What whisk(e)y are we drinking? (Part 2)

BonnieSituation · 05-05-2021 11:01am #1

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The Inbetween is mine · 05-05-2021 11:24am

BonnieSituation wrote: »

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Drinking?

FileNotFound · 05-05-2021 11:54am

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

Drinking?

Or Suffering from said Drinking

barsan · 05-05-2021 7:49pm

Hi

Really enjoy the posts here , Just to let you know there is an auction by Fonsie Mealy on 18th May at 10.30 am , its the contents of Killoughter House, Ashford, County Wicklow, Ireland - They have 27 Lots of various whiskeys and wines which maybe of interest to some of the posters here

Sorry i dont know how to post the web link

Cazale · 05-05-2021 8:58pm

barsan wrote: »

Hi

Really enjoy the posts here , Just to let you know there is an auction by Fonsie Mealy on 18th May at 10.30 am , its the contents of Killoughter House, Ashford, County Wicklow, Ireland - They have 27 Lots of various whiskeys and wines which maybe of interest to some of the posters here

Sorry i dont know how to post the web link

Nice spot. Link below. I like the old school bottles in the attached picture. A lot of Cooley whiskey.

https://www.fonsiemealy.ie/catalogue/B08650D71DD10446ECF992795B7A4153/315A4C4BD46AD07A88E43DAF24E1E6BF/killoughter-house-ashford-county-wicklow-ireland/?currentPageNo=3

BonnieSituations username choice is actually an interesting story. All I'll say is expect a bid for those Two Ladies Dressage Hats from him.

killbillvol2 · 05-05-2021 11:44pm

Cazale wrote: »

Nice spot. Link below. I like the old school bottles in the attached picture. A lot of Cooley whiskey.

https://www.fonsiemealy.ie/catalogue/B08650D71DD10446ECF992795B7A4153/315A4C4BD46AD07A88E43DAF24E1E6BF/killoughter-house-ashford-county-wicklow-ireland/?currentPageNo=3

BonnieSituations username choice is actually an interesting story. All I'll say is expect a bid for those Two Ladies Dressage Hats from him.

Some nice whiskeys there. And I've always wanted a samovar!

DeniG2 · 06-05-2021 9:21am

What's the consensus on Glenmorangie Original 10 year old? I drank it last weekend and was very disappointed, tasted cheap and burnt the throat off me. I've tried all types of Irish and Scotch from cheap to expensive, and was expecting good things from Glenmoranie 10yo, is there any chance there is such a thing as a bad bottle in the batch?

Starlord_01 · 06-05-2021 1:21pm

Finally got the keys for our first home last Thursday - tonight is the night I crack open the MVR 2021!

Beanstalk · 06-05-2021 3:21pm

Bought a Highland Park Dragon Honour in Tesco NI recently reduced to £24. it was £70 to start with last year, then went to £40, which is ridiculous for a whiskey that claims to be richer and smokier than the normal 12 year old and is neither. I mean its fine but its all marketing nonsense with them. The taste is all front end with absolutely no finish which i also found disappointing. ill come back to it in a few weeks and see what its like then.

irish_goat · 06-05-2021 4:16pm

Beanstalk wrote: »

Bought a Highland Park Dragon Honour in Tesco NI recently reduced to £24. it was £70 to start with last year, then went to £40, which is ridiculous for a whiskey that claims to be richer and smokier than the normal 12 year old and is neither. I mean its fine but its all marketing nonsense with them. The taste is all front end with absolutely no finish which i also found disappointing. ill come back to it in a few weeks and see what its like then.

I am becoming quite skeptical of some the cheaper scotch that appears in the likes of Tesco and Sainsburys. There's quite a lot of non-age statement stuff appearing at seemingly good prices but when you check the reviews they're not always too great.

odyssey06 · 06-05-2021 4:21pm

irish_goat wrote: »

I am becoming quite skeptical of some the cheaper scotch that appears in the likes of Tesco and Sainsburys. There's quite a lot of non-age statement stuff appearing at seemingly good prices but when you check the reviews they're not always too great.

Guessing it's stuff that was intended to be sold in airport travel retail.

odyssey06 · 06-05-2021 4:22pm

Saw this ad online and thought it might raise a laugh on this thread...

