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Traveller Wedding - Breaking Tenancy & Covid Rules

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    #272
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    jammiedodgers wrote: »
    Cork City Council granted injunction over wedding marquee

    That's the third prominent injunction needed in the past week

    After all the publicity with the longford case you would think that word would have gotten around about having a marquee with numbers in excess of restrictions

    Nah brazen out the thinking is they'll continue with our plans

    They're special that the rules don't apply to us

    Giving travellers who do abide by the restrictions a bad name


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    #273
    beakerjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    That's the third prominent injunction needed in the past week

    After all the publicity with the longford case you would think that word would have gotten around about having a marquee with numbers in excess of restrictions

    Nah brazen out the thinking is they'll continue with our plans

    They're special that the rules don't apply to us

    Giving travellers who do abide by the restrictions a bad name

    The Longford case and the lack of real punishment acted like an advert: "Have your wedding, zero consequences."


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    #274
    ...Ghost...
    Registered Users Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    wes wrote: »
    Their will always be some people who absolutely take the piss in this country, and we are far too soft on people who take the piss like this. I should note plenty of people who are settled do this as well, as evidenced by the behavior we have seen by teenagers in Dublin recently.

    I am not calling for draconian laws or anything, but for people who are clearly taking the piss, I think the book needs to be thrown at them.

    Like the incident at Howth Junction? Pure scummers who should be locked up. I dont care how young the little b0llixes are

    Stay Free



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    #275
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users Posts: 85,102 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    jammiedodgers wrote: »
    Cork City Council granted injunction over wedding marquee

    It's like a media attention thing now

    https://twitter.com/PaulByrne_1/status/1393231482114674693
    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #276
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,693 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    It's like a media attention thing now

    https://twitter.com/PaulByrne_1/status/1393231482114674693

    I'll remember this the next time there are mass complaints about 'too much news' happening/being talked about from outside of Ireland. This is the headlines? :o


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    #277
    nullzero
    Registered Users Posts: 16,367 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Overheal wrote: »
    I'll remember this the next time there are mass complaints about 'too much news' happening/being talked about from outside of Ireland. This is the headlines? :o

    Nope, not a headline at all, here's today's top stories as per the state broadcaster
    https://www.rte.ie/news/

    Traveller wedding marquees not mentioned.

    Glazers Out!



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    #278
    Dempo1
    Registered Users Posts: 26,924 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    nullzero wrote: »
    Nope, not a headline at all, here's today's top stories as per the state broadcaster
    https://www.rte.ie/news/

    Traveller wedding marquees not mentioned.

    Would you expect anything less from RTE who seem to have a correspondent employed full time to lament about injustice, report on numerous reports on how hard done by ethnic communities are etc etc, her title Social Affairs & Religion, the irony is breathtaking. A cohort who use the Church when it suits and use Sacred grounds (Graveyards) to practice their cultural entitlement to kick the S**** out of each other.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    #279
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 13,754 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Some bloke in the Times wrote an article and it's all kicking off on Twitter today

    https://twitter.com/hopenothate/status/1393484483974864900


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    #280
    JCJCJC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭JCJCJC


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    It's likbbe a media attention thing now

    https://twitter.com/PaulByrne_1/status/1393231482114674693

    It’ll take some judge ordering that the marquee and catering equipment be confiscated by the State and sold to recover some of the costs of the case to put a stop to this practise. The marquee men will sit up and take notice then, boss.


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    #281
    Gaoth Laidir
    Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Gaoth Laidir wrote: »
    On my way home I passed a new camp of around 40 campers and caravans setting up camp there on the Nangor Road opposite the entrance to Grange Castle Golf Club. Couldn't believe the quality of the caravans. Brand new. It looked like the Paddock at an F1 race. Unbelievable. How can they afford those when 80% of Travellers are unemployed?

    I'd say the place will already be a tip in the morning. Scum.

    Well they've finally moved on from that site, although they made absolute shíte of it and left piles of rubbish just all over the place. There were flocks of crows and seagulls there this morning, which is not great given the proximity to Casement aerodrome. But what do these people care?


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    #282
    [Deleted User]
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    Gaoth Laidir wrote: »
    Well they've finally moved on from that site, although they made absolute shíte of it and left piles of rubbish just all over the place. There were flocks of crows and seagulls there this morning, which is not great given the proximity to Casement aerodrome. But what do these people care?

    They don’t. They are users of the worst kind. Care for nothing nor anyone.


