Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

Marcusm · 23-05-2021 11:16AM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Jeez, were all very pessimistic today aren't we?

Chin up guys, in 6 weeks time well all be enjoying a meal and a drink in a beer garden

Isn’t that closer to 2 weeks away?

Sammy2012 · 23-05-2021 11:21AM

pc7 wrote: »

I don’t think they care.

I think your right. I think they actually are convinced that people will holiday in Ireland if they can't go abroad. Now we are planning a week away at the end of June in Ireland but with no indoor dining until we are almost coming home we won't be spending much while away. The weather will play a huge part in our eating out or it'll be takeaways. Much less than we'd spend in a restaurant!!

braychelsea · 23-05-2021 11:32AM

Just an update for people who were asking. Travelled through Belfast to Spain and the journey was pretty easy; just needed a PCR and health control form. Restrictions over here are fairly lax although you do have to wear a mask outdoors.

Gael23 · 23-05-2021 11:41AM

braychelsea wrote: »

p. Restrictions over here are fairly lax although you do have to wear a mask outdoors.

That alone is putting me off Spain. Don’t fancy a mask in that heat

Feria40 · 23-05-2021 11:45AM

Gael23 wrote: »

That alone is putting me off Spain. Don’t fancy a mask in that heat

That law Looks increasing likely to be removed shortly

josip · 23-05-2021 11:54AM

pc7 wrote: »

Mid August would screw most families as schools ask you to sign declarations you haven’t been away previous 14 days.

I would be surprised if they are still doing this in September.

Also, I would in the past have been extremely reluctant for our children to miss any school days.
Home schooling during Covid has opened my eyes a bit and in our case, they would do at least as well academically during 2 weeks of enforced absence.
We're lucky to wfh and that our kids are old enough to be able to work independently. I understand that it won't suit everyone.

dalyboy · 23-05-2021 11:56AM

Feria40 wrote: »

That law Looks increasing likely to be removed shortly

It seems that the mask rules in Spain will be revised in the coming week.
Their health chief is saying once they’re lower than 150 cases per 100k that there’ll be a relaxing of current mask mandates.

Micky 32 · 23-05-2021 12:02PM

jn123 wrote: »

Any updates on US travel?

Not looking hopeful to be able to travel to the US for non- citizens. They have no plans “ at the moment” to change their travel restrictions for european’s. I have already given my view on the future of travel and stick by it unfortunately.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/alexledsom/2021/05/21/usuk-travel-restrictions-wont-be-lifted-at-the-moment/amp/

Gael23 · 23-05-2021 12:21PM

dalyboy wrote: »

It seems that the mask rules in Spain will be revised in the coming week.
Their health chief is saying once they’re lower than 150 cases per 100k that there’ll be a relaxing of current mask mandates.

West are the restrictions on restaurants in Spain ?

braychelsea · 23-05-2021 12:25PM

Gael23 wrote: »

West are the restrictions on restaurants?

Restaurants, pubs and nightclubs all open over here. Don't need to wear a mask either while in these places, which is kinda strange since they're quite strict on masks outdoors.

Gael23 · 23-05-2021 12:25PM

braychelsea wrote: »

Restaurants, pubs and nightclubs all open over here. Don't need to wear a mask either while in these places, which is kinda strange since they're quite strict on masks outdoors.

Are there restrictions on how many can be at a table together?

brickster69 · 23-05-2021 12:26PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Not looking hopeful to be able to travel to the US for non- citizens. They have no plans “ at the moment” to change their travel restrictions for european’s. I have already given my view on the future of travel and stick by it unfortunately.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/alexledsom/2021/05/21/usuk-travel-restrictions-wont-be-lifted-at-the-moment/amp/

The White House said on Friday that "it will not ever mandate vaccine passports or proof of vaccination for travel or any other activity"

No idea how that will work regards getting into Europe from the States

Micky 32 · 23-05-2021 12:30PM

brickster69 wrote: »

The White House said on Friday that "it will not ever mandate vaccine passports or proof of vaccination for travel or any other activity"

No idea how that will work regards getting into Europe from the States

If their citizens make enough noise they might have to change that. They love travelling to europe.

UDAWINNER · 23-05-2021 12:31PM

jellies wrote: »

https://www.afar.com/magazine/when-will-we-be-able-to-travel-to-europe

"Italy opened to U.S. leisure travelers on COVID-tested flights on May 16 and as France recently said it will open to Americans by June 9. Additionally, a handful of European countries have already started opening up to international travelers who are either vaccinated or present negative COVID-19 test results, including Greece and Iceland."

Other European countries are starting to open up to US visitors.

Meanwhile we are still putting US visitors in 14 day mandatory hotel quarantine. It is unbelievable.

If they're vaccinated, they don't have to do MHQ which most Americans are at this stage. Seems sensible

Wombatman · 23-05-2021 12:34PM

Florida booked for mid October.

Probability of Covid bamboozlement?

Micky 32 · 23-05-2021 12:37PM

Wombatman wrote: »

Florida booked for mid October.

Probability of Covid bamboozlement?

Unless you’re a US citizen i wouldn’t be booking anything to the USA. They have no plans to reopen to europe.

jellies · 23-05-2021 12:38PM

UDAWINNER wrote: »

If they're vaccinated, they don't have to do MHQ which most Americans are at this stage. Seems sensible

You are correct. Thanks. 14 days home quarantine. Will wait and see what the "plan" is next week I suppose.

