Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Degag wrote: »

Is this actually happening though or is it all a bit anecdotal.



Sure. You can choose to break any number of laws.

That doesn't make it right though.

Of course...

But, life is full of antics and behaviours , much worse than not wearing a mask, in which we choose to turn a blind eye to or never bother getting bothered about. I don't know you personally but, I know you do on a daily basis...As do I...

Comes back to when I pinpointed Boggles post from a few weeks ago, when he dismissed people struggling...It's all fun and games until you're affected by it.

The "have a go heroes" talking about mask wearing and saying people are just being impatient under lockdown because they want pints and how we must save lives and save the world etc etc etc...

OK...The TV adverts of dying children in Africa on TV...The homeless appeal for people on the streets of Dublin...The fact the planet is in a massive environmental situation...Do they give to these causes? Do you? Do you try to cut back on the carbon footprint?
I highly doubt it...Because of two things...

1. Majority of people are selfish
2. "Well as long as it doesn't affect me, I don't care"


Harsh reality...No one in this thread would give a **** if the virus ended in China and didn't come over here and affect our lives. In fact, you'd be making jokes about it.

Harsh reality number two...When this is over, you and everyone else will climb down off the soapbox and will eat their dinners in front of a TV, as adverts are shown of pain and suffering in Africa and not one of you will donate a cent to try and combat it and to make the world a better place.

Deny it all you want...Come back with a thoughtful post about how great you and how I'm a cynical fool and then twist it against me...

Bottom line is, as I stated above, you and many others couldn't give a **** if the virus was only in China or even on the Aran Islands.
The hero type jargon on Boards.ie, it only gets you so far

Klonker wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0523/1223460-covid-sport-and-events/

Anyone have thoughts on this?

I just feel its to make it look like their trying to do something to support these industries but I don't actually expect any trials to happen at all, something will conveniently happen to let them push it out and out and by that stage the rest of Europe be allowing these large events while we beginning trialling them!

Also comments of maybe PCR tests needed beforehand. So I'll have to my way to some PCR testing place a couple days beforehand and pay €100+ for my test on top of my concert ticket is it? It just feels so little so late. Most other European countries have already done these trials at this stage and we are only starting to talk about them now.

Devils work most important things from that article are in bold. Cant be doing that stuff esp with the 'INDIAN VARIANT' in the country

'On live events, Culture Minister Catherine Martin has drawn up proposals for music concerts as well as comedy and theatre.

These include proposals for both large and small events both indoors and outdoors.

However, this all depends on health advice.

The Government will also announce a date for the return of indoor hospitality with the first week in July suggested by some senior sources.

NPHET's advice will be key to the decision-making.'

They meet Thursday and this will be followed by a gathering of the Cabinet sub-committee on Covid.

PTH2009 wrote: »

As was said here before is there a danger of the reopening of Outdoor Hospitality been moved to the 8th June because of a potential **** up by someone in the government who forgot the 7th was a bank holiday ?

Thank God for that, the virus was gearing up for Super Spreader Monday knowing all the people who were planning on enjoying themselves doing risky activities such as sitting outside a cafe drinking coffee or meeting a few mates in a beer garden for a few beers on a June bank holiday Monday.

MOR316 wrote: »

Comes back to when I pinpointed Boggles post from a few weeks ago, when he dismissed people struggling...It's all fun and games until you're affected by it.

Nope, again I dismissed hyperbolic nonsense that everyone in the country was under "severe suppression" for 15 months, but you do know that.

Penfailed wrote: »

A gathering of thousands of people isn't just going against advice, it's not allowed under the restrictions. Wearing a mask outdoors isn't mandated but is advised in crowded situations. My issue is that you pulled me up for not wearing a mask outdoors (allowed) but not for actually attending the protest (not allowed).

No I didn't.

Penfailed wrote: »

You're correct, you didn't. Here's what you did say -
Which was in response to my post saying -

So, no, you didn't pull me up directly for not wearing a mask outdoors in a coastal location on a breezy day. Good save.

So the accusation you made was false? I fail to see how anything was saved so.

Fair enough.

If you were a betting person when would you expect all Covid restrictions to be lifted in Ireland

I would guess the Tuesday after the August bank holiday .

And us being the last country in Europe to do so.

Deleted User wrote: »

By your logic you could have dined in the supermarket at any stage during restrictions so.

I use the word “logic” in the loosest possible sense

You know nothing about a bookies environment obviously. A bookies environment would be a great deal closer to a pub environment than a supermarket .
My logic is perfect .

Mimon wrote: »

I have bad asthma developed from having Covid last year. Why would I put myself at unnecessary risk because people are too bloody minded to wear a mask when in a large crowd. Hardly too much of a sacrifice to make to allow more people to go.

One thing Covid has shown up is the me feiners in our society.

Do you really believe that masks outdoors make any difference whatsoever to transmission ???

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Michael O'Leary talking a lot of sense on Newstalk again this morning re the ridiculousness of restrictions on UK visitors when we have an open border with the North, and EU countries that can freely travel from other states into the country without issue.

Eamon Ryan got a well deserved roasting as well, as did the Government for their abdication of the decisions to Tony and NPHET.

Micheal only talks the bottom line. And thats bums on seats regardless.

Eamon lord help him.

Nphets role (love them or loathe them) is to advise the government on covid related issues. The government can chose to ignore their advice if they decide to do so.

Sweet.Science wrote: »

If you were a betting person when would you expect all Covid restrictions to be lifted in Ireland

I would guess the Tuesday after the August bank holiday .

And us being the last country in Europe to do so.

Unlike most countries, one thing our Government/NPHET have never promised us is a return to full freedom. Its very notable they have not once have they mentioned it.

Whereas in the UK they are setting targets for things like full crowds at events, non mask wearing, people returning to offices.

I will bet my left testicle that if Masks mandates were removed at the end of Summer (of which is unlikely), Holohan or the other NPHETers will be calling for masks in winter.

Its very important that we do not let them normalise restrictions and rules. The world is littered with Temporary/Emergency things that ended up lasting forever.

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Unlike most countries, one thing our Government/NPHET have never promised us is a return to full freedom. Its very notable they have not once have they mentioned it.

Whereas in the UK they are setting targets for things like full crowds at events, non mask wearing, people returning to offices.

I will bet my left testicle that if Masks mandates were removed at the end of Summer (of which is unlikely), Holohan or the other NPHETers will be calling for masks in winter.

Its very important that we do not let them normalise restrictions and rules. The world is littered with Temporary/Emergency things that ended up lasting forever.

Best outcome will be that NPHET will plead for mask wearing during winter but that they won't be mandated - they will absolutely be calling for them though.

There will be heel-dragging on things like crowds and return to offices. I suspect it will all be very incremental and ridiculously slow, with a carrot dangling at each teeny bit of normality that is returned to us. NPHET will want to prolong whatever compliance remains once vaccination rollout complete.

Once outdoor organised crowds get the go-ahead things will get interesting. There won't be rational reason to keep organisation of peaceful protests illegal - and once it's sanctioned, the people will show their dissatisfaction. A march for 'Housing' will attract many thousands of citizens disillusioned by more than just the housing crisis (me included).