Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

mikeorange wrote: »

You sure about that?

When was that approved? Was just discussed I thought

hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/testing/if-you-are-a-close-contact.

"If you`re a close contact to a person that tests positive for Covid-19 (coronavirus) and you are not fully vaccinated you need to :

get tested for covid-19

restrict your movements (stay at home) for 14 days"

charlie14 wrote: »

I doubt the French or German public say the humour in both authorities getting it wrong and having curfews and restrictions restored due to it.
It is funny that some are now hailing both France and Germany as the countries to follow while ignoring they messed up just last month.

England did not have outdoor dining opened at this stage of our level of vaccination. We will not be at that level (perhaps even slightly lower), until June 7th. when we will be doing so.
Neither did the UK have the luxury of a slower reopening because of their quick vaccine rollout. They had a quicker reopening due of the amount of vaccine they received from a company who reneged on other contracts to supply the UK.

So it's worse to exit harsh restrictions, having to reimpose harsh restrictions again before exiting again than to never leave harsh restrictions on the first. Is that really the argument you're trying to make? Because that's what's happening. Other EU countries (eg Germany, France) left lockdown earlier this year while our line was we won't do that as of we have to take a step back again it'll delay our reopening. They had to go to take this step back but somehow are still on course to reopen before us. How is thta even possible and how do you even try to support it or make it out to be logical or reasonable?

UK got the chance to move slower as they got the vaccines early. Do you really think the UK would be in line with us this year in terms of restrictions of they had the same amount of vaccines as us? Last year when neither of us had any vaccines they were always a lot more relaxed than us when they had even higher rates than us. Do you think they had a change of heart in their management of the pandemic or do you think maybe it might have been to do that they weren't under pressure to open quicker as they were going to be the first on Europe to do so anyway.

Sobit1964 wrote: »

Why 105 minutes - why not 99 or 97.5 minutes?

90 minute match plus 15 minute halftime to allow people to watch the Euros indoors? God forbid there'd be injury time!

AdamD wrote: »

That doesn't make the rule any less ridiculous.

Well then send an email to Failte Ireland.

Or don't partake, vote with your feet and just give out about whatever part you don't like online.

Like I said you won't be missed, they'll be full without you.

thebronze14 wrote: »

Good stuff....Glad to see a good turnout in what must be a horrible issue for so many back home.

As a homeowner whose house has been built with defective blocks, I thank you for the support. We may have to take our protest to Dublin soon...

you all need to temper your expectations

mikeorange wrote: »

Good news, but with vaccines not stopping all transmission, vaccinated people could be spreading Covid unknowingly to people that can't get vaccines yet or won't be able to get to vaccines ever like people with allergies (anaphylaxis)

That really has nothing to do with your question if people fully vaccinated needed to self isolate for 14 days.
If you are fully vaccinated you are highly unlikely to become infected by a close contact that has tested positive nor are you going to require hospitalisation or intensive care.

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Martin has a new variant to be wary of

" We're closely monitoring the spread of the Indian variant across the UK"

Going to be used by NPHET and Martin and the government to push back easing hospitality even further

It's noticeable how the message is changing again in the lead up to them having to come up with a plan for hospitality

Yep, I would imagine 3rd week in July for indoor . Wouldn't be surprised if they pushed back outdoor a week or two as well. Its amazing how the Indian variant seems to have more of an effect on us than the rest of europe. Anyway Off up to the north on Friday for a movie, meal and a few pints.

True but Martin has spent so long rabbiting on about the new 'virus' from Kent since Christmas

Now it's all about caution withy the Indian variant

KrustyUCC wrote: »

True but Martin has spent so long rabbiting on about the new 'virus' from Kent since Christmas

Now it's all about caution withy the Indian variant

It's listed as a variant of concern, vaccines work through and we're ploughing on through them at 300k a week so all good.

What do you want him to say ? Fire away lads go on as normal, he has to say what he's said, catch 22. I'll agree he's a muppet but I wouldn't have expected him to say anything else.

Come July we'll have plenty vaccinated, indoor hospitality likely to reopen around the 2nd week of the month.

People complain about headlines from papers and lines here and there, honestly wait until everything is announced before complaining, we're showing no signs in slowing down reopening.

Klonker wrote: »

So it's worse to exit harsh restrictions, having to reimpose harsh restrictions again before exiting again than to never leave harsh restrictions on the first. Is that really the argument you're trying to make? Because that's what's happening. Other EU countries (eg Germany, France) left lockdown earlier this year while our line was we won't do that as of we have to take a step back again it'll delay our reopening. They had to go to take this step back but somehow are still on course to reopen before us. How is thta even possible and how do you even try to support it or make it out to be logical or reasonable?

UK got the chance to move slower as they got the vaccines early. Do you really think the UK would be in line with us this year in terms of restrictions of they had the same amount of vaccines as us? Last year when neither of us had any vaccines they were always a lot more relaxed than us when they had even higher rates than us. Do you think they had a change of heart in their management of the pandemic or do you think maybe it might have been to do that they weren't under pressure to open quicker as they were going to be the first on Europe to do so anyway.

I really fail to see the logic.
We are attempting to come out of this by lifting lockdown restrictions in phases in accordance with vaccination levels and not having to reimpose them. Yet some here believe we should follow Germany and France who due to getting both wrong last month had to do just that.
Why would we want to follow them when they have already shown the got it wrong rather than the UK where the data shows that so far they have got it correct?

If the UK was more relaxed than us last year then by not listening to their scientists they paid a price for that with case numbers and deaths.
With all the crowing that was coming from the UK linking Brexit to vaccinations then it`s a bit naive to believe they were not aiming to be the first in Europe to reopen, but this time they did listen to the advise. Quite likely also by seeing the mistakes made by two countries that got it wrong, went with a level that shows they got it right.

Yet somehow we should follow they two that have shown they got it wrong once already, rather than the one that got it right. Where is the logic in that ?

PTH2009 wrote: »

Let's hope they work out a solution

Time limits will lead to pub crawls, fast binge drinking and staff getting abused ('here bud I'm not going anywhere I'm been drinking here since')

The North and the UK don't have to go through this sort of time limit crap

Individual pubs are putting time limits on bookings anyway (2.5hrs in my local) regardless of what the Failte Ireland guidelines say to keep business ticking over, nearly everywhere I see taking bookings is putting in a time on the booking when they don't have to. What's the problem ? They're maximising possible business given the reduced capacity and I've no issue with that given how long they've been closed for.

If its not busy you won't be asked to leave, it's pretty simple. The Failte Ireland guidelines are drawn up with the industry input.