Beanstalk · 06-05-2021 4:53pm

irish_goat wrote: »

I am becoming quite skeptical of some the cheaper scotch that appears in the likes of Tesco and Sainsburys. There's quite a lot of non-age statement stuff appearing at seemingly good prices but when you check the reviews they're not always too great.

Yeah for sure. i got stung alright but some of them are very good value. I really like the Bunnahabhain Striurdear for £25 in Sainsbury's. While its not near the 12 for £15 less its a bargain.

odyssey06 · 06-05-2021 5:12pm

Interesting Bushmills promo in the States...
Bushmills has teamed up with NBA team the Boston Celtics for a new partnership that will last through the 2023 season and see the brand creating a series of activations and contests tailored to the team alongside custom TV spots. To celebrate the beginning of the partnership, Bushmills is offering to buy Massachusetts-based Celtics fans a whiskey. Through July 31, 2021, fans can purchase a Bushmills from a local bar or restaurant, upload their receipt to Bushmills’ website, and receive up to $6 back via Venmo, PayPal, or Amazon.

Cazale · 06-05-2021 10:46pm

Got another present of whiskey tonight. 12 year old Bushmill stock. I've had a few glasses of the Quiet man blend before and wasn't overly keen but I'll give this a good spin when I open it.

athlone573 · 06-05-2021 10:49pm

DeniG2 wrote: »

What's the consensus on Glenmorangie Original 10 year old? I drank it last weekend and was very disappointed, tasted cheap and burnt the throat off me. I've tried all types of Irish and Scotch from cheap to expensive, and was expecting good things from Glenmoranie 10yo, is there any chance there is such a thing as a bad bottle in the batch?

It's a few years since I've drank it but I remember it as grand but a bit thin, not dissimilar to Jameson Crested but not as sweet.

picachu · 06-05-2021 11:35pm

Hi Guys,

I've never tried a nosing glass before. Teeling are selling them for a fiver a go. Would they hold the same amount of whiskey as a glencairn?

Really liked my Glenmorangie 10 btw. Didnt last too long.

newbie runner · 07-05-2021 12:07am

Had a few drops of Powers Johns Lane ( new bottle) tonight. Really enjoyed it,as a change from sinlgle malts.Has anyone opinion on how it relates to older discontinued bottle?

ZV Yoda · 07-05-2021 6:31am

Following on from the post on the other thread about peated Irish whiskeys, I picked up a bottle of Teelings Blackpitts last night. Wasn’t impressed at all. I’m a big fan of Connemara, but the Teelings is very bland. It’s not Lagavulin, that’s for sure.

I’ve yet to taste a Teelings I liked.

L1011 · 07-05-2021 9:23am

newbie runner wrote: »

Had a few drops of Powers Johns Lane ( new bottle) tonight. Really enjoyed it,as a change from sinlgle malts.Has anyone opinion on how it relates to older discontinued bottle?

There is no indication that the product changed when the bottle shape changed.

RobMc59 · 07-05-2021 9:27am

I was very partial to Glenmorangie and they do a special aged in bourbon barrels which is worth a try.

Black Sheep · 07-05-2021 9:52am

DeniG2 wrote: »

What's the consensus on Glenmorangie Original 10 year old? I drank it last weekend and was very disappointed, tasted cheap and burnt the throat off me. I've tried all types of Irish and Scotch from cheap to expensive, and was expecting good things from Glenmoranie 10yo, is there any chance there is such a thing as a bad bottle in the batch?

Glenmorangie 10 is usually very well reviewed and would be considered a bit of a classic. It's very delicate, however, and I find that if you drink it after eating - particularly something very sweet or that will have covered your taste buds - you won't be able to taste much of anything out of it. It's as delicate as something like an Auchentoshan.

Best to approach it not having eaten, or just taken water, and then see how you get on. But it's quite subtle and floral at the best of times. I have a 2020 bottle and it's perhaps not as good as years past but it is what it is. Something like the Nectar d'Or or other sherry or port finished whiskies are Glenmorangie's forte think.

It's only 40% ABV so it shouldn't burn your throat under any circumstances, really. I would personally not add water at all at that ABV.

Black Sheep · 07-05-2021 9:57am

On the "British supermarket whiskies" thing, I have been known to stop off in Tesco in Enniskillen when passing through and would agree there is a lot of dross on the shelves...

