Traveller Wedding - Breaking Tenancy & Covid Rules

Big Daddy Kane

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/judge-says-marquee-must-be-removed-ahead-of-wedding-reception-planned-for-this-evening-40418258.html


Total disregard for anything. During a global pandemic, certain members of community feel laws don't apply to them...


"He told the Circuit Civil Court that when told he was breaching regulations, Mr Connors replied: “I know all that. I know I’m breaching my tenancy but it is my son’s wedding and he has no other place to go.”

Hope it gets taken down ASAP and the parents are fined for breach of tenancy.

godtabh

Pauliedragon wrote: »

You could also apply that to Judges, politicians and employees of our national broadcaster.

I think it has been with equal amount of rage.

After the absolutely pathetic fines dished out to the Longford rule breakers the other day he's going to plough on.

Just read it before coming here. You just couldn't make this stuff up... Where's my popcorn:)

gmisk

Another one?!?
Fecking brazen

PunkIPA

The marquee looks very swanky! Lovely floral arrangement and tasteful furnishings inside. I wonder what line of business the father of the groom is in to be in a position to provide such a generous wedding gift to the happy couple?

WrenBoy

HAHAHA. They run the country theres no mistake.

Bicyclette

I think the thing to point out here is, that any anger is directed at the behaviour not the background of the people involved.

If this was done by Dublin Dentists, Donegal Doctors, Tullamore Teachers or Roscommon Rugby Players, many people, myself included, would still be aghast at the behaviour and attitude.

Why should the rest of us put up with this sh y te? It does appear as if they think they are superior to the rest of us. That they can do what they like.

JP Liz V1

I don't care who does it, this is so wrong

Bicyclette

Bicyclette wrote: »

I think the thing to point out here is, that any anger is directed at the behaviour not the background of the people involved.

If this was done by Dublin Dentists, Donegal Doctors, Tullamore Teachers or Roscommon Rugby Players, many people, myself included, would still be aghast at the behaviour and attitude.

Why should the rest of us put up with this sh y te? It does appear as if they think they are superior to the rest of us. That they can do what they like.

Law and Order is far from consistent in this country that's for sure.

Break the rules consistently by travellers and day to day petty criminals its a slap on the wrist. White collar fruad, a slap on the wrist if you know the right people.

However middle income, pay taxes, abide by the laws, contribute all round to society... If you step out of line in a similar fashion you're paying for it, make no mistake. If Tom the builder from Lucan has a marquee with 200 people for his daughters wedding he's probably doing jail time.

suicide_circus

If theyre vaccinated let em at it. trust in the science

Lmkrnr

suicide_circus wrote: »

If theyre vaccinated let em at it. trust in the science

If they are not let them at it. Darwinism.

Bass Reeves

Bicyclette wrote: »

I think the thing to point out here is, that any anger is directed at the behaviour not the background of the people involved.

If this was done by Dublin Dentists, Donegal Doctors, Tullamore Teachers or Roscommon Rugby Players, many people, myself included, would still be aghast at the behaviour and attitude.

Why should the rest of us put up with this sh y te? It does appear as if they think they are superior to the rest of us. That they can do what they like.

The problem is a very large cohort of travellers are used to disobeying the law and living with the conquences.

TBF this judge has given the LA sweeping powers to inform those attending and those involved of the conquences. No solicitor can come before him with a plaintiff and make a case his client did not know. This was the get out of jail card that was used in the the last case to limit liability to the groom, his father and father-in-law and the food proivider

In this case anybody entering the tent will be liable to a 3k fine. As well the judge has given powers to the LA to use a contractor to remove the marquee. This court order is much more sweeping than last week's one. Finally I expect the Gardai to be more willing to be involved this time and that enough numbers will be there to enforce it

Bass Reeves

Lmkrnr wrote: »

Enda Kenny said this is a proud day. Special status for our beloved minority.

I say that was tongue in cheek

Car99

Bicyclette wrote: »

I think the thing to point out here is, that any anger is directed at the behaviour not the background of the people involved.

If this was done by Dublin Dentists, Donegal Doctors, Tullamore Teachers or Roscommon Rugby Players, many people, myself included, would still be aghast at the behaviour and attitude.

Why should the rest of us put up with this sh y te? It does appear as if they think they are superior to the rest of us. That they can do what they like.

You can socially embarrass , financially penalise and impose the law on most if not all of the professions mentioned above and most other citizens for that matter but you cant embarrass or impose financial penalties on those who claim to have nothing and live their lives in social and family circles where the law means nothing unless it's in their favour.

