Cocaine

Strumms · 24-05-2021 3:22pm

Tomaldo wrote: »

Posters talking a lot about addicts but they're a small minority of drug users. I know many people who take coke but they only do it at weekends or special events, then it's back to work on Monday, where they DO contribute to society. They don't seek or need state treatment for their habit.

They contribute to organized crime syndicates so let’s save the applause.

guy2231 · 24-05-2021 3:26pm

Chavez. wrote: »

What are they like when they're out

Prob not great

I'm guessing you're quite older with a question like that, a good portion of young people students etc. are doing the odd bit of coke every now and again, it's everywhere in clubs and young peoples pubs.

What do you think they are like? Coke is kind of a background drug it doesn't do as much to you as you might think.

The other poster is right, addicts are a VERY small percentage of cocaine users most coaine use is done at social events or on the odd weekends or once a year on a birthday.

Jequ0n · 24-05-2021 3:26pm

Strumms wrote: »

They contribute to organized crime syndicates so let’s save the applause.

So what?

Ash.J.Williams · 24-05-2021 3:27pm

guy2231 wrote: »

I'm guessing you're quite older with a question like that, a good portion of young people students etc. are doing the odd bit of coke every now and again, it's everywhere in clubs and young peoples pubs.

What do you think they are like? Coke is kind of a background drug it doesn't do as much to you as you might think.

As a coke head myself I would say it turns everyone into dickheads

Chavez. · 24-05-2021 3:27pm

guy2231 wrote: »

I'm guessing you're quite older with a question like that, a good portion of young people students etc. are doing the odd bit of coke every now and again, it's everywhere in clubs and young peoples pubs.

What do you think they are like? Coke is kind of a background drug it doesn't do as much to you as you might think.

From personal experience they're mostly assholes when they're on it

Strumms · 24-05-2021 3:32pm

That’s another thing, it’s an outright assholes drug.... Jesus that stuff just induces the very worst assholes and gobshîtes... people having a few beers or a spliff, grand in the main... your cockle headed coke user .. just arrogant and stupid as fûck... not a great combo.

24-05-2021 3:51pm

Strumms wrote: »

............. your cockle headed coke user .. just arrogant and stupid as fûck... not a great combo.

Most are stupid before taking it, they crave the arrogance though so take some daz.

B.A._Baracus · 24-05-2021 4:17pm

I remember when I was 16 I worked in retail and my manager said he previously worked as a bar manager for a pub in town (Dublin) said his little hobby was getting a can of WD-40 and spraying the top of the toilets (men's cubicles) every Friday night. Just to annoy the coke heads.

Always found it funny :pac:

Ash.J.Williams · 24-05-2021 5:43pm

Strumms wrote: »

That’s another thing, it’s an outright assholes drug.... Jesus that stuff just induces the very worst assholes and gobshîtes... people having a few beers or a spliff, grand in the main... your cockle headed coke user .. just arrogant and stupid as fûck... not a great combo.

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I remember when I was 16 I worked in retail and my manager said he previously worked as a bar manager for a pub in town (Dublin) said his little hobby was getting a can of WD-40 and spraying the top of the toilets (men's cubicles) every Friday night. Just to annoy the coke heads.

Always found it funny :pac:

Walk in check cistern , wd40 on it , try another....it’s not really that mad

Gradius · 24-05-2021 6:15pm

"legalise drugs!" he said, stating that it enables criminals and prostitution and murders and people trafficking etc.

Meanwhile, he doesn't have enough of a problem with criminals to stop giving them money, because clearly his personal satisfaction is more important than funding crime.

People talking out their hoop

B.A._Baracus · 24-05-2021 6:39pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Walk in check cistern , wd40 on it , try another....it’s not really that mad

You give people too much credit.
In a place where people are boozed up and or are already coked up going in to the place, it's gonna catch it's fair share of people.

As I said above it's just to f**k with them.

Tomaldo · 24-05-2021 8:25pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I remember when I was 16 I worked in retail and my manager said he previously worked as a bar manager for a pub in town (Dublin) said his little hobby was getting a can of WD-40 and spraying the top of the toilets (men's cubicles) every Friday night. Just to annoy the coke heads.

Always found it funny :pac:

It's funny in a different way, the product (alcohol) he was serving kills far more people than cocaine.

Tomaldo · 24-05-2021 8:27pm

Strumms wrote: »

They contribute to organized crime syndicates so let’s save the applause.

Prohibition does that, they wouldn't have to contribute to crime syndicates if we tried the alternative.

Tomaldo · 24-05-2021 8:30pm

Chavez. wrote: »

What are they like when they're out

Prob not great

I don't really know, I rarely go to pubs in Ireland, even pre-covid. I've never heard of them ending up in hospital or in police custody.

Tomaldo · 24-05-2021 8:34pm

Strumms wrote: »

That’s another thing, it’s an outright assholes drug.... Jesus that stuff just induces the very worst assholes and gobshîtes... people having a few beers or a spliff, grand in the main... your cockle headed coke user .. just arrogant and stupid as fûck... not a great combo.

A lot of non-coke users are very capable of being assholes too. Anyway, as I've said before, you don't have to socialize with them, I doubt they'd miss your company if that's what u think of them.

Gradius · 24-05-2021 8:39pm

Tomaldo wrote: »

Prohibition does that, they wouldn't have to contribute to crime syndicates if we tried the alternative.

"Have to"

It's the equivalent of giving out about pollution while illegally dumping rubbish.

"I wouldn't have to do this if it was made legal!"

If you actually cared about the impact of what you're doing, you wouldn't bloody well be doing it! Zero credibility.

Tomaldo · 24-05-2021 8:46pm

Gradius wrote: »

"legalise drugs!" he said, stating that it enables criminals and prostitution and murders and people trafficking etc.

Meanwhile, he doesn't have enough of a problem with criminals to stop giving them money, because clearly his personal satisfaction is more important than funding crime.

People talking out their hoop

No it's prohibitionists who talk out of their hoop on this topic. As I said earlier the lies they come out with such as cocaine is poison, ur guaranteed to become a thief if u take drugs, the scourge but never the enjoyment of drugs, dealers targeting schoolkids with free samples and so on.

Gradius · 24-05-2021 8:55pm

Tomaldo wrote: »

No it's prohibitionists who talk out of their hoop on this topic. As I said earlier the lies they come out with such as cocaine is poison, ur guaranteed to become a thief if u take drugs, the scourge but never the enjoyment of drugs, dealers targeting schoolkids with free samples and so on.

Ah yes, the ethical philosophers of the Columbian cartels pass their products to pacifist gangs of monks in Ireland, I forgot.

Nothing negative there at all.

Ash.J.Williams · 24-05-2021 9:11pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

You give people too much credit.
In a place where people are boozed up and or are already coked up going in to the place, it's gonna catch it's fair share of people.

As I said above it's just to f**k with them.

No it doesn’t

Think you fell for a grown up spinning yarns about how cool he used to be

Ash.J.Williams · 24-05-2021 9:12pm

Tomaldo wrote: »

No it's prohibitionists who talk out of their hoop on this topic. As I said earlier the lies they come out with such as cocaine is poison, ur guaranteed to become a thief if u take drugs, the scourge but never the enjoyment of drugs, dealers targeting schoolkids with free samples and so on.

As I mentioned I’m a coke head and coke is poison , it’s silly to suggest otherwise

Tomaldo · 24-05-2021 9:19pm

Gradius wrote: »

"Have to"

It's the equivalent of giving out about pollution while illegally dumping rubbish.

"I wouldn't have to do this if it was made legal!"

If you actually cared about the impact of what you're doing, you wouldn't bloody well be doing it! Zero credibility.

No it's not the equivalent, dumping rubbish ruins the environment, and the quality of life for people who live near or visit the effected areas. Taking coke can only ruin the life of the consenting user.

Tomaldo · 24-05-2021 9:23pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

As I mentioned I’m a coke head and coke is poison , it’s silly to suggest otherwise

Arsenic and cyanide are types of poison, cocaine is NOT, otherwise Elton John, Ringo Starr and Eric Clapton would all be dead, they took lots of it decades ago and they're still alive well into their old age. If u check dictionary.com you won't see the word poison or poisonous in its definition.

