Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

Micky 32 · 14-05-2021 11:45AM

Corholio wrote: »

I don't pay much attention to or even mention about RTE reporting as some do go overboard about it but when you see this you can see why. RTE reporting false reports in a story that would inevitably have been posted here to push the 'variant' story more.

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2021/0513/1221323-india-virus-global/

https://twitter.com/ronlondoncon/status/1391895711982264326?s=19

The evidence is already showing the vaccines work against the indian scary wary bed wetting variant. The HCW’s in India that are vaccinated are not getting sick ( or if they are very mild symptoms) no serious illness.

brickster69 · 14-05-2021 12:23PM

Portugal to allow Uk visitors from Monday. Bit of a change of mind

https://metro.co.uk/2021/05/14/portugal-will-allow-uk-tourists-from-monday-as-long-as-they-test-negative-14582781/?ito=push-notification&ci=163900&si=22786189&ai=14582781

Valhallapt · 14-05-2021 01:12PM

brickster69 wrote: »

Portugal to allow Uk visitors from Monday. Bit of a change of mind

https://metro.co.uk/2021/05/14/portugal-will-allow-uk-tourists-from-monday-as-long-as-they-test-negative-14582781/?ito=push-notification&ci=163900&si=22786189&ai=14582781

I’m getting more and more confident most of Southern Europe will drop all entry requirements within the next few weeks.

yer man! · 14-05-2021 01:19PM

Got a notification today from the Dutch government on their travel app for Ireland:

09:35 R Latest developments Last modified on: 14-05-2021 Still valid on: 14-05-2021 Latest developments travel advice Ireland From Saturday, May 15, after a stay in Ireland, you do not have to go into (home) quarantine in the Netherlands. There is also no obligation to test before returning to the Netherlands. As a traveler from the Netherlands, you must be quarantined (at home) upon arrival in Ireland.

So good news for the return to the NL for myself, progress anyway.

Van.Bosch · 14-05-2021 01:26PM

yer man! wrote: »

Got a notification today from the Dutch government on their travel app for Ireland:

09:35 R Latest developments Last modified on: 14-05-2021 Still valid on: 14-05-2021 Latest developments travel advice Ireland From Saturday, May 15, after a stay in Ireland, you do not have to go into (home) quarantine in the Netherlands. There is also no obligation to test before returning to the Netherlands. As a traveler from the Netherlands, you must be quarantined (at home) upon arrival in Ireland.

So good news for the return to the NL for myself, progress anyway.

So Irish people could visit and not need even a test? Or is it just for Dutch residents?

Corholio · 14-05-2021 02:55PM

Wales have announced today that they are on board with the traffic light system with only a change in the test to release part, as they won't be doing that. Only Northern Ireland now that hasn't announced their firm plans for travel.

Boris holding conference later too on the Indian variant, hopefully that doesn't scupper it too much.

yer man! · 14-05-2021 03:15PM

Van.Bosch wrote: »

So Irish people could visit and not need even a test? Or is it just for Dutch residents?

Seems to imply no test and no quarantine for any traveller from Ireland to NL effective tomorrow. It's as clear as mud though.

Micky 32 · 14-05-2021 03:15PM

Corholio wrote: »

Boris holding conference later too on the Indian variant, hopefully that doesn't scupper it too much.

If he’s doing a conference you can be sure to expect bad news.

Corholio · 14-05-2021 03:34PM

yer man! wrote: »

Seems to imply no test and no quarantine for any traveller from Ireland to NL effective tomorrow. It's as clear as mud though.

I wonder if it's to do with the info on this page and Ireland just hasn't been added on there yet?

https://www.government.nl/topics/coronavirus-covid-19/visiting-the-netherlands-from-abroad/eu-list-of-safe-countries

Micky 32 · 14-05-2021 03:59PM

Dr Glynn on travel:

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.rte.ie/amp/1221650/

Ray Donovan · 14-05-2021 04:31PM

This is all hypothetical I know but just humour me.

Ireland enters into restriction free travel with UK in next 3 weeks. €2,000 travel fine remains for any other destination until introduction of EU travel cert. Whats to stop anyone getting the cheapest possible flight from Dublin to London, showing that boarding pass to the guard at the Terminal but actually hopping on the plane to the Canaries with a flight they have previously purchased.

Unthought Known · 14-05-2021 04:41PM

Ray Donovan wrote: »

This is all hypothetical I know but just humour me.

Ireland enters into restriction free travel with UK in next 3 weeks. €2,000 travel fine remains for any other destination until introduction of EU travel cert. Whats to stop anyone getting the cheapest possible flight from Dublin to London, showing that boarding pass to the guard at the Terminal but actually hopping on the plane to the Canaries with a flight they have previously purchased.

I'd say the airline will ask to see a selfie of you, the guard and the Canaries boarding pass before letting you on ðŸ˜

14-05-2021 04:49PM

M_Murphy57 wrote: »

Well if this their 3rd trip then in theory they couldve been fined by the gards for the 1st two, same as the rest of us.

We can all book a flight to New York and go to the airport. People just dont because of the fine.

The injustice of allowing inward travel whilst preventing outbound travel isnt really those lads fault either to be fair and if they are Irish they can come home if they want.

If the dont follow quarantine rules that's a whole other matter

Well no, going home to where you live is essential travel.

There's no law against entering the state.

So no, they couldn't have been fined.

14-05-2021 04:51PM

Ray Donovan wrote: »

This is all hypothetical I know but just humour me.

Ireland enters into restriction free travel with UK in next 3 weeks. €2,000 travel fine remains for any other destination until introduction of EU travel cert. Whats to stop anyone getting the cheapest possible flight from Dublin to London, showing that boarding pass to the guard at the Terminal but actually hopping on the plane to the Canaries with a flight they have previously purchased.

Nothing stopping you but your double booking would be considered suspicious

Van.Bosch · 14-05-2021 04:53PM

Ray Donovan wrote: »

This is all hypothetical I know but just humour me.

Ireland enters into restriction free travel with UK in next 3 weeks. €2,000 travel fine remains for any other destination until introduction of EU travel cert. Whats to stop anyone getting the cheapest possible flight from Dublin to London, showing that boarding pass to the guard at the Terminal but actually hopping on the plane to the Canaries with a flight they have previously purchased.

Same as now, but a ticket to Donegal or Kerry which are domestic travel.

Ray Donovan · 14-05-2021 05:08PM

Unthought Known wrote: »

I'd say the airline will ask to see a selfie of you, the guard and the Canaries boarding pass before letting you on ðŸ˜

Ha ha Excellent!!

Helpsos · 14-05-2021 05:21PM

Unthought Known wrote: »

I'd say the airline will ask to see a selfie of you, the guard and the Canaries boarding pass before letting you on ðŸ˜

Sounds reasonable haha !!

Corholio · 14-05-2021 05:23PM

'Italy to scrap mandatory quarantine for visitors from some countries

Italy will scrap mandatory quarantine from Sunday for visitors from the European Union, Britain and Israel who test negative for COVID-19, the government said on Friday as it looks to give summer tourism a boost'

brickster69 · 14-05-2021 05:24PM

With the way things are still going on the continent i cannot see much travel going out of the UK for the next couple of months.

hynesie08 · 14-05-2021 05:27PM

Ray Donovan wrote: »

This is all hypothetical I know but just humour me.

Ireland enters into restriction free travel with UK in next 3 weeks. €2,000 travel fine remains for any other destination until introduction of EU travel cert. Whats to stop anyone getting the cheapest possible flight from Dublin to London, showing that boarding pass to the guard at the Terminal but actually hopping on the plane to the Canaries with a flight they have previously purchased.

If you're not immediately flagged by buying 2 flights at the same time, you'd be marked when you scan your boarding pass at the gate.

saabsaab · 14-05-2021 05:31PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

The evidence is already showing the vaccines work against the indian scary wary bed wetting variant. The HCW’s in India that are vaccinated are not getting sick ( or if they are very mild symptoms) no serious illness.

The point is that many aren't vaccinated yet and consequently are dying of it. India is in a bad way and shows the need to vaccinate a critical mass before opening up.

M_Murphy57 · 14-05-2021 05:41PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

If you're not immediately flagged by buying 2 flights at the same time, you'd be marked when you scan your boarding pass at the gate.