SEPT 23 1989

Let the wedding go ahead but send CAB,Revenue,customs and the ERU to the reception

Bass Reeves

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Let the wedding go ahead but send CAB,Revenue,customs and the ERU to the reception

Unfortunately most of those attending seem to be from NI

Mrs OBumble

Big Daddy Kane wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/judge-says-marquee-must-be-removed-ahead-of-wedding-reception-planned-for-this-evening-40418258.html


Total disregard for anything. During a global pandemic, certain members of community feel laws don't apply to them...

...

Hope it gets taken down ASAP and the parents are fined for breach of tenancy.

There is no mechanism to fine people for breach of tenancy.

They can be fixed for breech of Covid-19 restrictions, but some people aren't going to be fussed about that.

The ethnicity of the people concerned is irrelevant in this case, exactly the same sequence of events would happen for some buffers.

gmisk

Being discussed on rte radio 1 now

Jinglejangle69

I thought 50 people were allowed at weddings?

Bass Reeves

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

I thought 50 people were allowed at weddings?

50 in the church 25 or 6 at the meal I not sure which

SEPT 23 1989

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

I thought 50 people were allowed at weddings?

not at a reception

gmisk

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

I thought 50 people were allowed at weddings?

It isn't a wedding it's the afters...the wedding is in co Armagh.

jmayo

Big Daddy Kane wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/judge-says-marquee-must-be-removed-ahead-of-wedding-reception-planned-for-this-evening-40418258.html


Total disregard for anything. During a global pandemic, certain members of community feel laws don't apply to them...


"He told the Circuit Civil Court that when told he was breaching regulations, Mr Connors replied: “I know all that. I know I’m breaching my tenancy but it is my son’s wedding and he has no other place to go.”

Hope it gets taken down ASAP and the parents are fined for breach of tenancy.

Yet another week day wedding.

How do these lads manage to get up for work the following morning.

I wonder which chipper in Sandyford, Stillorgan, Leopardstown is catering ?

San Marino in Leopardstown is offering 10% off for online orders so maybe they will get the business.

Lmkrnr

wd0661 wrote: »

breach the rules of social housing in this way they should be removed from the site and barred from ever getting social housing again


isnt that fair ?

Will never happen. They will get thrown from a social house and get another Irish Tax funded organisation to fund the next house. Revolving door of left wing policy.

WrenBoy

The important thing is that we're all in this together.

Lmkrnr

WrenBoy wrote: »

The important thing is that we're all in this together.

No thanks, im not going near that Marquee.

Bass Reeves

jmayo wrote: »

Yet another week day wedding.

How do these lads manage to get up for work the following morning.

I wonder which chipper in Sandyford, Stillorgan, Leopardstown is catering ?

San Marino in Leopardstown is offering 10% off for online orders so maybe they will get the business.

Sur, Sur, Sur.....can I have 120 beef burgers, 60 chicken burgers, 20 .fish. I take 200 large chips as well as 100 portion of onions rings and 100 sausages I be back in 30 minutes.......by the way give me a portion of battered sausages and a small chips now extra salt and vinegar on the chips now

Furze99

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Unfortunately most of those attending seem to be from NI

What's new? They've already had numbers coming from the UK at Christmas and at various other funerals and weddings and so on. *mod snip - no need*

What proportion of travellers have been taking up hospital care as a result of covid? Compared to the society as a whole?

Can't get my head around why this family figure they can just carry on like this despite knowing it's not permitted and following advice from traveller rights groups and so on.

Furze99

Furze99 wrote: »

What's new? They've already had numbers coming from the UK at Christmas and at various other funerals and weddings and so on. *Mod snip*

What proportion of travellers have been taking up hospital care as a result of covid? Compared to the society as a whole?

Can't get my head around why this family figure they can just carry on like this despite knowing it's not permitted and following advice from traveller rights groups and so on.

Because they have gone unchecked, are lawless and know the state will ultimately back down.

There is nothing more I would love this evening than the guards/army in with a machine this evening to rip the whole thing down with the bucket. Let them clean up the mess themselves. A strong message needs to be sent.

AlfaZen

Furze99 wrote: »

Can't get my head around why this family figure they can just carry on like this despite knowing it's not permitted and following advice from traveller rights groups and so on.

It's very simple and like with any other law of the country that doesn't suit them

THEY. DON'T. CARE.

They would be the first to bring a case if an establishment declined to host their wedding due to the risks involved.

Dempo1

Well I wasn't wrong, back here on a new thread with another 2 finger salute, another Marquee, Another Wedding and where??????? A halting site. I suppose it brightened up the site

Just beyond words really, what we're those words of apology from Longford again? To the people of Ireland we apologise.

You'd have to question the intelligence of the Marquee provider (if applicable) less than week since another one fined €3k, unless of course they built that into rental price

Curious to see how this ends, just extraordinary or perhaps maybe not.

lawrencesummers

Best of luck finding an independent contractor to take that down.