Ash.J.Williams · 24-05-2021 9:25pm

Tomaldo wrote: »

Arsenic and cyanide are types of poison, cocaine is NOT, otherwise Elton John, Ringo Starr and Eric Clapton would all be dead, they took lots of it decades ago and they're still alive well into their old age. If u check dictionary.com you won't see the word poison or poisonous in its definition.

You’re being silly now of course it’s poison

ohnonotgmail · 24-05-2021 9:29pm

Tomaldo wrote: »

Arsenic and cyanide are types of poison, cocaine is NOT, otherwise Elton John, Ringo Starr and Eric Clapton would all be dead, they took lots of it decades ago and they're still alive well into their old age. If u check dictionary.com you won't see the word poison or poisonous in its definition.

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

You’re being silly now of course it’s poison

to suggest that anything is "poison" in absolute terms is nonsense. Anything can be a poison given sufficient dosage.

Ash.J.Williams · 24-05-2021 9:30pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

to suggest that anything is "poison" in absolute terms is nonsense. Anything can be a poison given sufficient dosage.

Medical grade coke isn’t poison

Jequ0n · 24-05-2021 9:30pm

Tomaldo wrote: »

Arsenic and cyanide are types of poison, cocaine is NOT, otherwise Elton John, Ringo Starr and Eric Clapton would all be dead, they took lots of it decades ago and they're still alive well into their old age. If u check dictionary.com you won't see the word poison or poisonous in its definition.

A substance that harms an organism is poisonous. Just because you, I and some others decide to take it doesn’t mean it doesn’t cause damage. It’s as if you are arguing that processed food is healthy as long as it states it on the label.

It’s personal choice though and I don’t feel responsible for any dramatised “you are fuelling criminal syndicate” crap.

Tomaldo · 24-05-2021 9:32pm

Gradius wrote: »

Ah yes, the ethical philosophers of the Columbian cartels pass their products to pacifist gangs of monks in Ireland, I forgot.

Nothing negative there at all.

As the law is now they have to sell it on to other criminals, they're the only people who risk selling it on to the consenting customers who enjoy using the product.

Gradius · 24-05-2021 9:35pm

Tomaldo wrote: »

No it's not the equivalent, dumping rubbish ruins the environment, and the quality of life for people who live near or visit the effected areas. Taking coke can only ruin the life of the consenting user.

So little bags of cocaine just grow out of the ground, do they?

The "disappeared" 60,000 people in Mexico, a teenager dismembered in Ireland, people cooked alive in ovens, people chainsawed to death, debt, intimidation, prostitution, people trafficking and other lovely things, are directly linked to the demand of illegal drugs.

Here's the thing; the people who cry about preventing that shyt through legalisation are the SAME people who currently have no problem supporting those crime syndicates ANYWAY.

So, fook that noise.

Tomaldo · 24-05-2021 9:52pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

You’re being silly now of course it’s poison

As they say, you may be entitled to your opinion, as inaccurate as it is, but not your own facts. It's lies like this which prolong the War on Drugs which I'm against.

begbysback · 24-05-2021 9:53pm

Gradius wrote: »

So little bags of cocaine just grow out of the ground, do they?

The "disappeared" 60,000 people in Mexico, a teenager dismembered in Ireland, people cooked alive in ovens, people chainsawed to death, debt, intimidation, prostitution, people trafficking and other lovely things, are directly linked to the demand of illegal drugs.

Don’t use drugs meself, but you do know all that would go away if it was legalised?

Tomaldo · 24-05-2021 9:58pm

Gradius wrote: »

So little bags of cocaine just grow out of the ground, do they?

The "disappeared" 60,000 people in Mexico, a teenager dismembered in Ireland, people cooked alive in ovens, people chainsawed to death, debt, intimidation, prostitution, people trafficking and other lovely things, are directly linked to the demand of illegal drugs.