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    #283
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users Posts: 7,208 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    It has always been thus, the meek and generally law abiding get punished for stepping out of line while the brazen and aggressive get treated with kid gloves. And this happens at all levels - the student find for not having a tram ticket while teenage scrotes freely cause havoc on public transport. To the ordinary Joe soap getting prison for failure to pay the TV license contrasted to small fines if any action at all for wilful court order breaches for travellers.

    It's not travellers that are actually the issue here, it's the uneven application of the law. Easy targets get the full weight, while the more brazen and ignorant you are the more likely you will not have any consequences.

    As if to illustrate my point, the good judge has jailed a woman for contempt for not wearing a mask

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/district-court/cork-woman-66-jailed-for-weekend-after-refusing-to-wear-a-mask-1.4571444?mode=amp

    The law needs to be applied evenly without fear or favour. If jail is good enough for her it's good enough for travellers and anyone else who defy court orders.


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    #284
    Dempo1
    Registered Users Posts: 26,924 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    As if to illustrate my point, the good judge has jailed a woman for contempt for not wearing a mask

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/district-court/cork-woman-66-jailed-for-weekend-after-refusing-to-wear-a-mask-1.4571444?mode=amp

    The law needs to be applied evenly without fear or favour. If jail is good enough for her it's good enough for travellers and anyone else who defy court orders.

    I read this article earlier and nearly choked with laughter,

    "She Arrives in court without a mask and what's worse, with a smile "

    has to be one of the best and Hillarious put downs of a defendant by a judge in recent months :)

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    #285
    Dempo1
    Registered Users Posts: 26,924 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Looks like we might be hearing a little more about that certain wedding in Longford recently, predictably the fines have NOT been paid by the court appointed deadline, there's a shock

    https://www.midlands103.com/news/midlands-news/three-longford-men-fined-for-marquee-wedding-reception-fail-to-make-payment-deadline/

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    #286
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,383 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Predictably, the judge accommodated their sob story
    At today's sitting of the circuit court, counsel for the family informed the judge that they had only managed to gather a combined total of €650 out of the €9,000 fine in the three weeks since the court order.

    Legal representatives for the family requested the implementation of a payment plan, with the counsel referring to any money paid as 'a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'.

    Judge Johnson refused this request and ordered an adjournment of the payment deadline until October 5th where he warned that those involved would have one more chance to clear the fines


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    #287
    Dempo1
    Registered Users Posts: 26,924 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Predictably, the judge accommodated their sob story

    True but he did refuse the suggestion of a payment plan :)

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    #288
    jammiedodgers
    Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭jammiedodgers


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Looks like we might be hearing a little more about that certain wedding in Longford recently, predictably the fines have NOT been paid by the court appointed deadline, there's a shock

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    #289
    AlfaZen
    Registered Users Posts: 423 ✭✭AlfaZen


    The Judge should be looking for the Costs of the wedding. Proof of VAT paid to all venders for Food, Marquee, Clothes etc. and then proof of where/how the money was earned for the costs of the wedding and tax certs for the bride, groom and both sets of parents.

    Time to put pressure on and set an example.


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    #290
    Dempo1
    Registered Users Posts: 26,924 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    AlfaZen wrote: »
    The Judge should be looking for the Costs of the wedding. Proof of VAT paid to all venders for Food, Marquee, Clothes etc. and then proof of where/how the money was earned for the costs of the wedding and tax certs for the bride, groom and both sets of parents.

    Time to put pressure on and set an example.

    Steady on now, that would be discrimination :)

    Besides its alway cash Boss :)

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    #291
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,283 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    AlfaZen wrote: »
    The Judge should be looking for the Costs of the wedding. Proof of VAT paid to all venders for Food, Marquee, Clothes etc. and then proof of where/how the money was earned for the costs of the wedding and tax certs for the bride, groom and both sets of parents.

    Time to put pressure on and set an example.

    Its about time, the most under policed section of society and the most likely to engage in criminality.


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    #292
    Caquas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Caquas


    Looks like the three lads never paid their fines and the whole thing has been forgotten. Judge Keenan was full of bluster about contempt of court proceeding last February but seems to be no word since.

    I’d say these lads have really learned their lesson. They could teach Phil Hogan a thing or two about dealing with higher powers😎

    https://www.shannonside.ie/news/two-longford-men-facing-contempt-of-court-hearing-linked-to-wedding-marquee-incident-194845




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