A few that I think are worth a look, but I think ideally you want to get them it's their turn to be on sale...

Laphroaig 10 (Goes without saying, a timeless classic)
Talisker 10 (Again, a classic in my book)
Dalwhinnie 15
Glenmorangie 10
Bowmore 12

I've also heard good things about the Maccallan Gold, the Glenlivet 12 2020-2021 and as mentioned the Bunnabhain Stiureadair (Can't be bothered to check the spelling).

Buffalo Trace seems to be generally good value on NI shelves. It's a fine bourbon to sip as well as mix, especially for the money.

Effects · 07-05-2021 11:42am

picachu wrote: »

Hi Guys,

I've never tried a nosing glass before. Teeling are selling them for a fiver a go. Would they hold the same amount of whiskey as a glencairn?

Really liked my Glenmorangie 10 btw. Didnt last too long.

I like them, as they are a bit smaller, and you don't need to put as much whiskey into them.

Beanstalk · 07-05-2021 11:51am

I like the nosing (snifter) glasses but they are very delicate. I bought a few in Porto recently for holding port and 3 out of 4 have broken sadly. Its just handy to grab as well.

DeniG2 · 07-05-2021 12:23pm

Black Sheep wrote: »

Glenmorangie 10 is usually very well reviewed and would be considered a bit of a classic. It's very delicate, however, and I find that if you drink it after eating - particularly something very sweet or that will have covered your taste buds - you won't be able to taste much of anything out of it. It's as delicate as something like an Auchentoshan.

Best to approach it not having eaten, or just taken water, and then see how you get on. But it's quite subtle and floral at the best of times. I have a 2020 bottle and it's perhaps not as good as years past but it is what it is. Something like the Nectar d'Or or other sherry or port finished whiskies are Glenmorangie's forte think.

It's only 40% ABV so it shouldn't burn your throat under any circumstances, really. I would personally not add water at all at that ABV.

I did drink it after eating a meal but that’s normal for me, I had it neat, no ice or water. Compared to the likes of The Glenlivet 12 (or 15), Glenfiddich 12 or Talisker 10, it was like petrol, that’s why I was thinking it was a bad bottle because it gets good reviews, although one review on MasterOfMalt did find it the same as I did. Anyway, it’ll be perfect for hot whiskeys

Black Sheep · 07-05-2021 12:36pm

Yes, to be honest that sounds very strange. If you're pretty familiar with whisky and have a bit of a palate then the complaint normally might be that Glemorangie 10 lacks punch and just tastes of very little, compared to something like a Talisker 10, not that it is like petrol or whatever.

I have never gotten a bottle of whisky that was compromised or off in some way, but it would certainly be worth looking into if it is that bad. There are counterfeit bottles of spirits going around in the pub trade but doubt that's a possibility here.

DeniG2 · 07-05-2021 1:07pm

Petrol might be too strong a word but it’s very harsh, so you could be right in saying that I’ve just got used to smoother whiskeys. It reminded me of cheaper blended scotch in the €20 range, maybe I was also expecting a bit more because of the name. I might try the Quinta Ruban 14 and see if that’s more to my taste

FileNotFound · 07-05-2021 1:13pm

Beanstalk wrote: »

I like the nosing (snifter) glasses but they are very delicate. I bought a few in Porto recently for holding port and 3 out of 4 have broken sadly. Its just handy to grab as well.

I did waste some money on the waterford crytsal version of the Glencairn glasses.
Have to say they are good and solid and are nice to drink from.

I use them all the time now - mind you any difference in quality could be me in my own head haha

They do cost a good bit for 2 of them but they will last unless i actually drop and smash one.

Black Sheep · 07-05-2021 1:33pm

DeniG2 wrote: »

Petrol might be too strong a word but it’s very harsh, so you could be right in saying that I’ve just got used to smoother whiskeys. It reminded me of cheaper blended scotch in the €20 range, maybe I was also expecting a bit more because of the name. I might try the Quinta Ruban 14 and see if that’s more to my taste

Yes, try the Quinta Ruba.

Glenmorangie 10 definitely isn't considered a harsh whisky by almost any measure, if anything it's too delicate / refined for some people's taste. Is something amiss I wonder.