Here's the thing; the people who cry about preventing that shyt through legalisation are the SAME people who currently have no problem supporting those crime syndicates ANYWAY.

So, fook that noise.

If u were so concerned about those victims in Mexico and Ireland then you should want the War of Drugs to end immediately, instead of lecturing users on their lack of morality. Do u not realize drug users don't seek or need the approval of prohibitionists.

Gradius · 24-05-2021 10:09pm

begbysback wrote: »

Don’t use drugs meself, but you do know all that would go away if it was legalised?

"Here's the thing; the people who cry about preventing that shyt through legalisation are the SAME people who currently have no problem supporting those crime syndicates ANYWAY."

The much, much, much easier thing to be done is for these people to just stop using these drugs. They know the cost of it all, they still support it all...so instead of listening to selfish people that really don't give a damn one way or the other and giving in to what they demand to the detriment of everyone else...how about no?!

Gradius · 24-05-2021 10:10pm

Tomaldo wrote: »

If u were so concerned about those victims in Mexico and Ireland then you should want the War of Drugs to end immediately, instead of lecturing users on their lack of morality. Do u not realize drug users don't seek or need the approval of prohibitionists.

You know what, if YOU were actually concerned about the shyt you support, it would be waaaay fooking easier for you to just personally stop.

How about that?

Tomaldo · 24-05-2021 10:24pm

Gradius wrote: »

You know what, if YOU were actually concerned about the shyt you support, it would be waaaay fooking easier for you to just personally stop.

How about that?

So far in 2021 I took 2 or 3 lines on St Patrick's Day 'cos I got if for free. Even if I was a regular buyer of it and I gave it up tomorrow, do u think the rest of the coke-users in Ireland would stop using it 'cos I did, that's very naive of you.

Tomaldo · 24-05-2021 10:30pm

Gradius wrote: »

"Here's the thing; the people who cry about preventing that shyt through legalisation are the SAME people who currently have no problem supporting those crime syndicates ANYWAY."

The much, much, much easier thing to be done is for these people to just stop using these drugs. They know the cost of it all, they still support it all...so instead of listening to selfish people that really don't give a damn one way or the other and giving in to what they demand to the detriment of everyone else...how about no?!

The cast of Grange Hill had a song in the 80's "Just say no". It got a lot of publicity, they even got to meet Nancy Reagan, whose husband said he was going to eliminate drugs, but those actors were stoned when they met her, you couldn't make it up.

Tomaldo · 24-05-2021 10:33pm

Correction, not all of them were stoned.

Ash.J.Williams · 24-05-2021 10:38pm

Tomaldo wrote: »

As they say, you may be entitled to your opinion, as inaccurate as it is, but not your own facts. It's lies like this which prolong the War on Drugs which I'm against.

You think it’s clean?

TheMilkyPirate · 24-05-2021 11:23pm

Gradius wrote: »

So little bags of cocaine just grow out of the ground, do they?

The "disappeared" 60,000 people in Mexico, a teenager dismembered in Ireland, people cooked alive in ovens, people chainsawed to death, debt, intimidation, prostitution, people trafficking and other lovely things, are directly linked to the demand of illegal drugs.

All those things are directly linked to prohibition. And you saying everyone should just stop taking drugs is fairy land stuff people have got high since the dawn of time and will continue to do so, illegal or otherwise.

Tomaldo · 24-05-2021 11:31pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

You think it’s clean?

I don't know but if it was legal, it would be.

B.A._Baracus · 24-05-2021 11:50pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

No it doesn’t

Think you fell for a grown up spinning yarns about how cool he used to be

You already established yourself as a "cokehead" (your words)

So why don't you stop the dead wide, sharp as a razor fuc*ing act. It's sad.
This is the internet. We can all say anything to blow ourselves out. Maybe I should talk about how I shagged 19 hookers last night. But to make it seem more relatable to you, I snorted coke off their arses? :pac:

... Then the president of Ireland called me to score some off me. But I was too wide to believe it was the president. I'm a big smart coke head. Lol. Sound right?