Why would you not just scan one boarding pass for the love of God? The London one is to show to a gard before you go through. The tenerife one is the one youd actually scan.

Same story holding a boarding pass for a flight to donegal

"Youd be marked" ...honest to God! By who ?! How?!

Micky 32 · 14-05-2021 05:42PM

saabsaab wrote: »

The point is that many aren't vaccinated yet and consequently are dying of it. India is in a bad way and shows the need to vaccinate a critical mass before opening up.

Your point isn’t relevent to my argument regarding the point i was making with another poster. I was talking about the effectiveness of the vaccines against the current strains that they do work against. Two completely different things we are talking about. For some reason i feel you’re trying to win an argument against me by making a point about something else. Bizarre….

I’ll repeat i’m talking about the effectiveness of the vaccines not about the current spread situation or how many are vaccinated in India.

M_Murphy57 · 14-05-2021 05:43PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Your point isn’t relevent to my argument about the point i was making. I was talking about the vaccines against the current strains that they work against. Two completely different things we are talking about. For some reason i feel you’re trying to win an argument against me by making a point about something else. Bizarre….

You're arguing with a bot. Save your energy. The ignore button is your friend.

hynesie08 · 14-05-2021 05:49PM

M_Murphy57 wrote: »

Why would you not just scan one boarding pass for the love of God? The London one is to show to a gard before you go through. The tenerife one is the one youd actually scan.

Same story holding a boarding pass for a flight to donegal

"Youd be marked" ...honest to God! By who ?! How?!

You scan your boarding pass twice, once to get through to security, once at the gate, so in this hypothetical scenario you either scan 2 separate boarding passes or you scan one to a country with a fine.

saabsaab · 14-05-2021 05:53PM

Re 'the scariant'

Indian variant is a threat to relaxation of restrictions in the UK. We must try to stop its spread here. See below

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-over-50s-and-clinically-vulnerable-to-get-second-vaccine-dose-within-eight-weeks-12306413

Valhallapt · 14-05-2021 05:55PM

Ray Donovan wrote: »

This is all hypothetical I know but just humour me.

Ireland enters into restriction free travel with UK in next 3 weeks. €2,000 travel fine remains for any other destination until introduction of EU travel cert. Whats to stop anyone getting the cheapest possible flight from Dublin to London, showing that boarding pass to the guard at the Terminal but actually hopping on the plane to the Canaries with a flight they have previously purchased.

Exactly this, that’s why I think they’ll drop the 2k fine as soon as they open up the UK, otherwise it’ll be unworkable.

I think we’re going the same way as wales, travel is legal again but please don’t be going on holidays.....

Micky 32 · 14-05-2021 05:58PM

saabsaab wrote: »

Re 'the scariant'

Indian variant is a threat to relaxation of restrictions in the UK. We must try to stop its spread here. See below

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-over-50s-and-clinically-vulnerable-to-get-second-vaccine-dose-within-eight-weeks-12306413

The important part of the article :

“However, he did say there was "no evidence" to suggest the vaccines currently in use would be less effective against the B.1.617.2 strain.“

CruelSummer · 14-05-2021 06:01PM

saabsaab wrote: »

Re 'the scariant'

Indian variant is a threat to relaxation of restrictions in the UK. We must try to stop its spread here. See below

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-over-50s-and-clinically-vulnerable-to-get-second-vaccine-dose-within-eight-weeks-12306413

Might I just add, I’ve watched the U.K. press conference. It seems they’re going to try and break the chains of transmission by vaccinating high numbers where the Indian variant is spreading. They’re also continuing with reopening on Monday. US have also announced they’re dropping mask wearing for fully vaccinated people. So all in all, it seems if vaccination numbers are high, the Indian variant won’t get a chance to cause too many issues. EU need to continue their programme as quickly as possible.

saabsaab · 14-05-2021 06:08PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Might I just add, I’ve watched the U.K. press conference. It seems they’re going to try and break the chains of transmission by vaccinating high numbers where the Indian variant is spreading. They’re also continuing with reopening on Monday. US have also announced they’re dropping mask wearing for fully vaccinated people. So all in all, it seems if vaccination numbers are high, the Indian variant won’t get a chance to cause too many issues. EU need to continue their programme as quickly as possible.

That is the key in bold above.

Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

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