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Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

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  • #5312
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,104 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Mecrab wrote: »
    Will I still be able to get 4 cans of pratsky for a 5er?

    No you won't

    €1.66 a can so €6.63 for a 4 pack


  • #5313
    Garibaldi?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Garibaldi?


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    1st January 2022 apparently for MUP
    Time to start brewing your own folks! Should be nicely matured by then!:D


  • #5314
    thomas 123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    Of all the problems we have in this country ...

    Gambling ads rammed down our throats on RTE, now I can’t even pre drink thinking I got a bit of value on my slab once a year.


  • #5315
    FileNotFound
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    No you won't

    €1.66 a can so €6.63 for a 4 pack

    And that will be round up to a clean 7.00 just for good measure. So a 40% increase in your cost.


  • #5316
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,696 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »
    So what is it?

    I don't know.

    But I certainly don't think it's down to a relatively tiny special interest group pulling the strings of all the major parties.

    This was put forth by FG as a measure to appease publican pressure to get people to stop drinking at home and into pubs more. Over the years it then became a "health" issue, but we all know that's baloney and just a smoke screen. And I also think that there will be an increase in duty on alcohol in the near future too, as part of the MUP scam. Maybe not in the next budget, but in one soon after.

    But like everything else that happens in Ireland, I suspect that this measure will probably come down to a desired financial outcome.


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  • #5317
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,367 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    I disagree, the "drinking problems" are myths from the government.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's common sense. If Joe Soap has access to alcohol and drugs, and suddenly the price of one of those products increases, the alternative looks a lot more appealing.

    Personally, I don't really drink (about a can a month if you averaged it out across a year) and I've never touched drugs in any form. However, I can still see the obvious transition from one to the other that many people will make. Especially those in their teens who can now get off their tits for a fraction of the price than alcohol.

    Drug use is widely accepted in Irish society, despite the damage it does. People will turn to it fairly fast, in my opinion.

    That's not what the research into the post-Scottish introduction I linked says. so it isn't common sense. The vast majority of people who drink have no interest in drugs. People who do use drugs as a substitute are already using anyway - they might do some more but that's not the same as suggesting widespread replacement.

    Someone who drinks a bottle of wine every night won't suddenly turn to drugs as an alternative.


  • #5318
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Tony EH wrote: »
    I don't know.

    But I certainly don't think it's down to a relatively tiny special interest group pulling the strings of all the major parties.

    This was put forth by FG as a measure to appease publican pressure to get people to stop drinking at home and into pubs more. Over the years it then became a "health" issue, but we all know that's baloney and just a smoke screen. And I also think that there will be an increase in duty on alcohol in the near future too, as part of the MUP scam. Maybe not in the next budget, but in one soon after.

    But like everything else that happens in Ireland, I suspect that this measure will probably come down to a desired financial outcome.

    That is very true, though they do have an influence.

    Can see Feank Feighnan has come out very on the side of this on Twitter. It won't go well for him.


  • #5319
    Economics101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,461 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Tony EH wrote: »

    This was put forth by FG as a measure to appease publican pressure to get people to stop drinking at home and into pubs more. /QUOTE]

    'Twas ever thus, the power of the publicans over politicians in Ireland


  • #5320
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,697 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    1st January 2022 apparently for MUP

    Christ Nov/Dec this year in the supermarkets will be chaos


  • #5321
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,696 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »
    That is very true, though they do have an influence.

    Which would be rather negligible, I believe.

    No, I think the people responsible for policy are, more than likely, desirous of it for reasons other than the appeasement of a very small organisation that few people have even heard of.


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  • #5322
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Economics101 wrote: »
    'Twas ever thus, the power of the publicans over politicians in Ireland


    And it will spectacularly backfire when those who had x amount of money to spend at the pub will now have less and so will be more likely to stay at home instead.


  • #5323
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Which would be rather negligible, I believe.