"From March 26, 2021, passengers arriving into Ireland from or who have been present within the preceding 14 days in – including only having transited – any of a list of designated high-risk countries must complete a 14-day Mandatory Hotel Quarantine. The list of high-risk countries includes the United States. Passengers arriving from or who have been present within the preceding 14 days in any country on this list are required to pre-book accommodation in a designated quarantine facility, and to pre-pay for their stay. Travelers who fail to fulfil the legal requirement for Mandatory Hotel Quarantine are committing an offence and can be fined up to €2,000 or get a prison sentence of up to 1 month, or both. Passengers arriving from one of the designated high-risk countries who are fully vaccinated are exempt from the Mandatory Hotel Quarantine, but must still quarantine for 14 days upon arrival at the location listed on their Passenger Locator Form submitted upon arrival to Ireland. The Mandatory Hotel Quarantine program is a Government of Ireland program – the U.S. Embassy cannot intervene on behalf of private U.S. citizens who are subject to the quarantine requirement. See this notice from the Irish Department of Health for details."

brickster69 · 23-05-2021 12:47PM

Wombatman wrote: »

Florida booked for mid October.

Probability of Covid bamboozlement?

Have you checked it is refundable ?

Wombatman · 23-05-2021 12:54PM

brickster69 wrote: »

Have you checked it is refundable ?

Everything refundable bar flights. Would have to push flights down the road if it came to that. Don't think it will on the the trajectory the EU and US are on.

Del Griffith · 23-05-2021 12:59PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

If their citizens make enough noise they might have to change that. They love travelling to europe.

USA doesn't need to change anything, rules for traveling into the EU are mandated by the EU.

Micky 32 · 23-05-2021 01:01PM

Del Griffith wrote: »

USA doesn't need to change anything, rules for traveling into the EU are mandated by the EU.

Ah right i picked it up wrong so. I was thinking that the USA won’t give any official electronic ( or otherwise) proof for their citizens that europe might require for entry.

VG31 · 23-05-2021 01:04PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Unless you’re a US citizen i wouldn’t be booking anything to the USA. They have no plans to reopen to europe.

Europe will probably have herd immunity by August/September. I would be shocked if the USA haven't opened up travel from Europe by October.

Happydays2020 · 23-05-2021 01:22PM

VG31 wrote: »

Europe will probably have herd immunity by August/September. I would be shocked if the USA haven't opened up travel from Europe by October.

I think you are right. The EU and US are already discussing this. We will be in a very different place in ( weeks let alone 5 months

kilns · 23-05-2021 01:47PM

If the travel certs are delayed it is on purpose or just incompetence. Here in Switzerland, certs will be available by June 7 which are comparable with the EU cert and private companies too have been undertaking alot of the testing.

I will be fully vaccinated by early June and yet may have to quarantine even hotel quarantine, it's absolutely ludicrous

faceman · 23-05-2021 01:48PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Are there restrictions on how many can be at a table together?

All the current rules differ by region. In my region, Comunidad Valenciana, which covers areas surrounding Alicante, curfew is 1am from tomorrow, bars/restaurants shut 12:30am, max 10 at a table from different households. Masks are still required outdoors except on the beach.

As Spain is continuing its process of deescalation, these measures will relax further.

gozunda · 23-05-2021 01:58PM

lcstress2012 wrote: »

I’m sure they’re going to get rid of non essential travel and that ridiculous 2k fine be end of July. I work in the airport and it won’t survive any longer if they keep this up.

And yet other countries still have non essential travel restrictions. Its not like we're the only country in the world doing so.

The UK for example still prohibits non essential travel to Amber list countries with heavy fines for those travelling to / from red list countries. And they are miles ahead of us with vaccinations.

I get it about getting the airports working and essential travel is still permitted.But throwing the doors open right this minute ain't going to help keep infection rates down while we get the numbers of people vaccinated up to herd immunity levels.

Valhallapt · 23-05-2021 02:19PM

gozunda wrote: »

And yet other countries still have non essential travel restrictions. Its not like we're the only country in the world doing so.

Apples and Oranges, Ireland’s restrictions are disproportionate. No other country is fining people for going to an airport.

Micky 32 · 23-05-2021 02:19PM

gozunda wrote: »

And yet other countries still have non essential travel restrictions. Its not like we're the only country in the world doing so.

The UK for example still prohibits non essential travel to Amber list countries with heavy fines for those travelling to / from red list countries. And they are miles ahead of us with vaccinations.

I get it about getting the airports working and essential travel is still permitted.But throwing the doors open right this minute ain't going to help keep infection rates down while we get the numbers of people vaccinated up to herd immunity levels.

So you’re saying he/she shouldn’t be worried about his job in the airport? It’s perfectly natural he/she is worried and has a right to express it regardless of the situation. Just because you’re nice and snug and lockdown hasn’t affected you no need to be arrogant. I’d suggest be careful on that high horse before you fall off and potentially break your neck :rolleyes:

gozunda · 23-05-2021 02:28PM

braychelsea wrote: »

Restaurants, pubs and nightclubs all open over here. Don't need to wear a mask either while in these places, which is kinda strange since they're quite strict on masks outdoors.

Not sure what part you're in but according to friends in Spain - in bars cafes and restaurants you have to wear a mask when you arrive and when you leave (and the bathroom).But also while sitting at the table you may take it off only to eat or drink. But as soon as you have finished you need to put it back on.

Plenty of other restrictions still in place

https://www.esmadrid.com/en/information-coronavirus?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ie%2F

gozunda · 23-05-2021 02:32PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

So you’re saying he/she shouldn’t be worried about his job in the airport? It’s perfectly natural he/she is worried and has a right to express it regardless of the situation. Just because you’re nice and snug and lockdown hasn’t affected you no need to be arrogant. I’d suggest be careful on that high horse before you fall off and potentially break your neck :

Yeah Micky 'cos that was what was said. Read the comment again. And here none of us know each other circumstances. Maybe less of the smug 'arrogant' personalitions. Thanks.

Borrowed this at its better here imho :rolleyes:

Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

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