with fewer than 500 in ICU there is a direct equivalent to opening indoor dining here once ICU cases are lower than 217. That would have meant a closure of indoor dining on 24 January this year and reopening on 26 January - the only two days of the pandemic that threshold has been beaten!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 Rosereynolds


    Wallander wrote: »
    Interesting to see. Belgium's population is 2.3 times that of Ireland's, so opening indoor dining with fewer than 500 in ICU there is a direct equivalent to opening indoor dining here once ICU cases are lower than 217. That would have meant a closure of indoor dining on 24 January this year and reopening on 26 January - the only two days of the pandemic that threshold has been beaten!

    I wonder will there be tribunal after all this. I like how the UK are holding a pretty open warts and all look at what they got wrong, hopefully we do the same.


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