25-05-2021 1:56am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

You already established yourself as a "cokehead" (your words)

So why don't you stop the dead wide, sharp as a razor fuc*ing act. It's sad.
This is the internet. We can all say anything to blow ourselves out. Maybe I should talk about how I shagged 19 hookers last night. But to make it seem more relatable to you, I snorted coke off their arses? :pac:

... Then the president of Ireland called me to score some off me. But I was too wide to believe it was the president. I'm a big smart coke head. Lol. Sound right?

With all due respect, what are you on about?

You seem to think this popular drug is far more niche than it is. In the pre-Covid era, every second toilet cubicle in a nightclub seemed to be occupied by some guy(s) sniffing coke. I refuse to believe that there were that many guys taking a shít together.

ILoveYourVibes · 25-05-2021 2:21am

MrMusician18 wrote: »

So, do you think cocaine users in Ireland have some responsibility for the gang warfare that is destroying parts of the country?

No ultimately the responsibility lies with the gangs themselves. There is nothing about selling drugs that means you have to kill people. GREED does that. Putting money over people's lives does that.

Do the govt bear some responsibility for not bringing in some kind of gang peace process? Yes.

Honestly also social and economic factors play a part.

Middle class people use it but working class people usually are in the business and working class communities suffer from the damage upper and middle class vices.

Legalizing it or regulating it might work i don't know.

But you also need to do the social work IN those communities.

B.A._Baracus · 25-05-2021 12:59pm

A Lamb Named Miltiades! wrote: »

With all due respect, what are you on about?

You seem to think this popular drug is far more niche than it is. In the pre-Covid era, every second toilet cubicle in a nightclub seemed to be occupied by some guy(s) sniffing coke. I refuse to believe that there were that many guys taking a shít together.

I was taking the piss.

Dr. Bre · 25-05-2021 1:01pm

A Lamb Named Miltiades! wrote: »

With all due respect, what are you on about?

You seem to think this popular drug is far more niche than it is. In the pre-Covid era, every second toilet cubicle in a nightclub seemed to be occupied by some guy(s) sniffing coke. I refuse to believe that there were that many guys taking a shít together.

Maybe they were wiping each other’s arses ?

YFlyer · 25-05-2021 1:05pm

Found cocaine crap. Prefer MDMA and whizz. Especially whizz.

YFlyer · 25-05-2021 1:10pm

A Lamb Named Miltiades! wrote: »

With all due respect, what are you on about?

You seem to think this popular drug is far more niche than it is. In the pre-Covid era, every second toilet cubicle in a nightclub seemed to be occupied by some guy(s) sniffing coke. I refuse to believe that there were that many guys taking a shít together.

Self and a mate took a line in a cubicle in a hard party pub in Limerick. We walked out, and a guy said were you bumming? We just sheepishly just acknowledge him.

25-05-2021 5:36pm

YFlyer wrote: »

Found cocaine crap. Prefer MDMA and whizz. Especially whizz.

What's whizz, speed?

It's a great buzz, but the best thing is waking up to an apartment that is spick & span. Was it me who washed those skirting boards at 4am? It must have been.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 25-05-2021 7:43pm

A Lamb Named Miltiades! wrote: »

What's whizz, speed?

It's a great buzz, but the best thing is waking up to an apartment that is spick & span. Was it me who washed those skirting boards at 4am? It must have been.

Speed. Named after Billy Whizz, the Beano character.

More of a functional drug though. Somewhere between coffee and Ritalin.

25-05-2021 7:49pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Speed. Named after Billy Whizz, the Beano character.

More of a functional drug though. Somewhere between coffee and Ritalin.

Isn't it basically the same as ritalin?

The first 20 minutes were anything but functional for me, it was dizzying. But I can definitely see how it would aid function in the day after. I haven't been that productive in years.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 25-05-2021 8:59pm

A Lamb Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Isn't it basically the same as ritalin?

The first 20 minutes were anything but functional for me, it was dizzying. But I can definitely see how it would aid function in the day after. I haven't been that productive in years.

YOu might have taken a bit too much

Ritalin is a bit more refined than Speed is. It's also sometimes known as "dirty" Ritalin.

Cocaine

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