    No, I think the people responsible for policy are, more than likely, desirous of it for reasons other than the appeasement of a very small organisation that few people have even heard of.

    The Vitners Association?? :-)


  • #5324
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,696 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »
    The Vitners Association?? :-)

    No.
    ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »
    Alcohol Action Ireland


  • #5325
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,697 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Pre drinking will still happen esp for Students

    Let's hope proper pub hours will be back by the time this farce comes in


  • #5326
    goose2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    the Irish Times articles are shockingly propagandistic, no attempt at balance.


  • #5327
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,104 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Christ Nov/Dec this year in the supermarkets will be chaos

    Good

    I'll certainly be stocking up well before the new year

    I'm still going to do my holiday to the north this year and it will just so happen to coincide with a 25% off 6 bottles of wine offer


  • #5328
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,104 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Funny when Alcohol Action Ireland are thanking Frank Feighan on his twitter

    Shops in his locality won't be thanking him when trips north of the border increase next year


  • #5329
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,330 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Tony EH wrote: »
    No.


    The Vintners were the original brainchild of this as evidenced by FGs 2011 manifesto but the likes of AAI, the college of physicians and the other orwellian control freaks jumped aboard with gusto when it was realised they needed to pivot this to being a health issue.


  • #5330
    buried
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭buried


    This country badly needs somebody in the journalistic profession to step up to to plate and investigate exactly what is going on in these NGO's such as the likes of 'Alcohol Action Ireland'. Why these NGO's exist, and for what reason are the Irish government continuously funding the AAI when alcohol consumption has, year on year, fallen for the last 20 years.

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • #5331
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,696 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    VinLieger wrote: »
    The Vintners were the original brainchild of this as evidenced by FGs 2011 manifesto but the likes of AAI, the college of physicians and the other orwellian control freaks jumped aboard with gusto when it was realised they needed to pivot this to being a health issue.

    Which we know is bollocks.

    So what's really behind it.


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  • #5332
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,129 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Which we know is bollocks.

    So what's really behind it.

    the vintners.


  • #5333
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Crazy how this is getting through, dribs and drabs so people won't notice till it's too late.


  • #5334
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,696 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Crazy how this is getting through, dribs and drabs so people won't notice till it's too late.

    Well, like most things in this country, they'll pay attention when it hits them in the pocket.


  • #5335
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,190 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Is there a list of all VFI members anywhere? I want to know which ones to avoid when the pubs re-open.


  • #5336
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,330 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Is there a list of all VFI members anywhere? I want to know which ones to avoid when the pubs re-open.

    There's 2 groups, the LVA are solely in Dublin and the VFI are everywhere else. As far as I know your either a member of one or the other.

    Both lobbied for this.


  • #5337
    Phil.x
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    VinLieger wrote: »
    There's 2 groups, the LVA are solely in Dublin and the VFI are everywhere else. As far as I know your either a member of one or the other.

    Both lobbied for this.

    Shower of c1nts.


  • #5338
    kenmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭kenmc


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    And it will spectacularly backfire when those who had x amount of money to spend at the pub will now have less and so will be more likely to stay at home instead.
    If only enough people had the self control to boycott all the pubs for a month when they reopen in June, and let it be known why, there'd be some backtracking on this utter sham.

    More chance of pigs flying


  • #5339
    MayoSalmon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Well, like most things in this country, they'll pay attention when it hits them in the pocket.

    No they won't..carbon tax, USC, Sugar tax...the Irish just take it up the jammer and carry on.


  • #5340
    Sadler Peak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭Sadler Peak


    Making Supermarkets more money.

    Well done Ireland.

    And PBP vote for this.


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  • #5341
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    If you voted for FF FG Greens SF SD Lab PBP etc you can have no complaints.

    These clowns think they can run your life better than you can.

    If the country continues to vote for these megalomaniacs don't be surprised as they decide more and more what you can and can't do.


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