Black Sheep · 07-05-2021 1:37pm

FileNotFound wrote: »

I did waste some money on the waterford crytsal version of the Glencairn glasses.
Have to say they are good and solid and are nice to drink from.

I use them all the time now - mind you any difference in quality could be me in my own head haha

They do cost a good bit for 2 of them but they will last unless i actually drop and smash one.

I have collected some expensive whisky glasses over the years, from Baccarat, and they are so thick at the base that one survived a drop from a decent height! Not that I would recommend it. The glass thins out wonderfully approaching the lip. They're more your typical low whisky glass in form than a snifter, however.

I had Glencairn pattern snifters and they have all broken one by one, sometimes just from handwashing.

I have a couple of nice enough glasses from J Hill also, but Baccarat are in a class of their own.

At the end of the day you can drink whisky out of a lot of cheap glasses and it's totally fine, but there's something nice about having even two good heavyweight options that feel good in the hand and on the eye.

odyssey06 · 07-05-2021 1:42pm

I have a 'mini' glencairn glass, I use it for the virtual tastings.
The small measures from L Mulligans don't look quite so lost in it

Otherwise, I have a wine tasting glass which looks not that far off the Teelings one linked which I use for wine and spirits.
It would be the 'copita' version.
I got a couple free at an O'Briens wine fair a few years ago.

Black Sheep · 07-05-2021 2:40pm

Can't beat wine glasses for most things, in fairness, beer too.

Can't say I've drank whisky from a wine glass, even though objectively would make more sense than some of the glasses I have used.

Beanstalk · 07-05-2021 3:10pm

I remember once, many moons ago, drinking wine out of a glass then taking a notion and pouring in Bailey's without washing the glass once i'd drained the wine. it wasn't pretty, but pretty hilarious at the time.

conor678 · 07-05-2021 7:25pm

Am sipping Laugavilin 16 tonight. It's a very delicious and almost fruity islay. Never had it before and had a bottle knocking about unopened since Christmas. Definitely one of the islays I will buy again even if it is a tad on the more premium price range.

Cazale · 07-05-2021 7:50pm

Episode Seven of Three Drams has been announced.

Dram 1 - Tipperary Homegrown Barley Single Malt (50%)
Dram 2 - Killowen Signature Rum & Raisin 5 Year Old Single Malt (55%)
Dram 3 - Red Earl Cask Strength (65.45%)

Can really recommend joining as it's a great way to try new Irish whiskey. Previous months samples below to give an idea.

Dram 1: Killarney 8 Year Old Inaugural Release
Dram 2: Dingle Single Malt
Dram 3: Thomond Gate (To be announced)

Dram 1: Teeling Renaissance Series 3 Single Malt
Dram 2: Kilbeggan Single Pot Still
Dram 3: Bushmills Caribbean Rum Cask Finish

Dram 1: Samuel Gelston’s Single Pot Still Pinot Noir
Dram 2: Sailor’s Home The Hozizon 10 Year Old
Dram 3: W.D. O’Connell Bill Phil Batch 2

Dram 1: Fercullen 8-Year-Old Blended
Dram 2: The Irishman Cask Strength 2020 Single Malt
Dram 3: The Whistler Mosaic Marsala Finish Single Grain

Dram 1: Spade & Bushel 14-Year-Old Marsala Finish Single Malt
Dram 2: Currach Single Malt Founders Wakame Cask Strength Release
Dram 3: Two Stacks Smoke & Mirrors Peated Stout Cask

Dram 1: Dingle Fourth Single Pot Still Release
Dram 2: Bushmills 2008 The Muscatel Cask
Dram 3: Teeling Blackpitts Peated Single Malt

Hogzy · 07-05-2021 8:45pm

I was wondering why the other thread went so quiet. Havnt checked-in in a while.

Whats the craic with this Dunvilles in the Palace Bar? Its a green bottle. Anyone know if its going on sale or what?

Cazale · 07-05-2021 9:18pm

Hogzy wrote: »

I was wondering why the other thread went so quiet. Havnt checked-in in a while.

Whats the craic with this Dunvilles in the Palace Bar? Its a green bottle. Anyone know if its going on sale or what?

Welcome back! No date yet from what I can see. Some details below.

20-year-old Single Malt Irish whiskey finished in an Oloroso sherry cask for a year. Bottled at cask strength of 55% ABV and limited to just 341 bottles. Available from The Palace Bar website and retail partners priced €350.

Deagol · 07-05-2021 10:31pm

Anyone here drunk MVR 2019? Have managed to get my hands on a few bottles. Thinking of auctioning a 2/3 off to buy a MVR2020 but will probably keep the other 3/4 for drinking but only if it's actually any good!

ctlsleh · 08-05-2021 12:17am

Deagol wrote: »

Anyone here drunk MVR 2019? Have managed to get my hands on a few bottles. Thinking of auctioning a 2/3 off to buy a MVR2020 but will probably keep the other 3/4 for drinking but only if it's actually any good!

Is there a bad MVR…..?……:)

FileNotFound · 08-05-2021 1:27am

Deagol wrote: »

Anyone here drunk MVR 2019? Have managed to get my hands on a few bottles. Thinking of auctioning a 2/3 off to buy a MVR2020 but will probably keep the other 3/4 for drinking but only if it's actually any good!

Yup found it very mediocre to be honest.

Not bad, just not great.

2016 was the last one I really liked. Didn't get 2020 or 2021 mind.

Why in goodness name would you waste so much on multiple mvr, auction sites are loaded with 2019, sure its popped back up in off licences a good few times even recently.

the beer revolu · 08-05-2021 8:57am

FileNotFound wrote: »

Yup found it very mediocre to be honest.

Not bad, just not great.

2016 was the last one I really liked. Didn't get 2020 or 2021 mind.

Why in goodness name would you waste so much on multiple mvr, auction sites are loaded with 2019, sure its popped back up in off licences a good few times even recently.

Middleton Fever.
It's been going around this last year.
No cure, apparently.

ZV Yoda · 08-05-2021 4:51pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

Middleton Fever.
It's been going around this last year.
No cure, apparently.

Bushmills 21 is the cure.

awec · 08-05-2021 8:29pm

Redbreast Cask Strength tonight.

It's nice, but not sure I'm a big fan of cask strength.

ctlsleh · 08-05-2021 10:01pm

ZV Yoda wrote: »

Bushmills 21 is the cure.

RB21 even…….:)

tyler71 · 09-05-2021 12:07am

awec wrote: »

Redbreast Cask Strength tonight.

It's nice, but not sure I'm a big fan of cask strength.

Add a few drops of water. The great thing about cask strength is you can choose your favourite strength rather than having it chosen it for you. Add a drop, taste, add again until you're happy. Add too much, and damn it you're just going to have to finish that dram and have another one.

Shaka Hislop · 09-05-2021 12:09am

awec wrote: »

Redbreast Cask Strength tonight.

It's nice, but not sure I'm a big fan of cask strength.

Hush your mouth

Add a drop of water to it, might help for you.
I love it neat, think it's very drinkable that way...
but I have a bottle of 1792 full proof bourbon, Jim Murray's whiskey bible winner a few years ago...and it's absolute muck....
I actually threw a couple of shots into a Starbucks iced mocca to see would that help..and nope...made a bad coffee worse.

Zebrano · 09-05-2021 12:26am

RB21 And RB CS tonight.
Both good but very different.
I think the CS is the winner.

Technophobe · 09-05-2021 12:54am

Knappogue Castle Marsala cask finish tonight after a starter of Black Bush..
Gives me an instant rum vibe first; moreso than some rum cask finish one's like say the Caribbean Rum Cask finish of Bushmills for example.

Then I'm getting a port type taste which I suppose isn't miles away from Marsala ( apparently)
Not one for me to drink a few of them consecutively, but a nice one to throw into a mixed night

Cazale · 09-05-2021 9:58am

tyler71 wrote:

Add a few drops of water. The great thing about cask strength is you can choose your favourite strength rather than having it chosen it for you. Add a drop, taste, add again until you're happy. Add too much, and damn it you're just going to have to finish that dram and have another one.

If you add too much water just add more whiskey.

BonnieSituation · 09-05-2021 3:33pm

Cazale wrote: »

If you add too much water just add more whiskey.

That's on the Cazale Coat of Arms?

What whisk(e)y are we drinking? (Part 2)

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