The Israeli army wouldn’t even take on that contract.

Eggs For Dinner

With more and more people leaving their homes to go back to work, they'll be OK to raise funds for any fines imposed on them

irishproduce

From the rte reporting. This quote from the organising traveller says everything that is wrong in one succinct sentence.

"My son’s wedding is going ahead and I accept the consequences of not taking it down"

You see, the problem here is, he knows the consequences are absolutely minimal and almost laughable. He says consequences, but he knows there are none bar the inconvenience of having to go to court and say sorry. That's the height of it.
We have a serious problem here.
This is one isolated incidence where the person is in a situation where they literally can be heard saying it
But it's implied across the whole country. There is f*CK all consequences.

Dempo1

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Best of luck finding an independent contractor to take that down.

The Israeli army wouldn’t even take on that contract.

They would if it was Palestinians

AlfaZen

irishproduce wrote: »

From the rte reporting. This quote from the organising traveller says everything that is wrong in one succinct sentence.

"My son’s wedding is going ahead and I accept the consequences of not taking it down"

You see, the problem here is, he knows the consequences are absolutely minimal and almost laughable. He says consequences, but he knows there are none bar the inconvenience of having to go to court and say sorry. That's the height of it.
We have a serious problem here.
This is one isolated incidence where the person is in a situation where they literally can be heard saying it
But it's implied across the whole country. There is f*CK all consequences.

Maybe the consequences should be a full revenue audit of where the funds for the wedding have come from and any other assets they may own. That might make the next one think twice.

Bass Reeves

Dempo1 wrote: »

Well I wasn't wrong, back here on a new thread with another 2 finger salute, another Marquee, Another Wedding and where??????? A halting site. I suppose it brightened up the site

Just beyond words really, what we're those words of apology from Longford again? To the people of Ireland we apologise.

You'd have to question the intelligence of the Marquee provider (if applicable) less than week since another one fined €3k, unless of course they built that into rental price

Curious to see how this ends, just extraordinary or perhaps maybe not.

Previous marquee provider was not fined. He claimed he know nothing about the court order. It was the food provider that was fined

Dempo1

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Previous marquee provider was not fined. He claimed he know nothing about the court order. It was the food provider that was fined

Apologies, I understood they were not fines as such but that 3 people made contributions totalling 12k, The Organiser, Take Away and Marquee contractor???

EDIT, Just checked, groom, father and caterers, not Marquee provider

wes

Lmkrnr wrote: »

Will never happen. They will get thrown from a social house and get another Irish Tax funded organisation to fund the next house. Revolving door of left wing policy.

Ireland doesn't have a left wing government..... and in fact never has.

wes

Again, the people in this case being travelers doesn't matter.

What matters is that we have people once again blatantly violating covid restrictions and the government needs to clamp down on this hard. We are near the end of this, ****ing things up near the end, by letting people violate restrictions openly like this, is the height of idiocy.

Spanish Eyes

Marriage took place in NI, wonder if that is because the bride was under 18?

16 legal age for marriage NI, 18 in ROI.

Anyways, they are a gas bunch of pretend idiots, cute as foxes they are.

conorhal

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

There is no mechanism to fine people for breach of tenancy.

They can be fixed for breech of Covid-19 restrictions, but some people aren't going to be fussed about that.

The ethnicity of the people concerned is irrelevant in this case, exactly the same sequence of events would happen for some buffers.

Which is not to say there are no measures that can be taken if you are. If I'm in breach of my tenancy and lease I get evicted. Perhaps that should also be the case here, if you are gifted a property and can't abide by the rules of your tenancy, out you go to find your own place to live.

Mrs OBumble

conorhal wrote: »

If I'm in breach of my tenancy and lease I get evicted.

Nope, you probably don't. It would be extremely unlikely to find a judge who would grant an eviction on the basis of one covid regulation breach.

Santan

Looking at the photos on rte seems like there is a large garda presence there. Unbelievable that there will be little to no consequences to this family

nullzero

Have the accusations of "racism" started yet?

At this point nothing should surprise us with relation to travellers.

Atlantic Dawn

It's like something out of Father Fooking Ted the way it's being handled, just send in the army and level the tent.

Sleeper12

I hate the usual Traveller bashing threads where they are all tarred with the one brush but someone deserved to spend a night or two in jail over this. Catering company & tent provider have serious questions to answer too

...Ghost...

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Let the wedding go ahead but send CAB,Revenue,customs and the ERU to the reception

The tent is certainly big enough to accommodate them all

Pinch Flat

People are always surprised by this behaviour for some reason.

Atlantic Dawn

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

It's like something out Father Fooking Ted the way it's being handled, just send in the army and level the tent.

Why "send them in"? They'll have something that could hit it from 2 miles away.:pac: